R. Rich Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 The good thing was I got to watch the game @ Jimmy's Tavern in Herndon VA w/ over 300 rabid Bills fans. I got to meet Scott Norwood and Charley Taylor (Redskins WR, Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of '84, former NFL all time leading receiver); both were very pleasant and took the time to chat w/ anyone. The bad thing was that I got to watch the game. Ugh! I give the Saints props for balancing out their offense to the point where they were able to pull away from the Bills late in the game by wearing down the defense. A lot of that wearing down was due to the inept offense. Alex Van Pelt just had no answer for Gregg Williams' defense in this one. Trent Edwards started off okay, doing a decent job of rolling out to avoid the rush and actually having a few moments where he read the defense pre snap and adjusted. But, as the game wore on, his performance just tanked. He forced passes into tight coverage (as he did on the INT), overthrew a wide open Terrell Owens on a play that probably would've gone for a score, and regressed back to his old self, looking to check down far too often. My big question for Van Pelt would be why did you not do more to get Fred Jackson going in this game, especially when the game's outcome was still in question and he was doing a good job of picking up tough yards? No, instead, you wait 'til after the defense wears down to get Jackson more carries. Sigh. What fun this week is going to be for the coaches, huh? I am reminded of a tune from Prince, actually it's the title of his 4th album........Controversy. I think the Bills were a bit too worried 'bout establishing some sort of passing game and also trying to get the wideouts more involved. Well, Josh Reed did make some gutsy plays, but the outside guys just didn't get it done. Lee Evans had another bad experience over the middle (maybe the Bills should just resign to keeping him to the outside to run his beloved "9" routes) while Terrell Owens missed the opportunity to come up w/ the catch that became an INT. Now, on that one, grant you, Edwards threw a bad pass. But that is still one Owens can come up w/ and has come up w/ in the past. Is it time now for the drama that everyone from some Bills fans to most of the media is craving for? I hope not, but I'm sure that people will work hard to engineer it. The offensive line. You ain't kiddin', "offensive"! What a putrid performance by all. Eric Wood looked awful; it was almost like that was a hazing instead of a game. Andy Levitre also looked bad (Sedrick Ellis made him look particularly bad on the one play that resulted in a sack). The tackles? Well, Jon Scott wasn't as bad as Demetrius Bell, but niether guy could be proud of their performance. Too many penalties and not enough protection. Granted, they did have to face a very good pair of pass rushers in Charles Grant and Will Smith, so for that reason I am not going to condemn either guy. Let's just say they got worked over by some very good players yesterday. I thought the D line played well. Ryan Denney and Chris Kelsay had some nice plays in this game, and that's not to mention the solid performance of Aaron Schobel. Inside, I thought Kyle Williams continued to show that he's not as bad as many on this board claim he is while Marcus Stroud was good also. One thing w/ Stroud that I've noticed though is the fact that he can be taken out on plays going away from him. Stretch runs, misdirection plays, any of the stuff that calls for him to be doubled and kicked to a particular side, he has problems beating those double teams. When they try to double him on runs going inside, he eats that up like candy. The outside stuff is a problem though, and it allows for the O linemen to get to the 2nd level and make the blocks to spring the RBs. On Thomas' first TD run in the 4th, the block that FB Heath Evans (he had a very good game) made was certainly key to Thomas getting sprung, but the way Stroud was doubled allowed for the Saints line to get on the LBs, so that when Evans made his block, Thomas had a gaping hole to hit. I thought the linebackers struggled in terms of getting to the outside to stop the run, but also showed the usual deficiencies in terms of pass coverage (Jeremy Shockey got the better of Kawika Mitchell on a play that went for a big gain). W/ the D line eventually wearing down late, the LBs just got manhandled as the Saints guys got to 'em to clear the way for the running game. As for the secondary, Leodis McKelvin got hurt early and didn't return, but Drayton Florence did a very good job of replacing him. Also, Terrence McGee did a good job after being beat deep on the Saints' opening TD drive. Was that Donte Whitner coming over to knock down a potential TD play later in the game? Really? Whitner??? Also, those of you who blasted the drafting of Reggie Corner last year, you should be grateful that he's in the lineup. He provided some nice coverage out there, and was a big part of why Drew Brees was held to under 200 yards passing for the first time in 23 games. Take a bow, secondary. You earned it. Special teams came up w/ the play of the game for the Bills in Denney's TD on the fake. But, there were also the penalties that are becoming far too common w/ this group in 2009. Bobby April needs to light a fire under the special teams and get this stuff corrected. Now. Last but certainly not least, the coaching. Aaaaaaargh!! Not only do you not challenge the Josh Reed play, but then you PUNT on the next play instead of going for 4th and 1? It seems like there's a critical point in many Bills games where the tide turns, usually due in part to a poor coaching decision. This could have been the point yesterday. You showed no faith in your offense, and you put your defense, which by then was exhausted, right back on the field. And, the Bills are still having to waste timeouts. How many more years does Jauron need to get the team to the point where they can run the offense in clutch situations w/out the need to waste timeouts? Sad thing is, he'll probably get as many of those years as he needs. Okay, so the Bills now sit @ 1-2. As G. Host said to me @ the end of the game yesterday, "does that mean we're as good as the Steelers?" I don't know if I'd go that far, but both teams have the same record @ this point in the year. Things can continue to slide downward, or they can go upward. It's up to the coaches to right the ship. Good luck, and Go Bills!
R. Rich Posted September 28, 2009 Author Posted September 28, 2009 Nice post, Rich. But meaningless, nonetheless.
Guest dog14787 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 The good thing was I got to watch the game @ Jimmy's Tavern in Herndon VA w/ over 300 rabid Bills fans. I got to meet Scott Norwood and Charley Taylor (Redskins WR, Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of '84, former NFL all time leading receiver); both were very pleasant and took the time to chat w/ anyone. The bad thing was that I got to watch the game. Ugh! I give the Saints props for balancing out their offense to the point where they were able to pull away from the Bills late in the game by wearing down the defense. A lot of that wearing down was due to the inept offense. Alex Van Pelt just had no answer for Gregg Williams' defense in this one. Trent Edwards started off okay, doing a decent job of rolling out to avoid the rush and actually having a few moments where he read the defense pre snap and adjusted. But, as the game wore on, his performance just tanked. He forced passes into tight coverage (as he did on the INT), overthrew a wide open Terrell Owens on a play that probably would've gone for a score, and regressed back to his old self, looking to check down far too often. My big question for Van Pelt would be why did you not do more to get Fred Jackson going in this game, especially when the game's outcome was still in question and he was doing a good job of picking up tough yards? No, instead, you wait 'til after the defense wears down to get Jackson more carries. Sigh. What fun this week is going to be for the coaches, huh? I am reminded of a tune from Prince, actually it's the title of his 4th album........Controversy. I think the Bills were a bit too worried 'bout establishing some sort of passing game and also trying to get the wideouts more involved. Well, Josh Reed did make some gutsy plays, but the outside guys just didn't get it done. Lee Evans had another bad experience over the middle (maybe the Bills should just resign to keeping him to the outside to run his beloved "9" routes) while Terrell Owens missed the opportunity to come up w/ the catch that became an INT. Now, on that one, grant you, Edwards threw a bad pass. But that is still one Owens can come up w/ and has come up w/ in the past. Is it time now for the drama that everyone from some Bills fans to most of the media is craving for? I hope not, but I'm sure that people will work hard to engineer it. The offensive line. You ain't kiddin', "offensive"! What a putrid performance by all. Eric Wood looked awful; it was almost like that was a hazing instead of a game. Andy Levitre also looked bad (Sedrick Ellis made him look particularly bad on the one play that resulted in a sack). The tackles? Well, Jon Scott wasn't as bad as Demetrius Bell, but niether guy could be proud of their performance. Too many penalties and not enough protection. Granted, they did have to face a very good pair of pass rushers in Charles Grant and Will Smith, so for that reason I am not going to condemn either guy. Let's just say they got worked over by some very good players yesterday. I thought the D line played well. Ryan Denney and Chris Kelsay had some nice plays in this game, and that's not to mention the solid performance of Aaron Schobel. Inside, I thought Kyle Williams continued to show that he's not as bad as many on this board claim he is while Marcus Stroud was good also. One thing w/ Stroud that I've noticed though is the fact that he can be taken out on plays going away from him. Stretch runs, misdirection plays, any of the stuff that calls for him to be doubled and kicked to a particular side, he has problems beating those double teams. When they try to double him on runs going inside, he eats that up like candy. The outside stuff is a problem though, and it allows for the O linemen to get to the 2nd level and make the blocks to spring the RBs. On Thomas' first TD run in the 4th, the block that FB Heath Evans (he had a very good game) made was certainly key to Thomas getting sprung, but the way Stroud was doubled allowed for the Saints line to get on the LBs, so that when Evans made his block, Thomas had a gaping hole to hit. I thought the linebackers struggled in terms of getting to the outside to stop the run, but also showed the usual deficiencies in terms of pass coverage (Jeremy Shockey got the better of Kawika Mitchell on a play that went for a big gain). W/ the D line eventually wearing down late, the LBs just got manhandled as the Saints guys got to 'em to clear the way for the running game. As for the secondary, Leodis McKelvin got hurt early and didn't return, but Drayton Florence did a very good job of replacing him. Also, Terrence McGee did a good job after being beat deep on the Saints' opening TD drive. Was that Donte Whitner coming over to knock down a potential TD play later in the game? Really? Whitner??? Also, those of you who blasted the drafting of Reggie Corner last year, you should be grateful that he's in the lineup. He provided some nice coverage out there, and was a big part of why Drew Brees was held to under 200 yards passing for the first time in 23 games. Take a bow, secondary. You earned it. Special teams came up w/ the play of the game for the Bills in Denney's TD on the fake. But, there were also the penalties that are becoming far too common w/ this group in 2009. Bobby April needs to light a fire under the special teams and get this stuff corrected. Now. Last but certainly not least, the coaching. Aaaaaaargh!! Not only do you not challenge the Josh Reed play, but then you PUNT on the next play instead of going for 4th and 1? It seems like there's a critical point in many Bills games where the tide turns, usually due in part to a poor coaching decision. This could have been the point yesterday. You showed no faith in your offense, and you put your defense, which by then was exhausted, right back on the field. And, the Bills are still having to waste timeouts. How many more years does Jauron need to get the team to the point where they can run the offense in clutch situations w/out the need to waste timeouts? Sad thing is, he'll probably get as many of those years as he needs. Okay, so the Bills now sit @ 1-2. As G. Host said to me @ the end of the game yesterday, "does that mean we're as good as the Steelers?" I don't know if I'd go that far, but both teams have the same record @ this point in the year. Things can continue to slide downward, or they can go upward. It's up to the coaches to right the ship. Good luck, and Go Bills! If our D playing well means allowing the Saints to Rush for 222 yards I can only imagine what the Fish are going to do to us.
R. Rich Posted September 28, 2009 Author Posted September 28, 2009 If our D playing well means allowing the Saints to Rush for 222 yards I can only imagine what the Fish are going to do to us. How many of those 222 rushing yards were in the last 10 minutes of the game? Up to that point, the D had a solid outing. They were able to generate enough pressure on Brees to limit his effectiveness and they were also able to neutralize the Saints' running game. After 50 minutes of giving 'Nawlins all it could handle while getting very little support from the offense, they just simply wore down.
Guest dog14787 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 How many of those 222 rushing yards were in the last 10 minutes of the game? Up to that point, the D had a solid outing. They were able to generate enough pressure on Brees to limit his effectiveness and they were also able to neutralize the Saints' running game. After 50 minutes of giving 'Nawlins all it could handle while getting very little support from the offense, they just simply wore down. Both QB's were having a bad day throwing the ball and their offense beat our defense on the ground. I knew going in we had to stop the run and we did not.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 I would have given ol' Scotty a swift kick to the groin with a complimentary "Wide Right!!" But no, I'm not bitter or anything.
bizell Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Both QB's were having a bad day throwing the ball and their offense beat our defense on the ground. I knew going in we had to stop the run and we did not. our offense scored 0 points that game. we had a 33-26 time of possession deficit. we were 2-14 on third downs. until the 4th quarter, their rush offense was shut down.
stuckincincy Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 1. regressed back to his old self, looking to check down far too often. 2. My big question for Van Pelt would be why did you not do more to get Fred Jackson going in this game, especially when the game's outcome was still in question and he was doing a good job of picking up tough yards? 3. The offensive line. 4. I thought the linebackers struggled in terms of getting to the outside to stop the run, but also showed the usual deficiencies in terms of pass coverage 5. Last but certainly not least, the coaching. Aaaaaaargh!! ...It's up to the coaches to right the ship. Good luck, and Go Bills! 1. 3rd, 4th guy in the progression is usually open - short. Since TE goes to 'em a lot, perhaps put Roscoe in more, and let him do his juke 'n jive for YAC. 2. AVP was channeling several O.C.s - notably the arch idiot Bob Bratkowski. 3. What to do...go under center because of a spate of bad snaps and then get flattened? Keep up the shotgun formations, giving defenders a nice view of the action? Beats me... 4. They might try drafting more LBs in the top 3 rounds. Someday. 5. Yep. Speaking of coaching, Tomlin&Co. got greedy and left points on the board as well as not noticing the CIN 2nd half adjustment on Parker, IMO. Nice 4th qtr. by the opposition, but PIT let them back in it.
Guest dog14787 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 our offense scored 0 points that game. we had a 33-26 time of possession deficit. we were 2-14 on third downs. until the 4th quarter, their rush offense was shut down. The Saints rushed for 222 yards and 3 TDs on the ground period. I'm not talking about the Bills offenses inability to score, when the game was on the line and it counted our D gave up huge chunks of yardage on the ground. Mean while their defense stopped our rushing and passing game. If it makes you guys feel better, their defense outplayed ours, there is that better.
Ramius Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 The Saints rushed for 222 yards and 3 TDs on the ground period. I'm not talking about the Bills offenses inability to score, when the game was on the line and it counted our D gave up huge chunks of yardage on the ground. Mean while their defense stopped our rushing and passing game. If it makes you guys feel better, their defense outplayed ours, there is that better. Our defense held them in check until the 4th quarter. Is it too much to ask our offense to put up more than 0 points? Had our offense actually put the ball in the endzone, or even stayed on the field longer, our defense would not have been gassed at the end of the game. Then they piled up the rushing yards. The defense did their job. They held NO to 10 points through 50 minutes. Not their fault the offense can't score.
dave mcbride Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 The good thing was I got to watch the game @ Jimmy's Tavern in Herndon VA w/ over 300 rabid Bills fans. I got to meet Scott Norwood and Charley Taylor (Redskins WR, Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of '84, former NFL all time leading receiver); both were very pleasant and took the time to chat w/ anyone. The bad thing was that I got to watch the game. Ugh! I give the Saints props for balancing out their offense to the point where they were able to pull away from the Bills late in the game by wearing down the defense. A lot of that wearing down was due to the inept offense. Alex Van Pelt just had no answer for Gregg Williams' defense in this one. Trent Edwards started off okay, doing a decent job of rolling out to avoid the rush and actually having a few moments where he read the defense pre snap and adjusted. But, as the game wore on, his performance just tanked. He forced passes into tight coverage (as he did on the INT), overthrew a wide open Terrell Owens on a play that probably would've gone for a score, and regressed back to his old self, looking to check down far too often. My big question for Van Pelt would be why did you not do more to get Fred Jackson going in this game, especially when the game's outcome was still in question and he was doing a good job of picking up tough yards? No, instead, you wait 'til after the defense wears down to get Jackson more carries. Sigh. What fun this week is going to be for the coaches, huh? I am reminded of a tune from Prince, actually it's the title of his 4th album........Controversy. I think the Bills were a bit too worried 'bout establishing some sort of passing game and also trying to get the wideouts more involved. Well, Josh Reed did make some gutsy plays, but the outside guys just didn't get it done. Lee Evans had another bad experience over the middle (maybe the Bills should just resign to keeping him to the outside to run his beloved "9" routes) while Terrell Owens missed the opportunity to come up w/ the catch that became an INT. Now, on that one, grant you, Edwards threw a bad pass. But that is still one Owens can come up w/ and has come up w/ in the past. Is it time now for the drama that everyone from some Bills fans to most of the media is craving for? I hope not, but I'm sure that people will work hard to engineer it. The offensive line. You ain't kiddin', "offensive"! What a putrid performance by all. Eric Wood looked awful; it was almost like that was a hazing instead of a game. Andy Levitre also looked bad (Sedrick Ellis made him look particularly bad on the one play that resulted in a sack). The tackles? Well, Jon Scott wasn't as bad as Demetrius Bell, but niether guy could be proud of their performance. Too many penalties and not enough protection. Granted, they did have to face a very good pair of pass rushers in Charles Grant and Will Smith, so for that reason I am not going to condemn either guy. Let's just say they got worked over by some very good players yesterday. I thought the D line played well. Ryan Denney and Chris Kelsay had some nice plays in this game, and that's not to mention the solid performance of Aaron Schobel. Inside, I thought Kyle Williams continued to show that he's not as bad as many on this board claim he is while Marcus Stroud was good also. One thing w/ Stroud that I've noticed though is the fact that he can be taken out on plays going away from him. Stretch runs, misdirection plays, any of the stuff that calls for him to be doubled and kicked to a particular side, he has problems beating those double teams. When they try to double him on runs going inside, he eats that up like candy. The outside stuff is a problem though, and it allows for the O linemen to get to the 2nd level and make the blocks to spring the RBs. On Thomas' first TD run in the 4th, the block that FB Heath Evans (he had a very good game) made was certainly key to Thomas getting sprung, but the way Stroud was doubled allowed for the Saints line to get on the LBs, so that when Evans made his block, Thomas had a gaping hole to hit. I thought the linebackers struggled in terms of getting to the outside to stop the run, but also showed the usual deficiencies in terms of pass coverage (Jeremy Shockey got the better of Kawika Mitchell on a play that went for a big gain). W/ the D line eventually wearing down late, the LBs just got manhandled as the Saints guys got to 'em to clear the way for the running game. As for the secondary, Leodis McKelvin got hurt early and didn't return, but Drayton Florence did a very good job of replacing him. Also, Terrence McGee did a good job after being beat deep on the Saints' opening TD drive. Was that Donte Whitner coming over to knock down a potential TD play later in the game? Really? Whitner??? Also, those of you who blasted the drafting of Reggie Corner last year, you should be grateful that he's in the lineup. He provided some nice coverage out there, and was a big part of why Drew Brees was held to under 200 yards passing for the first time in 23 games. Take a bow, secondary. You earned it. Special teams came up w/ the play of the game for the Bills in Denney's TD on the fake. But, there were also the penalties that are becoming far too common w/ this group in 2009. Bobby April needs to light a fire under the special teams and get this stuff corrected. Now. Last but certainly not least, the coaching. Aaaaaaargh!! Not only do you not challenge the Josh Reed play, but then you PUNT on the next play instead of going for 4th and 1? It seems like there's a critical point in many Bills games where the tide turns, usually due in part to a poor coaching decision. This could have been the point yesterday. You showed no faith in your offense, and you put your defense, which by then was exhausted, right back on the field. And, the Bills are still having to waste timeouts. How many more years does Jauron need to get the team to the point where they can run the offense in clutch situations w/out the need to waste timeouts? Sad thing is, he'll probably get as many of those years as he needs. Okay, so the Bills now sit @ 1-2. As G. Host said to me @ the end of the game yesterday, "does that mean we're as good as the Steelers?" I don't know if I'd go that far, but both teams have the same record @ this point in the year. Things can continue to slide downward, or they can go upward. It's up to the coaches to right the ship. Good luck, and Go Bills! Great post, but Reed's elbow very obviously hit the ground a yard before the first down marker. An elbow is the equivalent of a knee -- if it hits the ground, you're down.
Guest dog14787 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Our defense held them in check until the 4th quarter. Is it too much to ask our offense to put up more than 0 points? Had our offense actually put the ball in the endzone, or even stayed on the field longer, our defense would not have been gassed at the end of the game. Then they piled up the rushing yards. The defense did their job. They held NO to 10 points through 50 minutes. Not their fault the offense can't score. The game is a full 60 minutes, what do you want me to say they played good for 50 minutes, OK, the defense played good for 50 minutes, then like crap for 10. The Saints defense outplayed our defense, the Saints QB outplayed our QB, and the Saints RB's outplayed our RB's. The saints coaching staff outsmarted the Bills coaching staff. Sorry, I'm not going to say the defense played well in a game when they gave up 222 yards and 3 TD's on the ground.
Ramius Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 The game is a full 60 minutes, what do you want me to say they played good for 50 minutes, OK, the defense played good for 50 minutes, then like crap for 10. The Saints defense outplayed our defense, the Saints QB outplayed our QB, and the Saints RB's outplayed our RB's. The saints coaching staff outsmarted the Bills coaching staff. Sorry, I'm not going to say the defense played well in a game when they gave up 222 yards and 3 TD's on the ground. The defense kept this team in the game. If the defense played bad, it would have been 41-7 in the 4th, not 10-7. Please feel free to explain how the defense played bad, yet the score was 10-7 in the 4th.
Guest dog14787 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 The defense kept this team in the game. If the defense played bad, it would have been 41-7 in the 4th, not 10-7. Please feel free to explain how the defense played bad, yet the score was 10-7 in the 4th. Our stellar defense is now ranked 27th in the league giving up over 390 yards a game.
thebandit27 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 The game is a full 60 minutes, what do you want me to say they played good for 50 minutes, OK, the defense played good for 50 minutes, then like crap for 10. The Saints defense outplayed our defense, the Saints QB outplayed our QB, and the Saints RB's outplayed our RB's. The saints coaching staff outsmarted the Bills coaching staff. Sorry, I'm not going to say the defense played well in a game when they gave up 222 yards and 3 TD's on the ground. You don't have to say it, just realize the relevance of holding the #1 offense in football (scoring 45 and 48 points in the 2 games entering Sunday) to 10 points through 3+ quarters, 3 of which came off the special teams' turnover. Also realize that Buffalo gained not a single first down the entire 4th quarter, instead going 3-and-out 5 consecutive possessions, think that might have taken a toll on the defense late in the game? By contrast, New Orleans gained 6 first downs in the 4th quarter alone (2 penalties, 3 rushing, 1 passing). You can blame the defense all you like, but in my opinion, placing the blame for this loss on the unit that held the best offense in football to 10 points for 50 minutes of football seems wrong. Especially when your offense scores zero points and fails to gain a single first down in the pivotal moments of the game.
aussiew Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Aaaaaaargh!! Not only do you not challenge the Josh Reed play, but then you PUNT on the next play instead of going for 4th and 1? It seems like there's a critical point in many Bills games where the tide turns, usually due in part to a poor coaching decision. This could have been the point yesterday. You showed no faith in your offense, and you put your defense, which by then was exhausted, right back on the field. Looks like you and I watched the same football game yesterday Rich. My jury is still out on TO, but from where I was sitting - it looked like at least 3 of the 4 throws to him were bad so I'd have to blame this one on the QB. The defence was exhusted in Q4.
Guest dog14787 Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 You don't have to say it, just realize the relevance of holding the #1 offense in football (scoring 45 and 48 points in the 2 games entering Sunday) to 10 points through 3+ quarters, 3 of which came off the special teams' turnover. Also realize that Buffalo gained not a single first down the entire 4th quarter, instead going 3-and-out 5 consecutive possessions, think that might have taken a toll on the defense late in the game? By contrast, New Orleans gained 6 first downs in the 4th quarter alone (2 penalties, 3 rushing, 1 passing). You can blame the defense all you like, but in my opinion, placing the blame for this loss on the unit that held the best offense in football to 10 points for 50 minutes of football seems wrong. Especially when your offense scores zero points and fails to gain a single first down in the pivotal moments of the game. We are 1-2 and our D is one of the worse ranked defenses in the league, if it helps to say the defense played well for you guys then keep telling yourselves as much, personally I get zero comfort in it.
Beerball Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Looks like you and I watched the same football game yesterday Rich. My jury is still out on TO, but from where I was sitting - it looked like at least 3 of the 4 throws to him were bad so I'd have to blame this one on the QB. The defence was exhusted in Q4. I am really happy I did not venture out to join you folks yesterday. The out to Owens (4th quarter I think) is a microcosm of our QBs inability to get the job done. It was thrown late and it was thrown inaccurately. Edwards is OK hitting a stationary target...slot receiver or TE but he cannot anticipate throws and hit a breaking target consistently. Personally I doubt he'll ever get that ability. 4th down...checkdown to Jackson sums up the entire day. RR--hope you enjoyed the wings and Beef On Weck.
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