TheBlackMamba Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Anyone at the game notice that CJ was doubled teamed everytime he was on the field? He still managed 3 or 4 catches for about 70 yards and a called back TD with a rookie QB. Makes you wonder how good is Lee Evans really is when he can be taken away with constant double teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 If Calvin Johnson is your standard for a real number one receiver, then there are maybe 5 in the league, and, granted Evans isn't one of them. BTW, you do know he was playing against the Bills backups, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 On the other hand, it's a little hard to tell with Evans since they almost never throw the ball in his direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackMamba Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 It doesnt matter if it was first or second teamers being double teamed is the same. My point is why is it that other teams dont care if their #1 guy is double covered and continue to throw his way and the Bills just say "sh*t, they are taking lee away. I guess we better not throw his way". BTW for the 8 million a year he is being paid, he should be able to beat double teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conch Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 It doesnt matter if it was first or second teamers being double teamed is the same. My point is why is it that other teams dont care if their #1 guy is double covered and continue to throw his way and the Bills just say "sh*t, they are taking lee away. I guess we better not throw his way". BTW for the 8 million a year he is being paid, he should be able to beat double teams. EVANS = MOST OVERRATED RECEIVER IN THE NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 One of my best friends is a Lions fan, so he's an idiot. But he also has a Lions shirt with 81 on the back and MEGATRON scrolled across the nameplate. It's the coolest piece of clothing in the history of man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 It doesnt matter if it was first or second teamers being double teamed is the same. My point is why is it that other teams dont care if their #1 guy is double covered and continue to throw his way and the Bills just say "sh*t, they are taking lee away. I guess we better not throw his way". BTW for the 8 million a year he is being paid, he should be able to beat double teams. Uuuuh, on most of the big plays, the second overall pick of 2007, Calvin Johnson, was being covered by Ellis Lankster, the 220nd overall pick in THIS year's draft. I'd say that sorta matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 You sure won't see Calvin Johnson having that measure of success during the regular season. He won't be going up against the likes of Ellis Lankster then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 You sure won't see Calvin Johnson having that measure of success during the regular season. He won't be going up against the likes of Ellis Lankster then. Huh? Guy had 1,300 receiving yards and 12 touchdowns last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Yeah, if only we had a great receiver on our team. The Bills should go out and sign someone like Johnson. Too bad Terrell Owens isn't available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Yeah, if only we had a great receiver on our team. The Bills should go out and sign someone like Johnson. Too bad Terrell Owens isn't available. Hey, Mike, I'm trying. I play the Powerball and Mega Millions all the time. Once I win enough to purchase the Bills (I'm sure I can win 'bout 4 or 5 jackpots and then quit), then we'll see some real change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.fishopolis Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Anyone at the game notice that CJ was doubled teamed everytime he was on the field? He still managed 3 or 4 catches for about 70 yards and a called back TD with a rookie QB. Makes you wonder how good is Lee Evans really is when he can be taken away with constant double teams. Anyone watch the highlights of XXXVIII and see Tom Brady throw for nearly 400 yards and 3 tds? He was under constant pressure, and still managed to throw the ball all over the field to barely-open receivers. Some of those receivers were cornerbacks at the beginning of the year! Makes you wonder how good Trent Edwards really is when he can be taken away by an ineffective line and even has some receivers that aren't cornerbacks. What's that you say? Tom Brady is one of the greatest quarterbacks in the game? And if we use that as a standard, virtually *nobody* is a good qb? oh, right, I see your point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 It doesnt matter if it was first or second teamers being double teamed is the same. My point is why is it that other teams dont care if their #1 guy is double covered and continue to throw his way and the Bills just say "sh*t, they are taking lee away. I guess we better not throw his way". BTW for the 8 million a year he is being paid, he should be able to beat double teams. Ok, have you ever played football? Dont mean that offensively, just asking because you are making a very common misconception on how to beat a double team. When a WR beats a double team that doesnt mean he is running wide open. It means he found a crease in the coverage where the QUARTERBACK was able to sling the ball in. What all these "Evans isnt good enough people" fail miserably to realize is that a QUARTERBACK is actually MORE important to a WR beating a double team than a WR is at the NFL level, ESPECIALLY when dealing with a WR in the mold of Lee Evans, S. Smith, M. Harrision, etc... The WR is rarely just going to "lose" both defenders. He is going to most often create a crease or window of opportunity for the QB to get the ball to him. That requires the WR and QB to be in tune and recognize where the soft spots on the defense will be. Trent has very often tried to force the ball to Lee because he doesnt throw to the area where Lee will the seperation, he waits until the seperation occurs then fires which is too late and allows the D to close. THis is just Football 101... There are many times where Lee gets the window and Trent fails to pull the trigger. I think a lot of this has to do with his confidence. Honestly, Trent plays a lot like he questions either his read, ability or arm strength to get the ball to where he wants. Maybe its a combo of all 3, I dont know, but watch someone like Manning, Warner, Favre, McNabb, etc...they throw with conviction and confidence win or lose. Trent seems to hesitate as if he is unsure unless the guy is wide open. Case example 1: S. Smith - with a healthy DelHomme he was considered the best WR in football and the one of the most productive in the game. When the QB gets hurt and David Carr comes in, S. Smith is literally a ghost of his former self. The rest of the team is the same EXCPET the QB and all of a sudden S. Smith cant beat double coverages? Come on now, Smith didnt change, the QB did and couldnt get him the ball where he was open, and that went on for the entire season. This is VERY similar to Lee as they are both similar style WR's... Case example 2: R. Moss - when he was Oak he was said to have lost a step and not able to abuse opposing defensive backs like he once was and wasnt explosive enough to beat double coverage anymore. All of a sudden he goes to NE and poof he sets single season recieving records and has the single greatest season by a WR in the history of the NFL. Then last year, without Tom Brady he goes back to having a solid season instead of a great season. A WR is the only player on the field whos succes is dependent on another player (the QB). A good QB can make bad WR's look better than they are. Case example: Every WR not named T.O. to ever play in Phi under the McNabb era. Donte Stalworth was one of the most dangerous WR in football that year in Philly never to do anything ever again and not a whole lot before. A bad QB can make great WR's look average... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 On the other hand, it's a little hard to tell with Evans since they almost never throw the ball in his direction. Evans caught 62% of the passes thrown in his direction last season, one of the higher ones in the league. You're right, we simply dont throw the ball him enough times for him to pile up those numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Megatron is a freak of nature- a physical freak of nature. Not many people can do what he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep2evans Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I'll reiterate the point that if Calvin Johnson is your measuring stick for a "#1 WR" you need to get a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 EVANS = MOST OVERRATED RECEIVER IN THE NFL He is not overated, just overpaid. No one other than bills fans and management think he is a top 10 receiver. He is small and not physical. He is fast, has great hands and runs great routes. Andre johnson T O Randy Moss Brandon Marshall Steve Smith Larry Fitz Anquan Bolden Roddy White Calvin Johnson wes welker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I'll reiterate the point that if Calvin Johnson is your measuring stick for a "#1 WR" you need to get a clue. I'd have to say that T.O. is the clear #1 WR on the team this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 but it was against 2nd 3rd stringers.......great player i wont argue that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 He is not overated, just overpaid. No one other than bills fans and management think he is a top 10 receiver. He is small and not physical. He is fast, has great hands and runs great routes. Andre johnson T O Randy Moss Brandon Marshall Steve Smith Larry Fitz Anquan Bolden Roddy White Calvin Johnson wes welker IMO, Lee is a little better than Welker and White...neither White nor Welker were putting up gaudy stats until they got a QB who could get them the ball...Lee would be more productive in NE than Welker if they swapped spots IMO, espcially in the TD category. White is a very good WR, but to me Evans has an edge on hands, routes, and explosiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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