ExiledInIllinois Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 More often than with your example I've had the **** scared out of me with some motorcycle gang wannabe roaring past me. That is good point! Like my skiing analogy... When over taking someone on a tight catwalk (a tight trail)... In the past it was considered safer to announce one's desire to over take. Actually, it has been found out that the safest thing to do is NOTHING, don't say a peep and just pass the person quietly so as not to startle them and cause an accident. Afterall, that would be the up hill skier that was over taking the down hill skier... That is their (up hill person) to safely get around (if so desired, if they can't pass safely... Then they must not pass at all) the other person (person further down hill). Again... It is not common practice anymore to announce yourself while skiing a tight piste in "traffic" because it causes more harm.
erynthered Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Maybe they shouldn't be in the blind spot. It is their dumbass. Ya, maybe they save lives... But they enable dumbass behavior like riding in a blind spot. I do think that autos should drive defensively and bikes (and cyclists) should drive offensively. How those two styles mesh on the road can be dangerous at times... But hey, dems the breaks and if one doesn't like it... Get something safer.
KD in CA Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 No, the article doesn't mention anything about that. They were just riding along not causing anyone any bother. That article gave almost no details at all of how the incident came to pass. Sounds to me like the bike riders were dickheads, riding the guys' bumper, and he overreacted in a big way. Clearly he should be punished, but up to 10 years (or anywhere remotely close to that) in prison is ludicrous.
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 I can agree with that also. Every day going home there's this crotch rocket !@#$er zooming in and out of traffic on one of our bridges down here knockin at least 90. One of these days I'm going to see him splatterd all over the bridge because of the way he drives. And that is his problem. Except precedents like the story that Rk posted will just send everything into a clusterphuck.
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Hey, who is the liberal here? You or me?
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 That article gave almost no details at all of how the incident came to pass. Sounds to me like the bike riders were dickheads, riding the guys' bumper, and he overreacted in a big way. Clearly he should be punished, but up to 10 years (or anywhere remotely close to that) in prison is ludicrous. Ya exactly! Why couldn't the bikes stop in time? Because they were TAILGATING!
erynthered Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Hey, who is the liberal here? You or me? Hey, I dont mind sharing the road, I just have a problem sharing the money I earn with lazy folk.
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Hey, I dont mind sharing the road, I just have a problem sharing the money I earn with lazy folk. So how do you feel about Amish buggies and say all electric vehicles on the road? If you have a gas/diesel vehicle, you pay more to upkeep that road. Should you have priority and the right to use more of that road? I do. Same argument on what you said above.
KD in CA Posted November 3, 2009 Posted November 3, 2009 Ya exactly! Why couldn't the bikes stop in time? Because they were TAILGATING! Yup. Which gets right back to the crux of the thread: Most cyclists don't think they should have to follow the rules of road but get into all sorts of hysterics when drivers acts the same way.
ieatcrayonz Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 http://www.velonews.com/article/99813/road...t-victims-speak Peterson was asked if he had lingering trauma from the incident. “More nervous, yes; whenever a car comes by me still — a year and three months later — I flinch, and even when I'm driving and I see brake lights in front of me, I flinch every single time,” he said. She then added, “In terms of public safety, there isn’t a cyclist in Los Angeles who would be comfortable if he were out on the streets.” Spandex Wearing Marys.
DC Tom Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 Peterson was asked if he had lingering trauma from the incident. “More nervous, yes; whenever a car comes by me still — a year and three months later — I flinch, and even when I'm driving and I see brake lights in front of me, I flinch every single time,” he said. That is NOT trauma.
KD in CA Posted November 8, 2009 Posted November 8, 2009 Peterson was asked if he had lingering trauma from the incident. “More nervous, yes; whenever a car comes by me still — a year and three months later — I flinch, and even when I'm driving and I see brake lights in front of me, I flinch every single time,” he said. It's been just awful! I haven't been able to tailgate a car while going 40 mph downhill since the incident!
ieatcrayonz Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 That is NOT trauma. To a Spandex Wearing Mary it is the biggest trauma since they wanted five oreos and Mommy said they could only have four.
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 It's been just awful! I haven't been able to tailgate a car while going 40 mph downhill since the incident!
Kevbeau Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 I want to truly thank all of you for bringing a little ray of sunshine into an otherwise mundane beginning of the workweek.
Fan in San Diego Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 I thought I would throw this in the mix since you guys enjoy discussing these things. A 63 yr. old man was hit and killed on his bicycle yesterday just a couple of blocks from my house. He was hit and killed by a police officer responding to a call. The cyclist suddenly turned in front of the police car and was run over. The officer was deemed not at fault. Not surprizing here since the police are never found at fault. They could walk in your house, empty six rounds into your chest and it would be your fault somehow. Anyways here's the link. http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/no...d-monday-morni/ OK resume arguing.
Chef Jim Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 I thought I would throw this in the mix since you guys enjoy discussing these things. A 63 yr. old man was hit and killed on his bicycle yesterday just a couple of blocks from my house. He was hit and killed by a police officer responding to a call. The cyclist suddenly turned in front of the police car and was run over. The officer was deemed not at fault. Not surprizing here since the police are never found at fault. They could walk in your house, empty six rounds into your chest and it would be your fault somehow. Anyways here's the link. http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/no...d-monday-morni/ OK resume arguing. So what is it you're trying to say here?
erynthered Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 So what is it you're trying to say here? That the SDPD are murderers and can get away with it. At least thats the way I read it.
Chef Jim Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 That the SDPD are murderers and can get away with it. At least thats the way I read it. Yeah, i got that too, but I'd like his explanation of what that has to do with the bicycle accident story.
erynthered Posted November 10, 2009 Posted November 10, 2009 Yeah, i got that too, but I'd like his explanation of what that has to do with the bicycle accident story. That article was such a detailed article too, wasnt it?
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