BTIZZLE Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 I think we need to give Edwards one more year. He was progressing fine last year before the Cardinals game when he got his head bashed in. There are only a few GREAT qbs in the league. I count 2 future HOF QB's, Brady and Manning. (Excluding Farve) I think many of the young QB's are just coached and developed better. Perhaps Losman might have been successful if he were handing the ball of to the BUS (like Big Ben) in his rookie season under the leadership of Cohwer. He built confidence and blossomed into a real NFL player. Are you telling me that Matt Cassell is naturally just better than Edwards?? I think not. I bet Losman OR Edwards could have thrived in the Pats system. Good coaches, good teammates, good front office, and a good owner. I believe Edwards has good teammates. Too bad he lacks the rest. Fate of being a Bill could have ruined Losman's and Edwards career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Are you telling me that Matt Cassell is naturally just better than Edwards?? I think not. I agree we need to give him 1 more year...but there is a reason that Cassell went to USC and Edwards went to Stanford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTIZZLE Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 I agree we need to give him 1 more year...but there is a reason that Cassell went to USC and Edwards went to Stanford. OK, then I guess then the top 3 picks of every draft should be straight out of USC's QB depth chart?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need therapy Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 I think we need to give Edwards one more year. He was progressing fine last year before the Cardinals game when he got his head bashed in. Like it or not we have him for one more year. If he can't do anything with two decent starting wide outs and a good supporting cast of receivers and backs, then it will be time to look elsewhere. No one at 1 Bills Drive is thinking that Fitzpatrick is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 I agree we need to give him 1 more year...but there is a reason that Cassell went to USC and Edwards went to Stanford. Edwards is smarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 I agree also. He'd be a different QB if he were playing for the pats, or any other proven QB developers. then again if Tom Brady were a bill i doubt he would be considered a top QB for very long with the bills OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I 90 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 One more year, two more offensive coordinators, another head coach, and a contract dispute with Ralph and he'll be just about finished. Finished developing or Losman finished, I'm not sure which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I agree we need to give him 1 more year...but there is a reason that Cassell went to USC and Edwards went to Stanford. Actually this is totally false...Edwards was ranked as the #1 Pro style QB prospect in the country in 2001 by USA Today, and was ranked by Rivals as the #2 QB and #20 player overall in their rankings. He was recruited by Michigan, Florida, Notre Dame, Tennessee and Stanford, ultimately choosing Stanford. Please get your facts straight before you post things like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 One more year, two more offensive coordinators, another head coach, and a contract dispute with Ralph and he'll be just about finished. Finished developing or Losman finished, I'm not sure which. Talk about development. How many QB's in their first 3 NFL seasons can handle 3 OC's? I know they've all run similar offenses, but that's a bit much to ask. Edwards still has to show a lot this season with the weapons he's got. This franchise has made a habit out of setting people up to fail. RW set up Levy and Brandon to fail. DJ set up TE to fail when he hired an also-ran QB coach to be OC. And now AVP is being told to put together a game plan for the offense with 10 days against one of the best team this decade. Just once I'd like to see the team set people up to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Talk about development. How many QB's in their first 3 NFL seasons can handle 3 OC's? I know they've all run similar offenses, but that's a bit much to ask. Edwards still has to show a lot this season with the weapons he's got. This franchise has made a habit out of setting people up to fail. RW set up Levy and Brandon to fail. DJ set up TE to fail when he hired an also-ran QB coach to be OC. And now AVP is being told to put together a game plan for the offense with 10 days against one of the best team this decade. Just once I'd like to see the team set people up to succeed. YES! Case in point. Drew Bledsoe, perhaps the only NFL player in recent memory that a clubfooted lesbian could beat in a foot race...bring him in and give him zero support at the O-line. A pocket passer minus the pocket. Edwards, year three, totally revamped o-line and whatever else you think---on a clusterflick of an offense this pre-season. It's a qb graveyard, the Ralph is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Picking the right QB is the problem. RJ sucked. We traded for him based on one preseason game. JP sucked, he wasn't that good in college and we never should have taken him let alone trade up for him. Trent is nothing but a 3rd string backup in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Picking the right QB is the problem. RJ sucked. We traded for him based on one preseason game.that was a regular season game actually and a lot of teams were said to be looking at trading for him as a result of his performance. We just happened to "win" that sweepstakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 that was a regular season game actually and a lot of teams were said to be looking at trading for him as a result of his performance. We just happened to "win" that sweepstakes giving up what turned out to be Fred Taylor was bad enough but the real inept move was givng RJ a massive $25 contract extension before he played a down for the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuffalobob Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I think we need to give Edwards one more year. He was progressing fine last year before the Cardinals game when he got his head bashed in. There are only a few GREAT qbs in the league. I count 2 future HOF QB's, Brady and Manning. (Excluding Farve) I think many of the young QB's are just coached and developed better. Perhaps Losman might have been successful if he were handing the ball of to the BUS (like Big Ben) in his rookie season under the leadership of Cohwer. He built confidence and blossomed into a real NFL player. Are you telling me that Matt Cassell is naturally just better than Edwards?? I think not. I bet Losman OR Edwards could have thrived in the Pats system. Good coaches, good teammates, good front office, and a good owner. I believe Edwards has good teammates. Too bad he lacks the rest. Fate of being a Bill could have ruined Losman's and Edwards career. Are you telling me that Matt Cassell is naturally just better than Edwards?? I think not. I bet Losman OR Edwards could have thrived in the Pats system. ...guys who get open because of an intelligent play-call... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 hindsight is 20-20...we actually had a RB coming off a solid rookie season so we wouldn't have drafted a RB with that pick, anyway. No one knew Bishop Harris would totally !@#$ up Antowain's running style the way he did in 98 and 99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 its the curse of the Flutie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Actually this is totally false...Edwards was ranked as the #1 Pro style QB prospect in the country in 2001 by USA Today, and was ranked by Rivals as the #2 QB and #20 player overall in their rankings. He was recruited by Michigan, Florida, Notre Dame, Tennessee and Stanford, ultimately choosing Stanford. Please get your facts straight before you post things like this... Also, at this point of time in their NFL careers, Edwards has shown more poise and ability to handle a Pro offense than the two guys who went ahead of him in Quinn and Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 giving up what turned out to be Fred Taylor was bad enough but the real inept move was givng RJ a massive $25 contract extension before he played a down for the Bills And then putting him in to the Titans playoff game, when it was Fluties team for the whole season.....Maddening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 its the curse of the Flutie It is the curse of those old guys in sleepy Fredonia which is still haunting us.....Damn the Bills for moving their training camp to Rochester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I count 2 future HOF QB's, Brady and Manning. (Excluding Farve) I count 4. The two you mentioned plus Big Ben (2 SB wins) and Kurt Warner (3 SBs and 1 SB win). I think those guy got it sewed up. Eli maybe if he goes on to have a decent career. Anyway, I hope Trent does well this year. I crossing my fingers and saying a prayer. I think he needs all the help we can give him. But I am nervous. Our defense will be solid. Our OLine will be OK. He won't have protection like Peyton Manning, but he should have time to throw. The fate of the season rest squarely on his and the rest of the offense's shoulders. Go Trent !! Go BILLS !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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