njbuff Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: But scapegoating immigrants doesn't disgust you? Immigrants commit less crime than Native born residents. Maybe the Democrats should invite the Trump supporter that sent bombs to people through the mail, to, you know, show what criminals Trump supporters are. Eat sh it You are beyond stupid. You just don't get it or you simply don't want to get it. Typical Democrat.
Hedge Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 47 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The problem is, no one takes the time to do that. Especially if you've (the general "you" not specific you) already decided that Trump is Satan and Hitler's off spring. I wonder what poor baker was forced to bake the cake for that union. 1
plenzmd1 Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 @Foxx , thank you for posting those videos. I see the one was a Breitbart youtube..not saying accurate or not as I have to run and I have not watched, but I wanted to acknowledge the post! 1 1
Foxx Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: @Foxx , thank you for posting those videos. I see the one was a Breitbart youtube..not saying accurate or not as I have to run and I have not watched, but I wanted to acknowledge the post! apologies for the Breibart one, but it was video of the angelmoms, shooting the messenger is not always the best approach. here is one to replace the Breitbart video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IvlJecisWM Edited February 1, 2019 by Foxx
keepthefaith Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 38 minutes ago, Tiberius said: But scapegoating immigrants doesn't disgust you? Immigrants commit less crime than Native born residents. Maybe the Democrats should invite the Trump supporter that sent bombs to people through the mail, to, you know, show what criminals Trump supporters are. Eat sh it You can find research supporting both sides of the argument regarding crimes committed by ILLEGAL immigrants. For sure though, 100% of crimes committed by illegal immigrants in this country were avoidable, and crimes committed by illegal immigrants often victimize Americans and cost taxpayers A LOT of money and that expense is also avoidable. Citizens don't want to experience crimes by people who should not be here and they also don't want to pay the bill that comes with it.
boyst Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Rob's House said: I'm not holding Breitbart up as an unvarnished bastian of objective truth, and even noted that they have a clear bias, but I don't see any evidence of them reporting blatant falsehoods or being less reliable than most other "news" outlets. Ironically, the article you linked is fake news. All I had to do was read it & the cited articles to see that. The only objective facts alleged were that Bannon pushed for heavy coverage of Roy Moore and said the msm was trying to tank Trump. Everything else was conjecture and there were no quotes or citations to support the headline. Interestingly, all the cited articles were from CNN. @Deranged Rhino and you both are wasting your time
Tiberius Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: You can find research supporting both sides of the argument regarding crimes committed by ILLEGAL immigrants. For sure though, 100% of crimes committed by illegal immigrants in this country were avoidable, and crimes committed by illegal immigrants often victimize Americans and cost taxpayers A LOT of money and that expense is also avoidable. Citizens don't want to experience crimes by people who should not be here and they also don't want to pay the bill that comes with it. Actually people just don't want crime, no matter who commits it, singling out one group as being the problem is wrong and it is scapegoating which is hateful and dangerous. And if truely reducing crime was a Conservative goal, then I'm sure we would see more support for social services for the needy and mentally ill, for better and more well funded agencies to care for children neglected and mistreated and more youth services and trainings to get to the young people that don't have strong connections to any community. Join us in building a better society, not walks. You think China is wasting money on walls these days? 54 minutes ago, Foxx said: you are completely and entirely off your rocker, Tibs. what in the *****ity ***** does the rate at which Americans commit crimes have to do with the rate of crimes committed by people who have absolutely no legal right to be in this country in the first place? has your mind atrophied that much from the progressive poisoning? The point is, crime because of immigrants isn't the biggest problem we face at all. Isn't illegal immigrantion way down anyway?
keepthefaith Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: And if truely reducing crime was a Conservative goal, then I'm sure we would see more support for social services for the needy and mentally ill Please define "mentally ill"
/dev/null Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Please define "mentally ill" Not voting for Democrats
row_33 Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 40 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Please define "mentally ill" Tiberius That was easy
DC Tom Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 2 hours ago, keepthefaith said: Please define "mentally ill" Eligible for abortion after birth.
row_33 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: Eligible for abortion after birth. The polls suggest this truth isn’t good so we choose to muddle it in weasel words
DC Tom Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: The polls suggest this truth isn’t good so we choose to muddle it in weasel words Sorry... Eligible to remain comfortable while abortion after birth is discussed.
row_33 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: Sorry... Eligible to remain comfortable while abortion after birth is discussed. I accept that a lot of people don’t care at all about anything but themselves but many do have a conscience
Doc Brown Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Do you actually believe that? I'd like to see the polling question that ilicited that response. There's a difference between a 2000 mile 30' high concrete wall and 250 miles of strategically placed fencing to funnel border jumpers into better controlled areas. Here's five national polls and the actual question. All have similar results. Do you favor or oppose building a wall along the US-Mexico border? 43% favor, 51% oppose. Fox News poll 1/23/19 Do you support or oppose building a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico? 42 support, 54% oppose. ABC News poll 1/13/19 Do you support or oppose building a wall along the border with Mexico? 41% support, 55% oppose. Quinnipiac poll 1/29/19 Do you think building a wall is necessary to effectively secure the U.S–Mexico border from illegalimmigration, or do you think the U.S.-Mexico border can be secured without building a wall? 37% - Wall is necessary. 61% - Border can be secure without a wall CBS News poll 1/23/19 Here's a comparison between 2006 and 2019. Obviously, Independents were the only consistent respondents. Wall Street Journal/NBC poll Jan. 20th Edited February 2, 2019 by Doc Brown
Q-baby! Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 5 hours ago, keepthefaith said: Please define "mentally ill" Your President.
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Here's five national polls and the actual question. All have similar results. Do you favor or oppose building a wall along the US-Mexico border? 43% favor, 51% oppose. Fox News poll 1/23/19 Do you support or oppose building a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico? 42 support, 54% oppose. ABC News poll 1/13/19 Do you support or oppose building a wall along the border with Mexico? 41% support, 55% oppose. Quinnipiac poll 1/29/19 Do you think building a wall is necessary to effectively secure the U.S–Mexico border from illegalimmigration, or do you think the U.S.-Mexico border can be secured without building a wall? 37% - Wall is necessary. 61% - Border can be secure without a wall CBS News poll 1/23/19 Here's a comparison between 2006 and 2019. Obviously, Independents were the only consistent respondents. Wall Street Journal/NBC poll Jan. 20th I wonder what Trump's poll numbers would be with an even semi-honest press? Those "national polls" are interesting. The Fox poll was during the shutdown (Jan 20-22). The "top priority" for the wall grew 12%, but "quit/resign" grew 5% too. SMH. They also asked if people were better off than a year prior, most were, but the country was worse off?!? (well, maybe due to the shutdown?) 24% Thought it was a good thing to move away from capitalism and toward socialism!? WTF were these 1000 people surveyed!?!?! The ABC Poll was also done during the shutdown (Jan 8-11). About half the people surveyed think the border is a crisis... among the people who do not want a wall, 48% see it as a serious problem. What in the world do they expect to hold back people from crossing into the United States illegally? Fairy dust and unicorns!? This poll has the shift for a wall at +11 for independents from one year prior. 788 people surveyed, 31% D, 26% R, 39% I. The CBS poll (also during the shutdown (Jan 18-21)) is really screwy... The answers make little sense.... the shutdown isn't worth wall funding, but the Democrats should give wall funding in the budget!? Weighted respondents 277 R (22%) 349 D, (31%), 476 I (43%) The link to the Quinnipiac poll did not work. I wonder if there is a way to get a better sample size? 1K people with Rs under-represented isn't going to give a great representation of the American public's views, especially with slanted push or pull questions. I know internal polls generally do a better job (less of a push or a pull), but no one ever seems to get that data except the person paying.
row_33 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Conservatives have learned to not give their opinions unless it’s worth money or one is among friends who blabs their mouth off to polls? Is Hillary still 17 points ahead? 1
Deranged Rhino Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 The baiting going on is tremendous to see. He doesn't need to declare a national emergency to build the wall or get the funds. This is a trap, and the worst ones are falling for it hook line and sinker. 1
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