Chalkie Gerzowski Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Posts like these are making me 2nd guess if we really are the best fans in the league. 2nd guess all you like...one thing is for certain...Bills fans win the Super Bowl every year for FELLATING the Bills players. Where did some of you go to get your Stepford indoctrination anyway? Is it a non-credit course that Russ Brandon teaches across the street at ECC South?
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 2nd guess all you like...one thing is for certain...Bills fans win the Super Bowl every year for FELLATING the Bills players. Where did some of you go to get your Stepford indoctrination anyway? Is it a non-credit course that Russ Brandon teaches across the street at ECC South? Or I have a life and realize that it is a game. Some of you forget you're not actually on the football team. "Player X screwed up. Let's boo him, trash his house, and throw stuff at his family. That'll learn'em"
Lori Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 The doghouse has a swinging door for now...one more gaffe and a padlock can be thrown on it. I also don't remember a lot of backlash aimed at Marshawn Lynch and his driving ability around Chippewa. Eventually people poked fun at a chubby Canadian girl being in the wrong place at the wrong time. And others called them out for doing so, just like we are here. So what's your point? Some people here are !@#$s? Stipulated.
Gordio Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 He made a freaking mistake. It's been almost a week. Move on. You're perfect at work??? He is a hell of a young football who has made a ton more big plays than mistakes. Seriously (and I do like your posts) but you're comign across very bitter. It's a game you watch for entertainment. Stop living your life through it. I've met and talked with McKelvin. nicest dude ever and loves being a Bill. But my god, a bunch of you are comign across as straight richards. Look in the mirror first. Fair enough, I still think it was a BS move to press charges. Just my opinion.
Offside Number 76 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong, but all that was spray painted was the grass, right? In a week and one grass cutting (which would have been done anyway) the paint will be gone. I do not agree with what these kids did, but to have them get criminal records out of this is a little extensive. Make THEM cut the grass when it is needed. I'm sure McKelvin's lawn is quite large. The physical repercussion of cutting the grass (with a push mower) should be enough to teach these kids a lesson. Exactly. I know I did worse at that age, and I'll bet a lot of other people here did, too. It's part of growing up. They've probably learned their lesson already just through the fear they're experiencing; give them some consequences (short of a criminal record) to go with that, and they'll turn out just fine.
OnTheRocks Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 If some kid(s) did that to my lawn - I would press charges. I wouldn't hesitate. I sat in court about a month ago - awaiting a small claims case I was involved in....and out of the 20 or so cases that were called - I would say 50% were minor traffic violations - 25% were not so minor traffic violations and the remaining 25% were juvies - that were busted for this kind of nonsense. There wasn't a single one of them that addressed the court with any respect, and only one of them appeared with a parent. There are a lot of good kids that make one bad mistake and need this kind of experience to prevent them from ever making the mistake again...and their are punk wannabes that these kind of offenses are just the beginning of a life of trouble.....either way.....it is best to address it and let them deal with the consequences. It isn't like these kids are going up the river to do 15 years of hard time. At best it will be a slap on the wrist with probation at worst it will a fine and maybe community service.
Cookiemonster Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I once had a couple of teenagers steal my trampoline right out of my front yard. Apparently someone we knew, that we mentioned it to, saw them, they had the front leg in the back of a very small hatchback, and the back three were dragging on the road, with sparks flying all over the place. They gave us the direction, and my wife headed out to a trailer park in that area, and sure enough, there were six kids in the back of a run-down trailer bouncing their asses off. They dragged the thing about four miles like that. We turned it over to the State Police, why they couldn't solve it in the first place is beyond me. They confronted them, and it was ours, I asked for restitution only, and didn't press charges, We never got paid, I think one parent sent us a check for half, and it bounced. So, maybe it is better to stick it to them. ****, we pull something like this when I was a kid growing up in Buffalo man, there wouldn't be any punishment worse then what my parents might do to us, and that would be on top of any punishment that society deemed. But a lot of parents just aren't like that anymore. As far as the reference to the trailer park, sorry if I offended anyone, but I once lived in one, in a park, and the only thing that I can say about that, is, that you can live in a Trailer, and still not be trailer trash.
buffaloaggie Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Or I have a life and realize that it is a game. Some of you forget you're not actually on the football team. "Player X screwed up. Let's boo him, trash his house, and throw stuff at his family. That'll learn'em" We all know what the kids did was stupid. We all know what Leodis did on the football field was stupid. They both need to learn a lesson. The legal system will take care of the kids (though I hope it's nothing more than a fine and community service) and McKelvin will learn from the coaches when not to fight for extra yards. Looking forward to the Bills whipping the Bucs!
RyanC883 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 It's the right decision. If he doesn't press charges, it sends the message to the public that this sort of conduct is acceptable, which of course it is not. The laws are there for a reason - when somebody breaks the law, they should be held accountable. If these are otherwise good kids who just got caught up in the moment and did a stupid thing, then the whole process of having to go through being charged/convicted/punished might just scare some sense into them. Exactly.
don4593 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I dont know if this has been posted yet, I havent combed through this post, but his agent just informed the media that he will not press charges.
Doc Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 What did certain Bills player learn by "going through the system" and getting "a slap on the wrist"? Did it prevent another crime (within a year or so?)? What crime did Lynch commit again, WEO, prior to his egregious crime of having a gun in the trunk of his car? Exercising his 5th amendment rights? Yeah, HUGE crime there. Nice try. Leo would be a credible "victim" if he demonstrated appropriate outrage immediately after grass blade genocide was committed on his lawn--and pressed charges. But he didn't. Now he's decided to press charges on these two criminal masterminds?? One would think it wouldn't be possible to fumble this decision.... Again I am entertained by all the posters who initially gave him props for NOT pressing charges who are now praising his decision to nail these sick sick bastards. It's just innocent teenage hijinks. Spray painting "niggar" (sic) on a lawn is perfectly acceptable behavior. Now, if some black kids had spray painted "cracker" on Trent's lawn after any number of crap games last year...
Pneumonic Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 It's the right decision. If he doesn't press charges, it sends the message to the public that this sort of conduct is acceptable, which of course it is not. The laws are there for a reason - when somebody breaks the law, they should be held accountable. If these are otherwise good kids who just got caught up in the moment and did a stupid thing, then the whole process of having to go through being charged/convicted/punished might just scare some sense into them. Best answer and response.
Gordio Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 What crime did Lynch commit again, WEO, prior to his egregious crime of having a gun in the trunk of his car? Exercising his 5th amendment rights? Yeah, HUGE crime there. It's just innocent teenage hijinks. Spray painting "niggar" (sic) on a lawn is perfectly acceptable behavior. Now, if some black kids had spray painted "cracker" on Trent's lawn after any number of crap games last year... That is not what they spray painted but why let facts get in the way of a good rant. Anyways, I guess he is not pressing charges which is the right thing to do imo.
Captain Caveman Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 What crime did Lynch commit again, WEO, prior to his egregious crime of having a gun in the trunk of his car? Exercising his 5th amendment rights? Yeah, HUGE crime there. Hitting someone and driving away is a crime. Marshawn did hit someone, and he did drive away. Or at minimum, someone driving his car hit someone and drove away. Just because someone has the right to not incriminate themselves does not mean that they did not commit a crime. If you're going to dispute that this is what happened, I don't want to argue with you, it's not worth the effort. It's just innocent teenage hijinks. Spray painting "niggar" (sic) on a lawn is perfectly acceptable behavior. Now, if some black kids had spray painted "cracker" on Trent's lawn after any number of crap games last year... There was speculation on this board about what was painted on his lawn; what's come out since then is that it was not a racial epithet, but basically said: "Learn to take a knee" with the score of the game, and a graphic depiction of the male anatomy.
Doc Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Hitting someone and driving away is a crime. Marshawn did hit someone, and he did drive away. Or at minimum, someone driving his car hit someone and drove away. Just because someone has the right to not incriminate themselves does not mean that they did not commit a crime. If you're going to dispute that this is what happened, I don't want to argue with you, it's not worth the effort. The incident was investigated fully and there was no evidence that Lynch knew he hit the woman. I agree that he did hit her, but unwittingly, and thus unwittingly left the scene, and thus got the traffic infraction. I guess that could be called a "crime." There was speculation on this board about what was painted on his lawn; what's come out since then is that it was not a racial epithet, but basically said: "Learn to take a knee" with the score of the game, and a graphic depiction of the male anatomy. My mistake on what was actually written, but it's still inappropriate. If this were done all the time, there'd be a lot of players' lawns messed-up after games. But it's good that the DA is looking to press charges while McKelvin is not.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 What crime did Lynch commit again, WEO, prior to his egregious crime of having a gun in the trunk of his car? Exercising his 5th amendment rights? Yeah, HUGE crime there. It's just innocent teenage hijinks. Spray painting "niggar" (sic) on a lawn is perfectly acceptable behavior. Now, if some black kids had spray painted "cracker" on Trent's lawn after any number of crap games last year... I get your response and generally agree with it, but why did you automatically job to this word as being spray painted on his lawn? Agreed this would be an entirely different ballgame (and I don't fault him for pressing charges even though it was much less seriously than thought) but it's kinda sad you made this jump to assume.
Doc Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I get your response and generally agree with it, but why did you automatically job to this word as being spray painted on his lawn? Agreed this would be an entirely different ballgame (and I don't fault him for pressing charges even though it was much less seriously than thought) but it's kinda sad you made this jump to assume. I heard what was spray-painted was offensive and saw what looked like "gar" on the lawn, as someone else pointed out in one of the threads.
todd Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I am quite sure you do not need to spend money in the courts to teach these kids a lesson. Community service goes a long way. I dont know about you but the parents can have a bigger impact than a court room. Guess your dad never whipped your butt for bonehead actions. Don't make boneheaded assumptions about my upbringing, fool.
BuffFromBuffalo Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Get off your high horse John. These kids did a harmless prank after Mcdipshit cost the Bills the game by his lack of game awareness & stupidity. Then he comes out openly says I do not want anybody arrested for this. I could almost see pressing charges if it was some middle age 35 year old who did this. These kids are just in high school & probably hit dad's liquor cabinet too hard that night & thought it would be funny. It is ironic but I do not remember the public outcries for that lady that Lynch ran down on the chip strip. F*ck Mckelvin, I just lost what little respect I had for him. & if you think these kids should be punished to the full extent of the law then by the same token Lynch should of been suspended for the whole season, not just three games for his actions were 100xs worse then what these 16 year old kids did. I agree with you Gordio. Any time an NFL player pulls a stupid stunt (Vick, Burress, Lynch, Little, Dale Carter, Michael Irving, and on and on....) all we hear is they deserve a second chance after a less than normal person fine or sentence. So these two KIDS do something stupid and now everyone starts talking out of the other side of their mouth. McKelvin should forgive them and bring them to the Ralph, talk to them, set an example. And hope they straighten up. Being self righteous won't solve this issue.
Lori Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I agree with you Gordio. Any time an NFL player pulls a stupid stunt (Vick, Burress, Lynch, Little, Dale Carter, Michael Irving, and on and on....) all we hear is they deserve a second chance after a less than normal person fine or sentence. So these two KIDS do something stupid and now everyone starts talking out of the other side of their mouth. McKelvin should forgive them and bring them to the Ralph, talk to them, set an example. And hope they straighten up. Being self righteous won't solve this issue. Did I ever mention that I hate absolute statements? There was a TON of debate here about Vick, Lynch, et al. Yes, some people defended them. Many others did not.
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