Jump to content

This Is Weird, WV Woman Recants Story About Attack.


Steely Dan

Recommended Posts

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/21/assaul...nted/index.html

 

What the hell?

 

She made up the story, all six confessed, supposedly there is more evidence than just her story. This is really fascinating.

 

He said she was "fully aware" that she might face criminal charges, "but she still wanted to go forward with this."

 

Brian Abraham, the former Logan County prosecutor who handled the case, defended the convictions. "The case wasn't based on her statements," he said, noting that Williams never testified in the case. "The case was based on the evidence discovered by the police, including the confessions of the six defendants."

 

He added, "All six of them have been in jail without filing appeals. If they file something afterwards, the evidence was pretty overwhelming for the charges on which they were convicted."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091022/ap_on_..._woman_tortured

 

Potts said Williams has received several anonymous phone calls from people threatening her life.

____________________________________________

 

In a January interview with The Call & Post, a black newspaper in Cleveland, Williams acknowledged she had been mistreated but said her mother made her embellish the story for exposure and financial gain. Williams told the newspaper that she was afraid of her mother, who knew some of the defendants.

 

Williams' mother, Carmen Williams, died in June. Potts said he did not know what role the mother might have had in fabricating the case.

 

Curiouser and curiouser.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091022/ap_on_..._woman_tortured

 

Potts said Williams has received several anonymous phone calls from people threatening her life.

____________________________________________

 

In a January interview with The Call & Post, a black newspaper in Cleveland, Williams acknowledged she had been mistreated but said her mother made her embellish the story for exposure and financial gain. Williams told the newspaper that she was afraid of her mother, who knew some of the defendants.

 

Williams' mother, Carmen Williams, died in June. Potts said he did not know what role the mother might have had in fabricating the case.

 

Curiouser and curiouser.

Why exactly would the AP put this quote in their article:

a black newspaper in Cleveland

what is a black newspaper (other than one that would be very hard to read)?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You know, I don't want to touch this case specifically b/c it's about as clear as the water in the Charles River....

 

But I will say that this phenomenon of accusation - recanting/proved hoax has happened time out of mind. Some really didn't happen, but for some victims, PTSD can do strange things to the brain.

 

The guilty pleas aren't surprising. That's how the justice system works. Too many times, people who didn't do something they're accused of plead guilty for lesser sentences to avoid prosecution and putting their lives in the balance with, as DC Tom says, "12 people who were stupid enough to not know how to get out of jury duty" and with much bigger sentences. This is not even to speak of the phenomenon of people who are perfectly innocent confessing after being in the interrogation room --- some people just crack and come to believe that they actually did whatever they're being charged with. It's weird but it happens.

 

Last point, twenty'll get you one that hate-mongers Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson won't have anything to say. Maybe a high-pitched, "That's different!"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

that's just good police work. Make up that there's a lot of evidence or that the others are dime-ing you out and then you make a deal for a lesser charge with a confession. That's how the vast majority of people get in jail - but of course most of them actually are guilty, but certainly not all of them.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

'Confessions' are pretty weak evidence a lot of the time. Plenty of people have been sent to jail / the gallows/chair based upon false confessions (and not even via the use of torture). Some people (well quite a lot of people) will just fold to get out of the immediate unpleasant situation (questioned by the scarey police officer), even if it only puts them in a worse situation later on (life in jail with really scarey criminals, if they are lucky).

 

Unless a confession includes information unknown to anyone but the police investigating it and the criminal who committed the act it should always be looked at with caution.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

'Confessions' are pretty weak evidence a lot of the time. Plenty of people have been sent to jail / the gallows/chair based upon false confessions (and not even via the use of torture). Some people (well quite a lot of people) will just fold to get out of the immediate unpleasant situation (questioned by the scarey police officer), even if it only puts them in a worse situation later on (life in jail with really scarey criminals, if they are lucky).

 

Unless a confession includes information unknown to anyone but the police investigating it and the criminal who committed the act it should always be looked at with caution.

 

I definitely agree with you there, but it doesn't seem to be the case in this situation, IMO. Supposedly there is more evidence than just their confessions. In fact it seems like the weight of the evidence is what coerced the confessions.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

From reading the stories, it doesn't sound like all of the accused were innocent--maybe just not AS guilty of exactly the crime they were accused of.

 

Or, they could be guilty of all charges and the girl could be lying now.

 

Apparently this girl is a bit unstable. Who's to say she hasn't blamed herself for the attack and as a result has built up a lot of guilt over these guys' convictions.

 

No way to tell, and it's worth a review of the case. But a recanting witness shouldn't automatically spring convicted felons.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

×
×
  • Create New...