Guest dog14787 Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 I still like "Fast Freddie" more. Because he's fast. Sounds like his pimpin to me, besides we had a fast Freddie recently, Jackson deserves his own name and one that sounds good Hmmmm, how about FlapJack.
Endzone Animal Posted September 21, 2009 Author Posted September 21, 2009 "My boy" huh? Goes to show you how you're trying to turn this into a "JP Fanboy vs. Trent Fanboy" debate and I'm not going to get into that seeing as I own BOTH an FJ and Lynch jersey... What I don't get is instead of debating the merits of Fred Jackson, you've used this post to attack Marshawn Lynch, calling him a "thug" and then spreading falsities about how he has a bad attitude on the field and how he's in poor shape and condition. I don't get why you're going out of your way to prove how great Fred Jackson is by attacking a fellow Bill (and his best friend on the team). I think its sad that you're going out of your way to attack a player who's not only a Bill but has given his all on the field. He may be an idiot off it, but I've never seen anyone question his determination on it. Glad you like them both. I have actually come right out and said Lynch would make a very good short yardage specialist who can also give Freddie a blow whenever he needs one, so you can cut the crap about me "attacking". I believe he's in bad shape because he has frequently taken himself out of games for extended periods because he gets winded and nauseous, and this year he gained weight in the off season so it stands to reason he won't be any better conditioned this season. Also, when he's out with an injury he doesn't act like a good teammate and cheer the team on on the sidelines, but sits in a luxury box and leaves the game early. Remember the New England game last season? Maybe you should stop giving a free pass to anyone wearing a Bills jersey and start acting with a little objectivity.
PDaDdy Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 Glad you like them both. I have actually come right out and said Lynch would make a very good short yardage specialist who can also give Freddie a blow whenever he needs one, so you can cut the crap about me "attacking". That would be a tremendous waste of Lynch's talent. I believe he's in bad shape because he has frequently taken himself out of games for extended periods because he gets winded and nauseous, and this year he gained weight in the off season so it stands to reason he won't be any better conditioned this season. He takes himself out of the game on occasion after dragging the entire defense for 5 yards and to give your man crush Fast Freddie the playing time he deserves. And yes he came into camp heavier this year. It was muscle. Read the articles. Also, when he's out with an injury he doesn't act like a good teammate and cheer the team on on the sidelines, but sits in a luxury box and leaves the game early. Remember the New England game last season? Yes I was there actually and saw him standing outside of the luxury box. While waiting for someone. It was ridiculously cold and we had nothing to cheer for as we were not playing for anything. What, do you want him to do, stand on the sideline injured watching the final bitter end of our disaster of a season last year? Get real. I'm sure you go in to work on a sick day to cheer on your co-workers. Maybe you should stop giving a free pass to anyone wearing a Bills jersey and start acting with a little objectivity. What free pass are you talking about? Sounds like you are talking about some off field BS. On the field I think YOU have lost your objectivity. Jackson AND Lynch are great RBs. I don't have a bad word to say about either man. Maybe we also let Lynch play the first game of his 3rd year playing professional football? Jackson is a great find for a 28 year old man who is playing his 6th year of professional football(3 in the NFL).
Endzone Animal Posted September 21, 2009 Author Posted September 21, 2009 Your denial of giving Lynch a free pass while simultaneously making lame excuses and apologies for his every deficiency seriously made me laugh out loud. Bottom line: Both backs can't have the ball in their hands at the same, so you give Freddie the majority of the playing time because he is better in every phase of the game, except perhaps short yardage. What do you do with Marshawn? Put Lynch on the field in goal line and short yardage situations, but the rest is for Freddie until he needs a rest or has an injury. Oh, and at 28 with very little tread on his tires he's not too old...not sure where you read that, but it shows you are egregiously biased against Freddie for whatever reason.
PDaDdy Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 Your denial of giving Lynch a free pass while simultaneously making lame excuses and apologies for his every deficiency seriously made me laugh out loud. Bottom line: Both backs can't have the ball in their hands at the same, so you give Freddie the majority of the playing time because he is better in every phase of the game, except perhaps short yardage. What do you do with Marshawn? Put Lynch on the field in goal line and short yardage situations, but the rest is for Freddie until he needs a rest or has an injury. Oh, and at 28 with very little tread on his tires he's not too old...not sure where you read that, but it shows you are egregiously biased against Freddie for whatever reason. Man you have a reading comprehension problem! I make no excuses nor do I call them deficiencies. These are things that YOU think you see. I am merely explaining logically that which you fail to properly interpret. I hate to use this retort but I'm going to guess that you haven't played a sport or lifted a weight in the past. Are you actually watching how much he exerts himself dragging 2 - 4 other grown NFL men with him on his runs? There is a tiny handful of RBs in the league capable of that and he pulls it off regularly. He gives his all on those plays. It's going to take something out of you. If you can't understand that or don't have respect for his effort and level of exertion you apparently have a learning disability and there is nothing that you can be taught. Freddie has plenty of tread. Again you have failed to miss the point that "I" have said nothing bad about either guy. They are BOTH great. You're kind of thick on this point. How can I be biased against someone I call great and haven't said one bad thing about? Get a clue man. You're so hyped up on your argument and obsessed with YOUR bias against Lynch that you are trying to make it a Lynch sucks Jackson rules argument when any fan with a brain thinks they are both good. I would mention that Lynch made the probowl but you're probably one of those guys that tries to say that the opinion of coaches, GMs and fellow players means nothing as far as probowl selection because it disputes your point.
Endzone Animal Posted September 21, 2009 Author Posted September 21, 2009 If you love Lynch as much as you say, than you should be psyched at the idea of him being our designated short yardage specialist, and moving the piles for first downs and touchdowns. If you love Freddie as much as you say, than you should be elated at the idea of him getting most of the snaps and making plays running and catching the football.
PDaDdy Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 If you love Lynch as much as you say, than you should be psyched at the idea of him being our designated short yardage specialist, and moving the piles for first downs and touchdowns. If you love Freddie as much as you say, than you should be elated at the idea of him getting most of the snaps and making plays running and catching the football. Lynch already is the short yardage specialist and moves the pile for first downs and TDs. He also currently gets a large majority of the carries. Where I probably do agree with you is that we need to get Jackson more touches. It would be great if we had some 2 RB formations. Perhaps we do but we haven't been able to employ them due to Lynch's suspension. These two guys would be a GREAT compliment to each other. Splitting either or both out to catch, all manor of shenanigans with reverses, formation shifts and possibly dare I say it ... the WILD CAT!!! Another way to put it is I don't think the answer is less Lynch...it's MORE Jackson. Both of these guys need a lot of touches and we need to get them both on the field at the same time to take advantage of their different styles. We can run two back sets AND on some plays Jackson could come out of the backfield to line up at Reeds spot. Van Pelt, so far, is proving to be an upgrade over Schonert and used Josh Reed really well yesterday to get us out of that period of stagnation. It took years for Reed to work himself into being the competent WR that he is today but I would like to see Jackson come in in his spot on several plays a game. He could start out on the line and shift to the back field or he could start in the backfield and shift out to the WR spot. The motion alone could clue the offense in as to whether the defense is playing man or zone.
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