Beerball Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 There's a joke in there somewhere but I'm too lazy to go find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Ceremonies ended abruptly when a lightbulb went out... Okay, that was bad. And tomorrow is the anniversary of the end of the war (Japan's surrender aboard the Missouri) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 The Great Patriotic War, as the Russians called it. I spent a lot of time in Eastern Europe lately and you really get a sense of how that war affected the people in the most horrific way. We are lucky to have been spared the full weight and horror of that war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 There's a joke in there somewhere but I'm too lazy to go find it. Definitely no joke there, what a horrible time it was in Poland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Civilian losses due to German invasion of Poland: The Polish September Campaign was an instance of total war. Consequently, civilian casualties were high during and after combat. From the start, the Luftwaffe attacked civilian targets and columns of refugees along the roads to wreak havoc, disrupt communications and target Polish morale. Apart from the victims of the battles, the German forces (both SS and the regular Wehrmacht) are credited with the mass murder of several thousands of Polish POWs and civilians. Also, during Operation Tannenberg, nearly 20,000 Poles were shot at 760 mass execution sites by special units, the Einsatzgruppen, in addition to regular Wehrmacht, SS and Selbstschutz. Altogether, the civilian losses of Polish population amounted to about 150,000–200,000 while German civilian losses amounted to roughly 3,250 (including 2,000 who died fighting Polish troops as members of a fifth column). real funny........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 real funny........ Deep breaths... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Deep breaths... sorry, but when my grandparents with my 2yr old father and his 4 yr old brother had to flee poland due to german and soviet invasions/control to avoid possible death, there's nothing funny about it- at least to me. what i posted was just a bit of edu-ma-cation for everyone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 sorry, but when my grandparents with my 2yr old father and his 4 yr old brother had to flee poland due to german and soviet invasions/control to avoid possible death, there's nothing funny about it- at least to me. what i posted was just a bit of edu-ma-cation for everyone.... No apologies ... you're right, there's nothing funny about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 While researching my ancestors in Eastern Europe I found that records seem to cease around 1941-42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 The Great Patriotic War, as the Russians called it. I spent a lot of time in Eastern Europe lately and you really get a sense of how that war affected the people in the most horrific way. We are lucky to have been spared the full weight and horror of that war. Soldier wore 3 uniforms during WWII Cliff Radel, Cincinati Enquirer Sept. 1, 2009 Old soldiers never die. They just fade into memories. "At age 92, Mieczyslaw "Mietek" Wnuk is an old, old soldier. Before the years took their toll, he held vivid memories of what happened on this day 70 years ago. "Early in the morning of Sept. 1, I was awakened by the sound of a plane flying over our house." The plane brandished a Nazi German swastika. September had just begun. And, so had World War II."... http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2009083...wore+3+uniforms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Soldier wore 3 uniforms during WWIICliff Radel, Cincinati Enquirer Sept. 1, 2009 Old soldiers never die. They just fade into memories. "At age 92, Mieczyslaw "Mietek" Wnuk is an old, old soldier. Before the years took their toll, he held vivid memories of what happened on this day 70 years ago. "Early in the morning of Sept. 1, I was awakened by the sound of a plane flying over our house." The plane brandished a Nazi German swastika. September had just begun. And, so had World War II."... http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2009083...wore+3+uniforms good article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 The Ukrainian jews in Kyiv rushed the Dnipro river to welcome the Nazis as they thought they would be treated better than the Russians treated them (see the Holodor) Babi Yar was a precursor to Auschwitz. The Ukrainians had an army fighting with the Germans, an army fighting with the Russians and a Partisan army. To this day there is a tremendous split in Ukraine among the Ukrainiains who fought on every possible side. Belarus was completely destroyed, and Minsk was Stalin's effort to recreate a great city after the war. Its architecture is so soviet (massive and concrete based) as to be intimidating. The greatest sports story of all time is the Death match (soccer) between the Kyiv dynamo soccer team and the German Luftwaffe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 The Poles were the first to fight back against Hitler's barbaric aggression, and also the first to throw off the yoke of communism. An article about the commemoration ceremonies from this week's AMPOL Eagle... Poland - First to Fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 My Grandfather was a university student in Poland when the Krauts invaded. Because he was an American citizen, he spent 5 years in a nazi prison camp. The invasion of Poland was no joke. Suffer under Hitler, or end up in the Soviet gulag. Some choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 My Grandfather was a university student in Poland when the Krauts invaded. Because he was an American citizen, he spent 5 years in a nazi prison camp. The invasion of Poland was no joke. Suffer under Hitler, or end up in the Soviet gulag. Some choice. Amazingly, some Poles thought they might fare better under Hitler than Joe Stalin - whose atrocities were every bit as barbaric as Hitler's, if not as well-documented. Stalin, who made a secret pact with Hitler to divide Poland 'down the middle' , invaded from the east 17 days after Hitler attacked from the west. My father was 13 he joined the Polish Underground - his accounts of sickening, wanton depravity by both the Germans and the Communists are too disgusting to think about. He never saw any of his family again - when he returned to the village of his childhood, it was completely gone, burned to the ground. When offered the choice of returning to Poland or coming to the US, he chose to come here for fear the Russians would kill him in retaliation for his activities during the war. Even decades later, he was afraid to visit his homeland for fear the communist regime would seek him out for reprisal. One can just imagine how brutal the Communists must have been to instill a fear that lasted so long after the war ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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