uticaclub Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 i know every NFL team must deal with injuries but it is week 4 & we could be missing up to 8 opening day starters, i know that r coaching is terrible, but could all those soft practices wand non hitting training camps just leaving our players to be more prone to getting hurt.
BillsZubaz Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 i know every NFL team must deal with injuries but it is week 4 & we could be missing up to 8 opening day starters, i know that r coaching is terrible, but could all those soft practices wand non hitting training camps just leaving our players to be more prone to getting hurt. I went on a rant during the offseason about how the Buffalo Bills have consistently been at the top of the NFL in terms of injuries and players on IR since Rusty Jones left. The trend seems to be continuing this year. I think there is an undeniable correlation between the switch to Allaire, soft practices and the constant bombardment of injuries. My views are the same. More so solidified. This is a very real problem with this team and has been for several years....
The Big Cat Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 Can't we just bump one of the 30 threads pertaining to this topic rather than starting a new one??
evanstoprobowl Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 I think you are right about conditioning. Another factor is the small fast player concept. They tend to take some big hits at full speed.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 The Giants had like 9 starters out last week. They must run a soft camp and have a crappy training staff. Or this is pro football and players get hurt.
JESSEFEFFER Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 Conditioning, or lack thereof, is usually evidenced by muscle injuries. Broken bones and blown knees not so much. That's Poz, Leodis, Donte, Butler and Schouman off the top of my head. It's a violent, unforgiving way to make a living.
BillsZubaz Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 The Giants had like 9 starters out last week. They must run a soft camp and have a crappy training staff. Or this is pro football and players get hurt. The Bills have been at the top of the league for upwards of 4 years at this point in terms of players on IR and injuries. NOT a coincidence...sorry...
Cookiemonster Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 Conditioning, or lack thereof, is usually evidenced by muscle injuries. Broken bones and blown knees not so much. That's Poz, Leodis, Donte, Butler and Schouman off the top of my head. It's a violent, unforgiving way to make a living. Very good point, I was thinking the exact same thing, no amount of strenght and conditioning is going to prevent a broken bone. But it does seem that we are experiencing more injuries in general.
mabden Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 i know every NFL team must deal with injuries but it is week 4 & we could be missing up to 8 opening day starters, i know that r coaching is terrible, but could all those soft practices wand non hitting training camps just leaving our players to be more prone to getting hurt. Better strenght and conditioning training would reduce injuries (especially to our OL with back injuries) and it would help with the teams ability to finish games. I remember in the 2-14 seasons, no matter how well the team played in the first 1/2 or 3/4 of the game, they would lose it in the fourth quarter. One reason was conditioning. Once Levy came in and hired Rusty Jones, the Bills played the whole game with energy and injuries were way down. Losing Jones was a big mistake IMHO!
BillsZubaz Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 Very good point, I was thinking the exact same thing, no amount of strenght and conditioning isgoing to prevent a broken bone. But it does seem that we are experiencing more injuries in general. You are completely right on this point. Although proper weight training can help strengthen bones. There is no way to prevent these types of injuries. But you are omitting the equal number of players with muscular injuries: Scott- High ankle sprain Williams- Groin McCargo- Calf Nelson- Sprained shoulder Bell- Groin It just seems like every year we are getting destroyed by injuries...I'm only looking for answers...beyond "its a violent sport (which is true).
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 The Bills have been at the top of the league for upwards of 4 years at this point in terms of players on IR and injuries. NOT a coincidence...sorry... How about some facts or a link.
Endless Ike Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 Very good point, I was thinking the exact same thing, no amount of strenght and conditioning isgoing to prevent a broken bone. But it does seem that we are experiencing more injuries in general. This isn't true...weight lifting strengthens bones.
zow2 Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 The Giants had like 9 starters out last week. They must run a soft camp and have a crappy training staff. Or this is pro football and players get hurt. Last i saw the Eagles have been playing without their two best players (McNabb and Westbrook) plus a starting O-lineman,,,,and they have rung up 94 points in 3 games. I'm sure they have other injuries too. It sucks the Bills are so brittle but no one pays attention to the other NFL teams that are racked w/ injuries. There are tons of them. The good teams still get by.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 The players are just given soft drinks, and don't drink enough milk, hence all the broken bones. Dick Jauron's to blame; he's lactose intolerant.
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 Last i saw the Eagles have been playing without their two best players (McNabb and Westbrook) plus a starting O-lineman,,,,and they have rung up 94 points in 3 games. I'm sure they have other injuries too. It sucks the Bills are so brittle but no one pays attention to the other NFL teams that are racked w/ injuries. There are tons of them. The good teams still get by. The Eagles' victories have come against teams that are a combined 0-6.
PromoTheRobot Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 The Bills have been at the top of the league for upwards of 4 years at this point in terms of players on IR and injuries. NOT a coincidence...sorry... Prove it. PTR
PromoTheRobot Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 This isn't true...weight lifting strengthens bones. So what do the Bills do in the training room? Play cards? Maybe Sally Field should hand out Boniva pills? PTR
Tommy Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 So what do the Bills do in the training room? Play cards? Maybe Sally Field should hand out Boniva pills? PTR lol
billybob Posted October 2, 2009 Posted October 2, 2009 It would be interesting to know how much the Bills use machines and muscle isolation exercises as compared to whole body exercises like, sand bags, kettlebells, Olympic lifts, sled pushing and pulling, hill sprints, tire lifts, heavy bag punching and kicking and so on- the reason people went to machines is it seemed like a good way to limit injuries in training but sports are dynamic and for the last ten+ years more trainers have been going in the direction of trying to build strength and conditioning using full body exercises that build strength in all different angles and directions.
spartacus Posted October 3, 2009 Posted October 3, 2009 Very good point, I was thinking the exact same thing, no amount of strenght and conditioning isgoing to prevent a broken bone. But it does seem that we are experiencing more injuries in general. Certain performance enhancing drugs have the side effect of making bones more brittle. Combined with soft training camps, lack of hitting to get in game shape and piss poor training habits could be contributing to the rash of injuries (every year that Dick has been in charge)
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