yall Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Alaska Darin said: Which is why "degrees" exist already. Try again. Settle down Beavis - I disagreed with a point he made (about motivation not being a factor), I wasn't necessarily arguing in favor of hate crime laws. Go back and read again.
Alaska Darin Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 yall said: Settle down Beavis - I disagreed with a point he made, I wasn't necessarily arguing in favor of hate crime laws. Go back and read again. Settle down? Are you implying that I'm worked up over that ridiculous point? Hate Crime legislation is nothing more than pandering.
yall Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Alaska Darin said: Settle down? Are you implying that I'm worked up over that ridiculous point? Hate Crime legislation is nothing more than pandering. No, it's simply a quote from "Beavis and Butthead" that I use on occasion.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 yall said: How does the law specifically create protected classes? To my knowledge (and I could be mistaken) the laws simply says you cannot target someone because of their race, religion, orientation, etc. Which means that implicitly, anyone who's black or gay or mormon could claim "hate crimes" took place, and claim special status. Sorry, I am not buying into that philosophy.
yall Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Joe In Macungie said: Which means that implicitly, anyone who's black or gay or mormon could claim "hate crimes" took place, and claim special status. Sorry, I am not buying into that philosophy. Actually, by it's definition, there isn't a person alive who couldn't claim that a hate crime took place. Like I said before - I don't think the laws are necessary, a good idea, or that they are applied fairly. On that we probably agree. But I cannot emphasize enough that the notion these laws specifically protect minorities and not white heterosexuals is a logical fallacy.
GG Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 What about equal protection for geeks and nerds? When a gang beats and kills an honor student, that's a hate crime against wearers of broken horned rimmed glasses.
Chef Jim Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 yall said: Actually, by it's definition, there isn't a person alive who couldn't claim that a hate crime took place. Like I said before - I don't think the laws are necessary, a good idea, or that they are applied fairly. On that we probably agree. But I cannot emphasize enough that the notion these laws specifically protect minorities and not white heterosexuals is a logical fallacy. But that's who they're pandering to. Once again, how !@#$ing stupid do they think we are.
yall Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Chef Jim said: But that's who they're pandering to. Once again, how !@#$ing stupid do they think we are. Quite stupid is my guess. But then again, how often do we prove them wrong?
yall Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 GG said: What about equal protection for geeks and nerds? When a gang beats and kills an honor student, that's a hate crime against wearers of broken horned rimmed glasses. I think they are working on adding disabilities to the list. While nerdiness may not normally be thought of as a disability, try telling that to a geek trying to get laid on prom night.
GG Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 yall said: I think they are working on adding disabilities to the list. While nerdiness may not normally be thought of as a disability, try telling that to a geek trying to get laid on prom night. Get laid? Good luck finding a geek who can even score a prom date.
Chef Jim Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 yall said: Quite stupid is my guess. But then again, how often do we prove them wrong? Easy with that we ****.
ieatcrayonz Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 erynthered said: Here's a Hate crime. Quote He consulted his doctor and a specialist, both of whom believed his testicle could be brought down again in surgery. It wasn’t until he woke up afterwards that he discovered the doctors were wrong — the force of the assault had caused his testicle to rupture. It had to be removed and will be replaced by a prosthetic before Christmas. See this is the problem with national health care. The government only gives out the nuts at Christmas so you think they are a gift. Your taxes paid for that nut!!!
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