nick in* england Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 I have to call out Smith for his play last night. One play in particular stands out to me... Sometime in the 3rd Quarter L. Smith appears on the OL, not for the first time... Jennings picks up the LB on the blitz and makes a very good job of it - Teague, Villarial and Williams are doing a very mediocre job of holing off a 3 man pass rush on the right side. And then we have #72 L. Smith... OK he was against Richard Seymour, BUT, Smith didn't even get a hand on him. Seymour makes a pretty easy move up the inside on Smith, who is flailing his arms around like he is trying to put out a fire on Seymours butt. Smith then flaps in mid air trying to turn 480 degrees to find him man (I can't be sure but I think he had his eyes closed) and then falls on the ground like a big sack of stevestojan. The result. Seymour gets a VERY easy sack. Thats my shining example of what is wrong with the OL. But they were all of them abysmal against the Pats. I know it is hard and the Pats prepare well, but in a WHOLE WEEK to prepare for the SUPERBOWL CHAMPIONS you are telling me that the coaches and players couldn't have worked through a LARGE number of possible formations and blitz pickups to slow down that rush??? Even when the Pats DIDN'T send a LB or DB as an extra rusher our fat boys up front backpeddled out of their way faster than if a car ful of homebos with Uzis was coming at them... Yes Drew was awful. Yes the playcalling was pathetic. Yes McGahee dances too much. Yes the Defence decided they had enough. Yes we should have made better use of Travis. But where is the battle won and lost in football? On the Offensive Line. If our group of lard arses can't do a better job than that, then I think we're looking at a WAY WAY WAY sub-.500 season... Even if we correct every other problem we have. When I see line play like that, it makes me ashamed to feel part of the OL bretheren.
nick in* england Posted November 15, 2004 Author Posted November 15, 2004 i'm bumping cos these boys pissed me off THAT MUCH
Steven in MD Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Why do we keep rotating through on the OL? Don't most teams use a set 5 players on the OL?
nick in* england Posted November 15, 2004 Author Posted November 15, 2004 Why do we keep rotating through on the OL? Don't most teams use a set 5 players on the OL? 117802[/snapback] simply because the coaches have no faith in the guys we have available.
RuntheDamnBall Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Sometime in the 3rd Quarter 117661[/snapback] Whoah, whoah, whoah, you made it into the third quarter?
nick in* england Posted November 15, 2004 Author Posted November 15, 2004 Whoah, whoah, whoah, you made it into the third quarter? 117805[/snapback] worse than that. I stayed up to watch the end of the game in the vain hope we could come back. it was 4:45am by the time the game ended
stuckincincy Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 simply because the coaches have no faith in the guys we have available. 117804[/snapback] Perhaps the feeling is mutual.
nick in* england Posted November 15, 2004 Author Posted November 15, 2004 Perhaps the feeling is mutual. 117824[/snapback] i'm not sure on what grounds. the OL coach for example is a respected/revered position coach in the NFL. the players can't ask for much more than that
Wacka Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Please listen to Nick all those "DB is the cause of all our problems " people. He PLAYS the position and knows what is involved. If our piss poor O-line could make ANY semblance of blocking, we would have a MUCH MUCH better record. McGahee getting tackled in the backfield is not due to him not seing holes, it is due to the ABSENCE of those holes. It's hard to get anything when 5 guys are right in front of you with no one on them. If we could run block, we attempt less passes. The D played two games because we couldn't do anything on offense. The Pats had about a 2-1 advantage in TOP. We need to get the best FA O-lineman available and spend several draft picks on the O-line.
Risin Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Please listen to Nick all those "DB is the cause of all our problems " people. He PLAYS the position and knows what is involved. If our piss poor O-line could make ANY semblance of blocking, we would have a MUCH MUCH better record. McGahee getting tackled in the backfield is not due to him not seing holes, it is due to the ABSENCE of those holes. It's hard to get anything when 5 guys are right in front of you with no one on them. If we could run block, we attempt less passes. The D played two games because we couldn't do anything on offense. The Pats had about a 2-1 advantage in TOP. We need to get the best FA O-lineman available and spend several draft picks on the O-line. 118309[/snapback] Drew had time last night, were you watching?
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Smith is terrible. What happened to Tucker?
nick in* england Posted November 15, 2004 Author Posted November 15, 2004 Drew had time last night, were you watching? 118315[/snapback] Only at times. Let me be clear. I am citing the OL as culprits for the quality play of this team AS WELL AS poor decision making by Bledsoe... etc etc etc...
nick in* england Posted November 15, 2004 Author Posted November 15, 2004 Smith is terrible. What happened to Tucker? 118321[/snapback] He was swapped in and out all night. Presumably this is all about personnel packages???
Corp000085 Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 A FA offensive lineman? I thought that the curse of will wollford precluded that the bills never make any personnel moves with the O line?
PromoTheRobot Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Drew was sacked once yesterday. He threw 3 INTs with no rush on him. Stop blaming the o-line, the coaches, the fans, his mom, and making excuses for Bledsoe. He sucks and he's dragging the rest of the Bills down the drain. PTR
34-78-83 Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Drew was sacked once yesterday. He threw 3 INTs with no rush on him. Stop blaming the o-line, the coaches, the fans, his mom, and making excuses for Bledsoe. He sucks and he's dragging the rest of the Bills down the drain. PTR 118341[/snapback] As far as last night's game is concerned atleast, I gotta agree with this completely.
John from Riverside Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Please listen to Nick all those "DB is the cause of all our problems " people. He PLAYS the position and knows what is involved. If our piss poor O-line could make ANY semblance of blocking, we would have a MUCH MUCH better record. McGahee getting tackled in the backfield is not due to him not seing holes, it is due to the ABSENCE of those holes. It's hard to get anything when 5 guys are right in front of you with no one on them. If we could run block, we attempt less passes. The D played two games because we couldn't do anything on offense. The Pats had about a 2-1 advantage in TOP. We need to get the best FA O-lineman available and spend several draft picks on the O-line. 118309[/snapback] I also know a thing or two about Offensive Line play and I STILL think that Bledsoe played like crap..... I wasn't happy with the run blocking.....but I graded the pass protection out at a C-
Fan in San Diego Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 The reception must be bad in England. I was commenting on how much time Drew had to throw the ball last night. Drew stunk it up all on his own. Maybe the run blocking could have been better. But the pass blocking was outstanding.
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