Solomon Grundy Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Better hope NE doesn't trade for him with loss of Mayo.
John Cocktosten Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Watching this guy at Texas I cannot believe he hasn't made more of an impact in the NFL. I'd take a shot for a low pick and/or Parrish.
Fewell733 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 from the sound of it in Jauron's press conference today Buggs is getting the nod for now. Then Chris Brown also said the back up plan would be Ellison in the middle with Nic Harris then coming in at OLB.
VABills Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Do they need a smurf WR who can't catch balls across the middle, runs poor routes and quits towards the end of games??? How's about an often in trouble, only suspended once RB?
Doc Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Johnson was an OLB prospect and moved inside at the end of last year. And now the Chefs are looking to bench and trade him. He'd be almost useless as a MLB in the Bills' system, since he doesn't know the defense, but could be a developmental type for later. But he's a 5th year player and probably in the last year of his contract, which makes things dicey. Do you trade for him and give him an extension without knowing if he's worth it?
Fingon Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Johnson was an OLB prospect and moved inside at the end of last year. And now the Chefs are looking to bench and trade him. He'd be almost useless as a MLB in the Bills' system, since he doesn't know the defense, but could be a developmental type for later. But he's a 5th year player and probably in the last year of his contract, which makes things dicey. Do you trade for him and give him an extension without knowing if he's worth it? He's a great coverage LB, but he is woefully inadequate for the 3-4. I would take him in a heartbeat for our Cover 2.
JStranger76 Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 He'd be a huge improvement over Ellison OR Mitchell in the Cover 2, and I don't think anybody is looking at him as a longterm answer in the middle. It's just the fear of a rookie in the middle until Poz is back. Speaking of Poz, I also think that Derrick Johnson is EXACTLY the type of LB he needs on one side of him to take his game to the next level.
Doc Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 He'd be a huge improvement over Ellison OR Mitchell in the Cover 2, and I don't think anybody is looking at him as a longterm answer in the middle. It's just the fear of a rookie in the middle until Poz is back. Speaking of Poz, I also think that Derrick Johnson is EXACTLY the type of LB he needs on one side of him to take his game to the next level. Buggs is a 2nd year player for the Bills. Although you could technically call him a rookie, he knows the playbook and calls. And again, the problem with DJ is that his contract is up at the end of the year and then he's an UFA. What pick would you give up and would you give him an extension immediately after trading for him, or wait until later?
JStranger76 Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Good catch on Buggs being a 2nd year guy, I overlooked that. I probably would work Johnson in slowly behind both Mitchell and Ellison to see where he fits best and let Buggs decide his own fate in the middle. Supposedly Fewell said Ellison could slip inside(I know ) and Harris would go outside. In that case once again Johnson could rotate with Harris till he gets more comfortable in the bills scheme. Doc, you also raise a good question on how much to give up and how to approach a contract extension. If I'm in charge (God help us all!!! ), I would give up a 3rd if an extension was worked out before hand and a fourth or a fifth if not. His speed and coverage skills alone would raise the D up another needed notch. IMO a big DT like Bamas Cody would then be a final piece of the puzzle to make the D really good.....
billsfan89 Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 PFT says he doesn't appear to be part of the Chiefs longterm plans now that they're running the 3-4. Just demoted to second string. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...uietly-demoted/ We certainly have a need. Any thoughts about him? Give them a 4th and a 6th and get it done. Poz fill in now Ellison replacement later, the guy is an upgrade by far and he can be had on the cheap. Hell even a 3rd I would consider it.
Doc Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Good catch on Buggs being a 2nd year guy, I overlooked that. I probably would work Johnson in slowly behind both Mitchell and Ellison to see where he fits best and let Buggs decide his own fate in the middle. Supposedly Fewell said Ellison could slip inside(I know ) and Harris would go outside. In that case once again Johnson could rotate with Harris till he gets more comfortable in the bills scheme. Doc, you also raise a good question on how much to give up and how to approach a contract extension. If I'm in charge (God help us all!!! ), I would give up a 3rd if an extension was worked out before hand and a fourth or a fifth if not. His speed and coverage skills alone would raise the D up another needed notch. IMO a big DT like Bamas Cody would then be a final piece of the puzzle to make the D really good..... I agree. The Bills need to concentrate on defense, particularly DT and LB, in the next draft. Although I like the potential of Harris and Palmer.
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