sharper802 Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Another great job by Modrak and company....
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Completely different circumstances and can't really be compared. And for the record, Hardy did have more tds as a rookie than Desean did.
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Modrak must shoulder his share of the blame, but not on this one. Hardy is a beast!
murra Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Modrak must shoulder his share of the blame, but not on this one. Hardy is a beast!
Mr. ChumChums Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 They're completely different types of recievers. When we drafted Hardy, one of the biggest needs was a tall receiver. We got the tallest one. Desean Jackson is a burner type, a la Lee Evans and Roscoe Parrish. We didn't need anothe rone of those.
sharper802 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Posted October 27, 2009 Completely different circumstances and can't really be compared. And for the record, Hardy did have more tds as a rookie than Desean did. You can't be serious???? Let's see. Both taken in the second round. Both WR's. Rookie year : 9 catches for Hardy; 62 for Jackson(for 912 yards). BTW Hardy and Jackson each had two receiving TD's with Jackson getting another rushing TD. Only knock on his rookie year was 4 fumbles 2 lost.
Sisyphean Bills Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Hardy can dust the top shelves. Jackson can't. Nuff said.
sharper802 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Posted October 27, 2009 They're completely different types of recievers. When we drafted Hardy, one of the biggest needs was a tall receiver. We got the tallest one. Desean Jackson is a burner type, a la Lee Evans and Roscoe Parrish. We didn't need anothe rone of those. My point exactly. They chose a height measurement over talent. Hmmmm Steve Smith, Wes Welker, Larry Fitzgerald, Hines Ward.... Not exactly tree toppers but all ProBowl WR's (as much as it pains me to list Welker and Ward)
murra Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 You can't be serious???? Let's see. Both taken in the second round. Both WR's. Rookie year : 9 catches for Hardy; 62 for Jackson(for 912 yards). BTW Hardy and Jackson each had two receiving TD's with Jackson getting another rushing TD. Only knock on his rookie year was 4 fumbles 2 lost. Exactly, can't be compared. You just proved why they can't be compared, learn to read. (and for the record, he literally dropped a TD his rookie year at the 1 yd line, so for all intensive purposes, he had 3 recieving)
sharper802 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Posted October 27, 2009 They're completely different types of recievers. When we drafted Hardy, one of the biggest needs was a tall receiver. We got the tallest one. Desean Jackson is a burner type, a la Lee Evans and Roscoe Parrish. We didn't need anothe rone of those. By burner type you mean the type that scores two TD's over 50 yards. Yep definitely don't need one of those....
sharper802 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Posted October 27, 2009 Exactly, can't be compared. You just proved why they can't be compared, learn to read. (and for the record, he literally dropped a TD his rookie year at the 1 yd line, so for all intensive purposes, he had 3 recieving) Can't be compared???? The Bills could have drafted either one and again they chose poorly....
heisleyjr Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 With more than plenty small rec. what makes anyone think that one more would have made any impact at all, added to the fact that they can't use the ones they have now.
Geno Smith's Arm Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 You can't be serious???? Let's see. Both taken in the second round. Both WR's. Rookie year : 9 catches for Hardy; 62 for Jackson(for 912 yards). BTW Hardy and Jackson each had two receiving TD's with Jackson getting another rushing TD. Only knock on his rookie year was 4 fumbles 2 lost. Yeah. don't forget the QB's. HOw many passes would have made their way to Desean if he played for the Bills with Trent? Even beyond all the other factors (the Bills have tiny guys running around all over the place, we didn't need another one). It's too early.
MURTR Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 You can't be serious???? Let's see. Both taken in the second round. Both WR's. Rookie year : 9 catches for Hardy; 62 for Jackson(for 912 yards). BTW Hardy and Jackson each had two receiving TD's with Jackson getting another rushing TD. Only knock on his rookie year was 4 fumbles 2 lost. No point in even comparing the two this early in their careers: -Hardy tore his knee up, is Modrak supposed to see that in his crystal ball? -At the time we needed redzone help and Hardy's size is more of an asset there than D.Jackson's speed. -Jackson has Donovan McNabb throwing him the ball. We have Edwards who is afraid to the throw the ball more than 10 yards. -We have Lee Evans on our team who is pretty damn similar to Jackson and over the last 2 years we have not found a way to get him the ball deep, so what makes you think we would be able to get Jackson the ball deep? I am sick of fans just throwing out random players names and saying the Bills totally missed the boat, its such faulty logic. Sometimes there is a case to be had if the draft pick was a bold pick at the time (i.e. Witner), but the Hardy pick made perfect sense. Furthermore, Hardy is in his 2nd year, give the guy a damn chance before you label him a bust.
Omar Little Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 My point exactly. They chose a height measurement over talent. Hmmmm Steve Smith, Wes Welker, Larry Fitzgerald, Hines Ward.... Not exactly tree toppers but all ProBowl WR's (as much as it pains me to list Welker and Ward) Larry Fitzgerald is 6-foot-3, which is pretty damn big.
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 By burner type you mean the type that scores two TD's over 50 yards. Yep definitely don't need one of those.... and everyone would have flamed on here for the choice. Also, Desean had alot of character questions which is why so many other teams passed as well.
billsfreak Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Too early to compare these two. They are two different types of players, coupled with Hardy's injury, this is one that you can't throw at the FO's face just yet. Even without an injury, it normally takes WRs longer to adjust to the NFL than other positions. Plus, Hardy hasn't spiked the ball before he got to into the endzone yet either.
billsfreak Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Yeah. don't forget the QB's. HOw many passes would have made their way to Desean if he played for the Bills with Trent? Even beyond all the other factors (the Bills have tiny guys running around all over the place, we didn't need another one). It's too early. Don't look at just the quarterbacks, look at the whole team. I agree, they needed to draft for size and strength, they already have a stable of smaller, lighter, faster receivers running all over the place.
LynchMob23 Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Really, you shouldn't look at Hardy vs Jackson. You should compare Jackson to Parrish - because they are in effect the same kind of receiver. However Roscoe has never aspired via precise routes, run blocking, etc. to be as good as Jackson is in his second year.
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