todd Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I'm amazed at how many people here are OK with kids breaking the law and vandalizing another person's property. The kids will get a slap on the wrist, it won't be a big deal, but they will have to go through the system and they should have to do it. They'll get fined and possibly some community service. The penalty will be in line with the crime. If you let them go, what have they learned? they learned that they don't need to be accountable for their actions. The law is there to be enforced. The kids should pay the price for their acts. Amazing how many people disagree when this issue is black & white. BTW - I was a little bit of a hellraiser when I was a kid, and I'm glad I learned a lesson or two when I was a kid. Straightened me out.
Chandler#81 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Maybe the little brats should have just lit a bag of dogschiit on his front porch. That gag's been around forever and no-one seems to get in any trouble..
SlamnSam Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Having been a bit of a hellraiser in my youth, I read about what was done, how it was on the lawn (non-permanent), and what it said. I'm going to take a slightly contrary opinion here. Ok, shouldn't have been done, but was essentially harmless, and funny in a way that MS-13 tags are not because there was a kernal of truth there. I was going to give Leoklutz a second chance on the fumble since he was keeping it in-house where it could easily be remedied by a dad with hickory switch. He was being a mensch. But since he wants to go down this road and prosecute to the full extent of the law, I'm going to go down the same road and boo to the full extent of my lungs. Well Said.
SlamnSam Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I'm amazed at how many people here are OK with kids breaking the law and vandalizing another person's property. The kids will get a slap on the wrist, it won't be a big deal, but they will have to go through the system and they should have to do it. They'll get fined and possibly some community service. The penalty will be in line with the crime. If you let them go, what have they learned? they learned that they don't need to be accountable for their actions. The law is there to be enforced. The kids should pay the price for their acts. Amazing how many people disagree when this issue is black & white. BTW - I was a little bit of a hellraiser when I was a kid, and I'm glad I learned a lesson or two when I was a kid. Straightened me out. I am quite sure you do not need to spend money in the courts to teach these kids a lesson. Community service goes a long way. I dont know about you but the parents can have a bigger impact than a court room. Guess your dad never whipped your butt for bonehead actions.
Mr. WEO Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 The kids will get a slap on the wrist, it won't be a big deal, but they will have to go through the system and they should have to do it. The law is there to be enforced. The kids should pay the price for their acts. What did certain Bills player learn by "going through the system" and getting "a slap on the wrist"? Did it prevent another crime (within a year or so?)? Nice try. Leo would be a credible "victim" if he demonstrated appropriate outrage immediately after grass blade genocide was committed on his lawn--and pressed charges. But he didn't. Now he's decided to press charges on these two criminal masterminds?? One would think it wouldn't be possible to fumble this decision.... Again I am entertained by all the posters who initially gave him props for NOT pressing charges who are now praising his decision to nail these sick sick bastards.
Mike in Syracuse Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 They did it, they admitted it, now they should suffer whatever consequences result.
extrahammer Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I could care less if Leodis was using trickery to get them to admit to it. Which is assinine because they could have easily kept their mouths shut either way. They had to have known if they admitted it they would likely be in some kind of trouble. I'm guessing even THEY think they went too far and thus they admitted to the crime. Hope this helps some of you boneheads!
keepthefaith Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 They did it, they admitted it, now they should suffer whatever consequences result. Completely agree.
PromoTheRobot Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Those who think the vandals are getting screwed are really messed up. Remember who committed the crime here. PTR
dib Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 As R. Lee Ermy would say: "There will be consequences" The little felons should cut his grass and snowblow his drive for a year.
DRutka Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong, but all that was spray painted was the grass, right? In a week and one grass cutting (which would have been done anyway) the paint will be gone. I do not agree with what these kids did, but to have them get criminal records out of this is a little extensive. Make THEM cut the grass when it is needed. I'm sure McKelvin's lawn is quite large. The physical repercussion of cutting the grass (with a push mower) should be enough to teach these kids a lesson.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Whatever McKelvin decides to do in this situation is right. He had his property violated, so it's his decision (perhaps urged on by others) whether to press charges. If you don't want to face legal trouble, don't do dumb stuff. And sure it seems like a silly juvenile thing. But at some point, you have to start being responsible for your actions. Working in schools, I've seen too many kids get a slap on the wrist and feel they got away with something. It's best they learn a lesson now before they get a sense of entitlement and do soemthing more serious. Most likely, it will be a fine and community service anyways.
Gordio Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 and i hope you accept the potential consequences, legal fees, fines that come from that because, evidently, some people never learn. but at least you've made your intentions clear, so i'm sure some of us will be able to point the authorities in the right direction. jw Get off your high horse John. These kids did a harmless prank after Mcdipshit cost the Bills the game by his lack of game awareness & stupidity. Then he comes out openly says I do not want anybody arrested for this. I could almost see pressing charges if it was some middle age 35 year old who did this. These kids are just in high school & probably hit dad's liquor cabinet too hard that night & thought it would be funny. It is ironic but I do not remember the public outcries for that lady that Lynch ran down on the chip strip. F*ck Mckelvin, I just lost what little respect I had for him. & if you think these kids should be punished to the full extent of the law then by the same token Lynch should of been suspended for the whole season, not just three games for his actions were 100xs worse then what these 16 year old kids did.
DaGimp Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 This thing is so F'ing over blown! It was a couple of stupid kids playing a prank. So they draw a big penis on your lawn-does that really scare u? This kind of **** happens to thousands of people every day and usually nothing is done about it. But because it happens to a football player it has to be a big deal. And let's face it Leodis is dumber than sperm so he's easily swayed in this decision.
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 McLovin will be booed loudly for any other mistakes on the gridiron. Seems as though there's a possibility it's setting itself up for an ugly divorce down the road. I can envision it where McLovin would need a change of scenery...has nothing to do with lawns or teen pranks. If he fumbles a kickoff again he ends up in the fan doghouse. No offense to McLovin, but he does come off sounding like quite the dim bulb. Does he know what "pressing charges" means? Inform him it has nothing to do with an ironing board.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 Get off your high horse John. These kids did a harmless prank after Mcdipshit cost the Bills the game by his lack of game awareness & stupidity. Then he comes out openly says I do not want anybody arrested for this. I could almost see pressing charges if it was some middle age 35 year old who did this. These kids are just in high school & probably hit dad's liquor cabinet too hard that night & thought it would be funny. It is ironic but I do not remember the public outcries for that lady that Lynch ran down on the chip strip. F*ck Mckelvin, I just lost what little respect I had for him. & if you think these kids should be punished to the full extent of the law then by the same token Lynch should of been suspended for the whole season, not just three games for his actions were 100xs worse then what these 16 year old kids did. Gordio, I normally like your posts but this is borderline pathetic. Bottomline is McKelvin had his personal space invade because of his job. Do you deserve to have your house vandalized because of a bad day at the office? He's well within his rights to do whatever he wants. Additionally given the Sean Taylor thing, what if LM sees 2 people on his lawn late at night and decides to protect his property? If you violate someone's home, you should face consequences. And blaming McKelvin for this is just stupid sorry.
Gordio Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 McLovin will be booed loudly for any other mistakes on the gridiron. Seems as though there's a possibility it's setting itself up for an ugly divorce down the road. I can envision it where McLovin would need a change of scenery...has nothing to do with lawns or teen pranks. If he fumbles a kickoff again he ends up in the fan doghouse. No offense to McLovin, but he does come off sounding like quite the dim bulb. Does he know what "pressing charges" means? Inform him it has nothing to do with an ironing board. I think he is already in the dog house. I remember Parcell's saying "dumb football players will get you beat everytime". I would not be surprised at all to see TM returning kickoffs this week.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 McLovin will be booed loudly for any other mistakes on the gridiron. Seems as though there's a possibility it's setting itself up for an ugly divorce down the road. I can envision it where McLovin would need a change of scenery...has nothing to do with lawns or teen pranks. If he fumbles a kickoff again he ends up in the fan doghouse. No offense to McLovin, but he does come off sounding like quite the dim bulb. Does he know what "pressing charges" means? Inform him it has nothing to do with an ironing board. Posts like these are making me 2nd guess if we really are the best fans in the league.
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 The doghouse has a swinging door for now...one more gaffe and a padlock can be thrown on it. I also don't remember a lot of backlash aimed at Marshawn Lynch and his driving ability around Chippewa. Eventually people poked fun at a chubby Canadian girl being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 18, 2009 Posted September 18, 2009 I think he is already in the dog house. I remember Parcell's saying "dumb football players will get you beat everytime". I would not be surprised at all to see TM returning kickoffs this week. He made a freaking mistake. It's been almost a week. Move on. You're perfect at work??? He is a hell of a young football who has made a ton more big plays than mistakes. Seriously (and I do like your posts) but you're comign across very bitter. It's a game you watch for entertainment. Stop living your life through it. I've met and talked with McKelvin. nicest dude ever and loves being a Bill. But my god, a bunch of you are comign across as straight richards. Look in the mirror first.
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