Gugny Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Every team has one play here and there that changes the complexion of their season. If the Jets make that missed FG yesterday....., etc... I can totally see where cbiscuit is coming from. Not only would we have won that game, but I think it would have done a lot for the psyche of the entire team. Losing to Cleveland might not have happened with the confidence of knowing you knocked off NE.
Ramius Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 we are currently in first place in the AFC East??? The Pats* and Jets would have 2 divisional losses and we have all home divisional games left (well, Toronto against the Jets). I'm not prediciting anything but I'm just saying. You never know. Do you realize that if we didnt have dick jauron as coach, we wouldn't have tanked to a 2-8 finish last season, and wouldn't be craptastic this season?
PromoTheRobot Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 As bad as the Bills are...and they are bad...two plays go differently and we are 4-2 and in first place. Ponderous. PTR
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 Do you realize that if we didnt have dick jauron as coach, we wouldn't have tanked to a 2-8 finish last season, and wouldn't be craptastic this season? You're right. Jauron needs to stop fumbling punts and kickoffs; stop refusing to throw the ball down field; stop being so bad that he couldn't get a sniff as a backup QB and had to go to some insane minor league. I've never said Jauron was a great coach. But the Bills players lost a lot of games on their won. A coach can only do so much. Jauron can't make JP have pocket prescence, just like he can't make Trent play with balls.
Bufcomments Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 we are currently in first place in the AFC East??? The Pats* and Jets would have 2 divisional losses and we have all home divisional games left (well, Toronto against the Jets). I'm not prediciting anything but I'm just saying. You never know. I thought this last night right after the game. But the negative side of it is the word IF..... All they had to do is take care of business at home vs the Browns and finish the game at NE we are 4-2 even with all the injuries. I feel like coaching cost us 2 games. Seems like we have this problem every year with Jauron. Somebody should have told McLovin to down the ball no matter what.......coaching. Jauron should have pulled Trent in the 3rd during the Browns game since it was clear he wasn't doing the job....Coaching. Think the players don't realize this??
Fewell733 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Do you realize that if we didnt have dick jauron as coach, we wouldn't have tanked to a 2-8 finish last season, and wouldn't be craptastic this season? if we had a coach like Rex Ryan we'd never be in this position!! Oh wait, Dick the punching bag's team just beat Ryan's team in Ryan's house and with a back up QB.
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 I thought this last night right after the game. But the negative side of it is the word IF..... All they had to do is take care of business at home vs the Browns and finish the game at NE we are 4-2 even with all the injuries. I feel like coaching cost us 2 games. Seems like we have this problem every year with Jauron. Somebody should have told McLovin to down the ball no matter what.......coaching. Jauron should have pulled Trent in the 3rd during the Browns game since it was clear he wasn't doing the job....Coaching. Think the players don't realize this?? I don't know man. McKelvin and Parrish have returning kicks long enough to know what to do. You think they should be told not to fumble? And Parrish broke to rules: 1) he fielded a punt inside the 10 and 2) tried to pick up a bouncing ball. Jauron has made a lot of mistakes but these are one of them IMO. It could be argued that so far DJ outcoached Belichick and Ryan and defensively, went toe to toe with Sean Payton until the offense worn out the defense.
Bufcomments Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 I don't know man. McKelvin and Parrish have returning kicks long enough to know what to do. You think they should be told not to fumble? And Parrish broke to rules: 1) he fielded a punt inside the 10 and 2) tried to pick up a bouncing ball. Jauron has made a lot of mistakes but these are one of them IMO. It could be argued that so far DJ outcoached Belichick and Ryan and defensively, went toe to toe with Sean Payton until the offense worn out the defense. this is what I mean with McKelvin....... April or Jauron should have told him under no situation you bring that ball out if it goes into the end zone. PERIOD. We had the hands team on the field and he would get limited blocking. Or at the very least go down once you get past the 20yd line. Coaching. In the Browns game Parrish was trying to make a play since he knew that the offence was playing like dog shyt. So I semi give him a pass but you are right he broke mad rules..
TH3 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 This is the ultimate frustration with this team and the why this coach must go. The Bills are - essentially - a couple of small breaks away from being in first place - and those small breaks are indicative of poor coaching. The NFL is set up so the middle 20 teams can all beat each other and the difference is coaching. There must be 20 plays a game under this regime where poor coaching is evident. The fumbles on returns, having 12 men on a return, having no return team on the field (Cleveland game end of 3rd quarter), at the end of the game yesterday - going into the wind - we fail to get that extra 10 yards - with plenty of time left - to put Lindell into a more high percentage kick....the list goes on and on....BUT THAT IS WHAT THIS TEAM IS!! - Middle 20 with horrible coaching - we end up being the team that doesn't do the little things to win.
DC Tom Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 That's the beauty of JauronBall...the fact that you're always just "one play away" from leading the division masks how utterly imcompetent a Jauron-led team really is.
billsfreak Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Really no silver lining for you is there? Just like most fans, I am fed up wih decades of losing and the lack of effort from the organization to win. It is to the point where a win is more of a relief than a reason to be excited, and it shouldn't be that way. Where would the silver lining be in losing season after losing season? I haven't seen it yet. I have been a die hard fan for over 35 years and couldn't count how much money I have spent on tickets, trips to training camp, clothes, hats, memorabilia, NFL Sunday Ticket, all because of my loyalty to an organization that hasn't shown any to it's fan base in years and years.
Malazan Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Yup, thought about that myself, just how close this team was from leading our division. what a sad division
billsfreak Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 As bad as the Bills are...and they are bad...two plays go differently and we are 4-2 and in first place. Ponderous. PTR Thats true, but they weren't bad luck plays like how the Bengals lost to Denver opening weekend, our miscues were caused by Bills players, not the opponents, not the officials, not the weather, not bad luck, etc.-all our team's fault. I think our coaching staff is terrible, but you can't blame these types of screwups on them for the most part, professionals need to know better than to commit mental f-ups like those were.
The Senator Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 we are currently in first place in the AFC East??? The Pats* and Jets would have 2 divisional losses and we have all home divisional games left (well, Toronto against the Jets). I'm not prediciting anything but I'm just saying. You never know. I thought about that constantly right up to the New Orleans game, C.Biscuit - then, our offense couldn't score a TD against the Saints, which we followed up with consecutive losses to win-less teams, getting crushed in Miami and failing to score a TD once again against the hapless Browns. It was then that any delusions of this being a playoff team went out the window. But you're right - anything can happen. I did predict that they'd somehow find a face-saving way to get Edwards out of the line-up, be it some mysterious illness, H1N1, a 'phantom' hit (did anyone actually see Trentie get hit in the head?), or whatever and - lo & behold - looks like Trent's out for a while. Maybe Fitz will prove adequate, given the plethora of offensive weapons, for this team to make a run at post season play - or at least give us a modicum of respectability.
crazyDingo Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 You do realize that if the genders were changed and they brought in some sequins, they would be the Rockettes?
Maddog69 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 we are currently in first place in the AFC East??? The Pats* and Jets would have 2 divisional losses and we have all home divisional games left (well, Toronto against the Jets). I'm not prediciting anything but I'm just saying. You never know. or we go 3 and out, punt the ball and NE scores. You never know. But I think my scenario is much more likely
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Posted October 19, 2009 I thought about that constantly right up to the New Orleans game, C.Biscuit - then, our offense couldn't score a TD against the Saints, which we followed up with consecutive losses to win-less teams, getting crushed in Miami and failing to score a TD once again against the hapless Browns. It was then that any delusions of this being a playoff team went out the window. But you're right - anything can happen. I did predict that they'd somehow find a face-saving way to get Edwards out of the line-up, be it some mysterious illness, H1N1, a 'phantom' hit (did anyone actually see Trentie get hit in the head?), or whatever and - lo & behold - looks like Trent's out for a while. Maybe Fitz will prove adequate, given the plethora of offensive weapons, for this team to make a run at post season play - or at least give us a modicum of respectability. Granted the offense sucked that game (NO defense is pretty good though), but for 3 and half quarters, we gave NO their toughest game of the season. And I blacked out during the Mia and Cleveland games.
lets_go_bills Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 we are currently in first place in the AFC East??? The Pats* and Jets would have 2 divisional losses and we have all home divisional games left (well, Toronto against the Jets). I'm not prediciting anything but I'm just saying. You never know. Do you realize if Leodis doesn't fumble, that guy in Florida wouldn't have had a heart attack.
Kultarr Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 If he doesn't fumble, the dream of another 7-9 season looks that much more achievable.
apuszczalowski Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 If IFs and Buts were Candy and Nuts....................... Buffalo could be 5-1 right now if the offence puts up a couple points against the Saints and they actually stay on the field for more then 3 downs at a time. If all those things happen, there is no way the Bills front office even considers letting DJ go this year
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