Beerball Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 for bringing folding utensils to school probably looked something like this whatcha think?
BarkLessWagMore Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 for bringing folding utensils to school probably looked something like this whatcha think? Another hoodlum off the street. Wouldn't surprise me if his parents were Al-Queda. [/sarcasm] Wow. Does that school ever look foolish.
The Poojer Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 way to spin that in the article....i have always called them swiss army knives, i guess calling it a folding camping utensil makes this a more appealing story....bring a jackknife to school and you should get suspended, especially in todays world....45 days, however, is a bit excessive
BuffaloBud Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 45 days - bit agressive. However, the school policy is zero tolerance and there is a knife shown in the picture.
Ramius Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 Hooray for overreaction! Let's not look at this at face value for what it is...a kid brought in a swiss army knife to eat his lunch. Nope, much better to freak out and overreact and treat him like a common criminal.
Beerball Posted October 13, 2009 Author Posted October 13, 2009 Hooray for overreaction! Let's not look at this at face value for what it is...a kid brought in a swiss army knife to eat his lunch. Nope, much better to freak out and overreact and treat him like a common criminal. The district (along with most in the country I bet) backed themselves into a corner. They set a zero tolerance policy, they set the length of the suspension & they sent a copy of the policy to parents (should have had them sign and return an acknowledgement) maybe as part of a school handbook. I'm guessing on this, but I've been through this stuff with 3 kids. The school is to blame for not giving themselves the authority to deal with 'bringing a weapon to school' on a case by case basis. Perhaps a suspension is mandatory, but they have leeway in its length (1-45 days?). They could just stand the kid against the wall and let the entire school pelt him with dodge balls.
RayFinkle Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 What kind of retard parent gives a 6 year old a pocket knife?
The Poojer Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 a parent who wants to make sure their little superstar has everything he could possibly want and can't say 'no' for fear of not having the same stuff as the neighbors kids What kind of retard parent gives a 6 year old a pocket knife?
Beerball Posted October 13, 2009 Author Posted October 13, 2009 What kind of retard parent gives a 6 year old a pocket knife? Surely you jest?
Ramius Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 The district (along with most in the country I bet) backed themselves into a corner. They set a zero tolerance policy, they set the length of the suspension & they sent a copy of the policy to parents (should have had them sign and return an acknowledgement) maybe as part of a school handbook. I'm guessing on this, but I've been through this stuff with 3 kids. The school is to blame for not giving themselves the authority to deal with 'bringing a weapon to school' on a case by case basis. Perhaps a suspension is mandatory, but they have leeway in its length (1-45 days?). They could just stand the kid against the wall and let the entire school pelt him with dodge balls. From what i gather reading the article, the kid didn't threaten anyone and used it to eat lunch. He was 6 years old. Probably thought it was "cool" and he could show all his friends. So you can: 1. Tell this 6 year old that you can't take it to school because it has a knife on it and is dangerous and let him go on with his life. 2. Freak out irrationally and suspend him for 1/4 of the year, while this kid probably has no clue what the hell he did to earn that punishment. But "that'll learn him." Its a damn 6 year old.
The Poojer Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 substitute a gun for the 'folding camping utensil'....keep in mind i agree that the suspension is excessive, but there is no place in school anymore for bringing pocket knives in to show and tell.....too many crazy people out there...even little kids, keeping in mind a 6 year old is in school with up to 12 year olds. From what i gather reading the article, the kid didn't threaten anyone and used it to eat lunch. He was 6 years old. Probably thought it was "cool" and he could show all his friends. So you can: 1. Tell this 6 year old that you can't take it to school because it has a knife on it and is dangerous and let him go on with his life. 2. Freak out irrationally and suspend him for 1/4 of the year, while this kid probably has no clue what the hell he did to earn that punishment. But "that'll learn him." Its a damn 6 year old.
Ramius Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 a parent who wants to make sure their little superstar has everything he could possibly want and can't say 'no' for fear of not having the same stuff as the neighbors kids Or a kid in cub scouts. I had a pocket knife when i was 6 and in cub scouts.
Beerball Posted October 13, 2009 Author Posted October 13, 2009 From what i gather reading the article, the kid didn't threaten anyone and used it to eat lunch. He was 6 years old. Probably thought it was "cool" and he could show all his friends. So you can: 1. Tell this 6 year old that you can't take it to school because it has a knife on it and is dangerous and let him go on with his life. 2. Freak out irrationally and suspend him for 1/4 of the year, while this kid probably has no clue what the hell he did to earn that punishment. But "that'll learn him." Its a damn 6 year old. I don't think we disagree. The school 'had' to do what they did because they set a very restrictive policy (not unlike similar ones in most schools I would guess). The easy thing is tell the kid to leave it at home, but they (school) didn't give themselves that chance.
Ramius Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 substitute a gun for the 'folding camping utensil'....keep in mind i agree that the suspension is excessive, but there is no place in school anymore for bringing pocket knives in to show and tell.....too many crazy people out there...even little kids, keeping in mind a 6 year old is in school with up to 12 year olds. Yup. Theres exactly no difference between a kid bringing in a gun to school and a kid who brings in a swiss army knife to use as a fork for lunch.
Phlegm Alley Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 45 days of reformatory school!!! Hell, if he was drunk and ran over someone and killed them, he'd get less than 30 days in jail.
The Poojer Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 have you seen what cub scouts is for 6 year olds these days? nothing like when i was 6, it is arts and crafts..they don't do anything that requires camping gear until much later in the process....i honestly do not believe there is a reason for any 6 year old to have a pocket knife Or a kid in cub scouts. I had a pocket knife when i was 6 and in cub scouts.
Ramius Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 have you seen what cub scouts is for 6 year olds these days? nothing like when i was 6, it is arts and crafts..they don't do anything that requires camping gear until much later in the process....i honestly do not believe there is a reason for any 6 year old to have a pocket knife Or you expose kids to things like pocket knives at an early age and teach them proper use and handling of the tool and what it can do.
The Poojer Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 that wasn't my point and it wasn't your point.....you said he probably thought it was cool and brought it in(or something to that effect)....what if the gun fell in the hands of some young miscreant....lets say a young Dean and he shivs some young mofo...... also, there is no reason whatsoever to bring your own utensils into school, they have plenty of utensils in schools for kids to use... I am not saying i agree with this nonsense, but it is the hand we have been dealt, and unfortunately we need to abide by it or, make a case to get the rules changed.... Yup. Theres exactly no difference between a kid bringing in a gun to school and a kid who brings in a swiss army knife to use as a fork for lunch.
Beerball Posted October 13, 2009 Author Posted October 13, 2009 also, there is no reason whatsoever to bring your own utensils into school, they have plenty of utensils in schools for kids to use... Your kids must go to one of them there upscale schools. Mine take plastic.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 Yup. Theres exactly no difference between a kid bringing in a gun to school and a kid who brings in a swiss army knife to use as a fork for lunch. You mean you don't use your 45 as an eating utensil?
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