Obama and his influence?

[Magox]

Looks as if to me that there are many Democrats that are running for office that are depending on Obama and his popularity for them to get elected. As Obama sinks so do the rest, if Obama treads above water, then some of them will as well.

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=aRMungDAPSlc

 

President Barack Obama won’t be on the ballot in New Jersey and Virginia when those states hold the nation’s only governor’s races in November. His policies likely will be.

 

The elections offer a test of whether the electricity Obama generated with voters during his campaign will power other Democrats.

 

Obama has been campaigning for both Governor Jon Corzine, 62, of New Jersey and Creigh Deeds, 51, a state senator running for governor in Virginia. The president’s push for health care legislation and unprecedented federal spending on the worst financial crisis in 70 years has created headaches for his fellow Democrats, who both trail their opponents in the polls.

 

“The political bounce on everything that’s happened this summer has made people much more cautious, much more conservative and fearful of change,†said Ross Baker, a professor of political science at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey.

 

Support for Obama and his policies has eroded over the summer. The percentage of Americans who disapprove of his handling of health care has jumped to 50 percent from 29 percent in April, an ABC News/Washington Post poll conducted Aug. 13 to 17 found.

 

Of the two races, the results in Virginia are more likely to telegraph national sentiment, said Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville. There are “two relatively little-known candidates who are bland moderates, and that encourages the message-sending of voting.â€

 

A Quinnipiac University Poll released Tuesday found 60 percent of New Jersey voters disapprove of Corzine’s job performance. Corzine is 10 percentage points behind Christie in the poll, conducted Aug. 25 to 30.

 

I thought this was somewhat funny:

 

A corruption scandal that led to the arrests of 44 people, many of them Democrats, has also become an issue. Fifty percent of New Jersey voters associate Democrats more with corruption, while 16 percent identify Republicans, the Quinnipiac Poll found.

[Endzone Animal]

Obama worship is still strong...don't kid yourself. Though his numbers may be down, those that do approve do so with a religious vigor that will deliver at the booth. Plus, many of those that have recently slid off the bandwagon are the more radical social and environmental leftists who wanted him to push left further and faster than he has, and their hostility towards Bush knows no limits.

 

They will still vote Obama and the democrat ticket in the end, and the demographics just do not add up anymore for the GOP supporters longing for a triumphant return of a Reagan revolution.

[Magox]

Obama worship is still strong...don't kid yourself. Though his numbers may be down, those that do approve do so with a religious vigor that will deliver at the booth. Plus, many of those that have recently slid off the bandwagon are the more radical social and environmental leftists who wanted him to push left further and faster than he has, and their hostility towards Bush knows no limits.

 

They will still vote Obama and the democrat ticket in the end, and the demographics just do not add up anymore for the GOP supporters longing for a triumphant return of a Reagan revolution.

I'm not so sure I agree with you. Not only has his poll numbers gone down faster than any president in recent history in their first year, but the poll numbers who "strongly" disapprove have risen sharply over the last couple months, and mind you, that was with the stock market dramatically rising.

 

Also, have you seen, the poll numbers for both of the governors mentioned in this article and key congressional leaders such as Dodd and Reid are losing by a wide margin. Now of course, many of the elections don't take place until late next year, and that is an eternity of time, but there is little doubt, that if things stay on this path or for that matter don't improve markedly, my guess is that lots of Republicans will be regaining seats.

[ThereIsNoDog]

Vote all incumbents out.

[IDBillzFan]

Plus, many of those that have recently slid off the bandwagon are the more radical social and environmental leftists who wanted him to push left further and faster than he has, and their hostility towards Bush knows no limits.

Actually, I heard Scott Rasmussen making the rounds this week explaining that Obama's plummeting poll numbers are primarily caused by the independents bailing on him. On the other hand, I figure NJ would vote for Che Guevara over anyone even remotely conservative, so I wouldn't use that state as a bellwether of the nation's mood.

[John Adams]

Vote all incumbents out.

 

Yeah. You might throw some baby out with the bathwater but mostly, you'd be throwing the sh------- bathwater out.

[DC Tom]

On the other hand, I figure NJ would vote for Che Guevara over anyone even remotely conservative, so I wouldn't use that state as a bellwether of the nation's mood.

 

Or of a relative measure of corruption between Democrats and Republicans. When 80% of your elected officials are Democrats, of course 80% of those arrested for corruption are going to be Democrats.

[IDBillzFan]

Yeah. You might throw some baby out with the bathwater but mostly, you'd be throwing the sh------- bathwater out.

Did you see this poll? Very telling.

[Magox]

Did you see this poll? Very telling.

It is telling,

 

It's telling them to get the !@#$ out!!

[1billsfan]

Actually, I heard Scott Rasmussen making the rounds this week explaining that Obama's plummeting poll numbers are primarily caused by the independents bailing on him. On the other hand, I figure NJ would vote for Che Guevara over anyone even remotely conservative, so I wouldn't use that state as a bellwether of the nation's mood.

 

I live in New Jersey and there's no way that Corzine wins no matter how many more millions he can spend over Christie. The guy's been trying to turn this state into New York south by telling us to bend over, take the taxation, then taxing us more for good measure. New Jersians are freaking pissed at this guy...Bernie Madoff pissed. The democratic corruption scandal was just icing on the cake. The good people of New Jersey will be fitting Corzine with a nice pair of cement shoes come election day.

[John Adams]

It is telling,

 

It's telling them to get the !@#$ out!!

 

Thta poll just shows that people don't vote like they poll. They want everyone to throw out their guy but when push comes to shove, they return their incumbent to office.

[Magox]

Thta poll just shows that people don't vote like they poll. They want everyone to throw out their guy but when push comes to shove, they return their incumbent to office.

I agree, to an extent. I wouldn't be surprised that many of the incumbents do get shoved out of office.

 

Do you think there will be a significant turnover come election time? By "significant" I mean above let's say 15%

[John Adams]

I agree, to an extent. I wouldn't be surprised that many of the incumbents do get shoved out of office.

 

Do you think there will be a significant turnover come election time? By "significant" I mean above let's say 15%

 

I would love to think so but these political bloodbaths are often more smoke than fire.