The implosion of what remains of the Republican party

[Bishop Hedd]

Sorry, the stars aren't aligned Ms supernova. Your standard bearer got less than 50% of the vote. Please wake me when this lefty takeover of the country is over.

According to Rush, Fox News and this board it has already happened.

[DC Tom]

Just to clarify, I don't know if the district numbers changed over the years, but...

 

Which is probably it. That geographical region (the Adirondacks) hasn't always been the 23rd district - apparently only since 2000, it seems.

[VABills]

Which is probably it. That geographical region (the Adirondacks) hasn't always been the 23rd district - apparently only since 2000, it seems.

of course his own statement had the answer. It was 3 counties way up north that haven't been represented. not the whole area, not the district, just those three counties.

[keepthefaith]

But my favorite headline coming out of this election was this one: Gibbs tells Politico that Obama isn't watching the returns.

 

Let me get this right: you make five visits for Corzine, three for Deeds and send Biden to Watertown, NY...but you're NOT paying attention to the returns? It's like Paris Hilton is our president.

 

I caught that too and laughed. Obama is full of shyt in nearly every presentation he gives.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

Ok, relax Jim, no need to get your panties all up in a bunch. It's just a difference of opinion, that's all. Fine, if you think you need a Tec 9 to protect yourself from someone, then who am I to tell you what you believe you need to do to protect yourself. I happen to believe it is overkill, but that's just my opinion. I would think that a revolver or a shotgun would be all the protection that you would need from someone trying to loot your home, but hey, that's just my opinion.

 

 

So a semi-automatic 9mm or .223 is overkill just because it looks scary, but a shotgun that could punch a fist sized hole through somebody is an appropriate response to an intruder? Personally I love having my Mossberg Persuader shotgun as my main home protection gun, but certainly not because it isn't "overkill". I have an AR-15 too there is no question which gun will do more damage within 20 yards. (it's not the scary looking one).

 

Other than being much more accurate, reliable and easy to conceal, a common 9mm pistol is really no different than an uzi or tec 9 since NY already has laws banning magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds and automatic weapons (very few exceptions).

[IDBillzFan]

I caught that too and laughed. Obama is full of shyt in nearly every presentation he gives.

I may have been too quick to dismiss this. I read this morning that when asked what Obama was doing since he wasn't watching the returns, Gibbs said he was watching the HBO special about Obama last night.

 

THAT is completely believable.

[VABills]

I may have been too quick to dismiss this. I read this morning that when asked what Obama was doing since he wasn't watching the returns, Gibbs said he was watching the HBO special about Obama last night.

 

THAT is completely believable.

Not sure that's true. local radio said he was at the Miley Cyrus (sp???) concert.

[IDBillzFan]

Not sure that's true. local radio said he was at the Miley Cyrus (sp???) concert.

That was actually Michelle and the kids. We both know if Obama really wanted to see Miley Cyrus, he'd have summoned her to one of his parties.

[VABills]

That was actually Michelle and the kids. We both know if Obama really wanted to see Miley Cyrus, he'd have summoned her to one of his parties.

Well I am just sying that WTOP said he too was at the concert.

[Nanker]

It is far more likely that Hoffman's loss, which I admit disappointed me, will help the Republicans realize that they shouldn't just pick a person and shove them into a race without a primary. DeDe made sense to the right because they realized what Obama was doing and, like a bunch of McCain-loving pussies, figured it was easier to go with a Snowe-/Specter-like R for the sake of keeping an R there. I would argue that the left didn't win anything up there so much as the right lost because they were too busy looking at letters and not listening to the people.

 

When you see the absolutely ass-stomping that took place in VA and NJ, it made for an interesting night for everyone interested.

 

But my favorite headline coming out of this election was this one: Gibbs tells Politico that Obama isn't watching the returns.

 

Let me get this right: you make five visits for Corzine, three for Deeds and send Biden to Watertown, NY...but you're NOT paying attention to the returns? It's like Paris Hilton is our president.

 

Exactly so. This is the crux of it. The old guard Republican leadership in the North East is out of touch with the people. They could not have had a more "inclusive" and centrist candidate in the last election than John McCain and they learned nothing when he got his ass handed to him - and them. When faced with a choice between a real liberal Democrat and a liberal-wanna-be RINO, the Dems and most independents will choose the real McCoy. McCain was is an impostor standard bearer of the Republican party and deserved to lose.

 

DeDe grabbed $1,000,000.00 from the Dems to pay off her campaign debt for her endorsement of Owens. Her next move it to move out of the party and join her socialist loving friends.

 

 

Interesting piece on Corzine and other former heads of Goldman Sachs. Thank you Chris Cristie!

[Alaska Darin]

Ok, relax Jim, no need to get your panties all up in a bunch. It's just a difference of opinion, that's all. Fine, if you think you need a Tec 9 to protect yourself from someone, then who am I to tell you what you believe you need to do to protect yourself.

The fact of the matter is I'd bet almost no one uses a Tec-9 to protect their home. It's pretty much a Hollywood gun - looks scary but isn't reliable or accurate.

I happen to believe it is overkill, but that's just my opinion. I would think that a revolver or a shotgun would be all the protection that you would need from someone trying to loot your home, but hey, that's just my opinion.

The problem is you don't understand the issue. There aren't significant differences between Assault weapons and garden variety hunting rifles and handguns. It's mostly about cosmetics.

[Magox]

The fact of the matter is I'd bet almost no one uses a Tec-9 to protect their home. It's pretty much a Hollywood gun - looks scary but isn't reliable or accurate.

 

The problem is you don't understand the issue. There aren't significant differences between Assault weapons and garden variety hunting rifles and handguns. It's mostly about cosmetics.

fair enough, I'll make sure when I run for office that I won't use "gun control" as a platform for my candidacy

[Adam]

Exactly so. This is the crux of it. The old guard Republican leadership in the North East is out of touch with the people. They could not have had a more "inclusive" and centrist candidate in the last election than John McCain and they learned nothing when he got his ass handed to him - and them. When faced with a choice between a real liberal Democrat and a liberal-wanna-be RINO, the Dems and most independents will choose the real McCoy. McCain was is an impostor standard bearer of the Republican party and deserved to lose.

 

DeDe grabbed $1,000,000.00 from the Dems to pay off her campaign debt for her endorsement of Owens. Her next move it to move out of the party and join her socialist loving friends.

 

 

Interesting piece on Corzine and other former heads of Goldman Sachs. Thank you Chris Cristie!

Both parties and their constituents are out of touch. Neither cares about America anymore, they care about consolidating power for themselves

[IDBillzFan]

Both parties and their constituents are out of touch. Neither cares about America anymore, they care about consolidating power for themselves

I believe both parties are completely out of touch, and yes, they are intent on consolidating power for themselves. And while I believe the same held true for many constituents, I also believe the current administration scared the living crap out of sleepers like myself in very short order, and that the people have their eyes wide open, as is evidenced by how quickly the independent voters changed their tunes in just a single year.

 

I believe the people are on the rise, and it will become increasingly evident to people like yourself (who somehow comes across as only caring to point out to everyone how they're all !@#$ed up, but you're not) if unemployment hovers over 10% while the WH et. al. keep pushing through more spending and a health care reform that has no hope of reforming health care.

[John Adams]

I believe the people are on the rise, and it will become increasingly evident to people like yourself (who somehow comes across as only caring to point out to everyone how they're all !@#$ed up, but you're not) if unemployment hovers over 10% while the WH et. al. keep pushing through more spending and a health care reform that has no hope of reforming health care.

 

I agree and believe that Obama and Dem power will be a one-term nightmare. My concern is bigger: Who will replace it. America just booted the Republican blight from office to just replace it with the Dem one.

 

There is no one to challenge these two. It's a sentiment echoed again and again here but that is the true problem.

[Adam]

I believe both parties are completely out of touch, and yes, they are intent on consolidating power for themselves. And while I believe the same held true for many constituents, I also believe the current administration scared the living crap out of sleepers like myself in very short order, and that the people have their eyes wide open, as is evidenced by how quickly the independent voters changed their tunes in just a single year.

 

I believe the people are on the rise, and it will become increasingly evident to people like yourself (who somehow comes across as only caring to point out to everyone how they're all !@#$ed up, but you're not) if unemployment hovers over 10% while the WH et. al. keep pushing through more spending and a health care reform that has no hope of reforming health care.

I am fine with either method of changing health care- both have their points, but both sides just want to win instead of fixing things

[IDBillzFan]

Now THIS is interesting.

[Magox]

Now THIS is interesting.

You know how we always point out that those pesky hypocritical liberals have a double standard.

 

Well http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/56585

 

Get on the health overhaul bandwagon, or don't count on our help in your re-election. That's the hardball message liberal groups are hurling at moderate Democratic senators in a battle that is dividing their party. Their demands: Support a bill that offers optional government-run health coverage and oppose Republican attempts to derail the legislation.

 

The groups are unleashing blunt and personal broadcast ads and e-mails at moderates even as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., tries to shape a health care bill that can attract the 60 votes it needs to pass. Assuming no Republican support, Reid needs backing from all 58 Democrats and both Democratic-leaning independents -- including about a half-dozen moderates who have drawn liberals' ire.

Even so, the liberal MoveOn.org said that in a survey of its 5 million members, 93 percent said the group should not support Democrats who are on the same side as Republicans when it comes to a health overhaul. "No donations, no volunteering and no help getting out the vote," MoveOn said in an e-mail last week.

 

The group said Tuesday it was launching radio ads aimed at moderates Lincoln and Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., accusing each of "siding with insurance companies." It was also mailing sharply worded brochures to tens of thousands of households in Arkansas, Louisiana, Nebraska, North Dakota and even Maine -- home of moderate GOP Sen. Olympia Snowe -- urging recipients to pressure their senators.

 

Even unions like the Service Employees International Union, a strong Obama ally with 2.1 million members, have hinted that their election help should not be taken for granted by Democrats who stray on health care. In a column in The Huffington Post Web site last week, SEIU President Andy Stern noted last year's pleas from Democrats for campaign donations to help the party win 60 seats.

 

Liberal and labor groups have spent under $1 million this year on TV ads criticizing moderate Democrats on health care, according to Evan Tracey, president of the Campaign Media Analysis Group, an Arlington, Va., firm that tracks political ads. That's a tiny piece of the $136 million all sides have spent on TV commercials in the battle, making liberal expenditures what Tracey called "a shot across the bow."

 

Some groups have attacked Reid, who last week said his bill will include a publicly operated insurance plan that would be optional for states. That announcement was seen as a victory by many liberals.

 

Yet with Reid facing a potentially tough re-election next year, the Progressive Change Campaign Committee recently aired a TV ad for several days in Las Vegas with a local nurse telling the camera, "I'm waiting to see if Harry Reid is strong and effective enough as a leader to pass a public health insurance option into law."

 

The liberal blog Firedoglake.com said it was calling thousands of Nevada Democrats, urging them to support an opponent in the Democratic primary if Reid does not force a Senate vote on strong government-run coverage.

 

"I'm not aware of them," Reid said when asked in a brief interview about pressure tactics aimed at him. "I don't read blogs, I don't listen to talk radio, I don't watch cable TV."

 

Talk about targeting your own, that is much more vicious and significant than the House 23rd district

 

I thought this was funny:

 

But liberal pressure has its limits in the conservative states that many moderate Democratic senators represent. At some point, attacks from progressives can amount to a benefit.

 

"Criticism from liberals is almost a political endorsement here," said Loree Bykerk, a political science professor at the University of Nebraska at Omaha. Moderate Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., is among those targeted.

 

Those idiots must not look at the polls, Hell, the national polls overwhelmingly show that people are against this nightmare of a bill, just imagine in a state like Nebraska, I'm sure Ben Nelson is like "please please please, Moveon.org, attack me for not being a liberal !@#$nut"

 

 

Moderates are not bowing to the liberal view of "how the world should be," said Landrieu, adding that Democrats like her "want common sense to prevail."

good for her, and I'm sure now after seeing the recent polls, it's gonna be even more difficult to go along with this "public nightmare"