Beerball Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 link Can't find the Bills $ value, but here's the top ten.
BillsWatch Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 According to Forbes as cited by ESPN: Eight teams saw their value decline in this year's rankings, and six had no change. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4441193 Bills are doing pretty well if they increased in value in this market. I am really surprised that Jacksonville was not listed as a team which FORBES determined dropped in value.
BillsVet Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 What's Al Davis doing out there in Oakland? According to that ESPN article, the Raiders are now worth $747B? Man, don't let Obama know about that.
DarthICE Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Well, not bad for a 'small market team' eh?
Dr. Trooth Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 I am really surprised that Jacksonville was not listed as a team which FORBES determined dropped in value. There seems to be a misconception that just because Jax hardly sells out and doesn't have robust season tix sales, they are doing poorly. Wrong. All that means is that Jax is not sharing as much ticket revemue of, say, as the Bills. What Jax does have is a hefty lux box sales because Jax has some strong businesses and wealth in the area. Lux box revenue and naming rights revenue are not shared as ticket sales are. Hell... if the owners revenue sharing structure stays put, I envision a new sadium with 20,000 seats available to the general public (for a PSL fee of course) and 5,000 luxury suites at $250K a pop. The owner onlys has to share a portion of the 20,000 tix sales plus parking, concessions, & NFL licensed gear. The lux box $$$ is pure gold. So don't get caught up in the BS that just because Jax is in the smallest NFL market and not coming close to filling the seats. The lux boxes are all taken... whether or not they're filled on Sunday's doesn't matter. The Bills chepest ticket is $36, The Jags $50... roughly 1/3 more than the Bills
BuffaloRebound Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Ralph made $39.5m in operating profit and approximately $26m in unrealized gains last year according to Forbes. And he can't afford a real GM and Coach?
'64 Bills Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Ralph made $39.5m in operating profit and approximately $26m in unrealized gains last year according to Forbes. And he can't afford a real GM and Coach? did anyone ever say ralph is a dummy! he won't change anything until ticket sales drop off - - why should he?
jax bill backer Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Jacksonville is worth more than buffalo dude
DarthICE Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 did anyone ever say ralph is a dummy! he won't change anything until ticket sales drop off - - why should he? I have been saying that for years. Why would anyone with Ralph's money and knowing him like we do ever pay large sums to try and improve this team? Fans are going to sell out the stadium even if we go 1-15. He has no incentive what so ever to do anything but put the cheapest product on the field.
DarthICE Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Ralph made $39.5m in operating profit and approximately $26m in unrealized gains last year according to Forbes. And he can't afford a real GM and Coach? See that is what gets me, 39 million in PROFIT. That means after all bills are paid including upkeep, staff, coaching etal....he MADE MILLIONS. He could take right now and spend 9 additional million of that profit and get a damn good HC, GM and additional staff, but refuses to do so.
_ROOKIE_ Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 See that is what gets me, 39 million in PROFIT. That means after all bills are paid including upkeep, staff, coaching etal....he MADE MILLIONS. He could take right now and spend 9 additional million of that profit and get a damn good HC, GM and additional staff, but refuses to do so. i agree, i bet some of the money was from not spending all of the cap money, what a cheap bastard Ralph is
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Jacksonville is worth more than buffalo dude Only because a new owner knows he can move the team.
jax bill backer Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 no,because he is a better owner than ralph
DarthICE Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Only because a new owner knows he can move the team. Where? Where is he going to move it? How is he going to get approval from the league? Sorry, many factors say this team is going no where any time soon.
BuffaloBill Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Cool that the Bills gained ground. Only small market team to do so.
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/30/footba...ns_Revenue.html It's crazy to think we only made $5 million less in revenue than the Jets. But we're just a little small market team in a dying area.
DarthICE Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 12th in operating income...but Ralph has it so bad
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