DarthICE Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Just sayin' We can thank Ol' Whitey for those two losses.
Omar Little Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 I think Ron Edwards has done a fantastic job filling Pat Williams' role. I don't miss that guy at all.
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2009 Author Posted September 1, 2009 I think Ron Edwards has done a fantastic job filling Pat Williams' role. I don't miss that guy at all. Who does? LOL
Rico Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 who doesn't? I miss Pat Williams & I miss Nate, don't miss Lil Antoine at all.
The_Philster Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Who does? LOL well, he'd look pretty solid starting alongside Stroud considering he's KC's starting NT and has been pretty solid there, from what little I've heard
BuffOrange Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Can't help but wonder what those closed-door meetings were like for these mind-bogglingly pathetic FO decisions. Hey who needs Fat Pat and Winfield...Chris Kelsay though, thats a blue chipper we must keep at all cost.
billnutinphoenix Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Free Agency blunders have been a big part of why we haven't had too many winning seasons...
DDD Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Losing Winfield and particularly Williams set this franchise back years. I remember when Winfield left, some people tried to justify the loss by saying he couldn't intercept passes. And Williams' best football was behind him. Yea right. All those guys do is make plays year after year. Add I'll add Jason Peters to the list of major franchise mistakes. Criticize him all you want for the sacks he gave up. He'll be missed. Big time. Mark my words.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Free Agency blunders have been a big part of why we haven't had too many winning seasons... +1 on that avatar.
jax bill backer Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 I miss Pat Williams & I miss Nate, don't miss Lil Antoine at all. Winfield is better then clements
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2009 Author Posted September 1, 2009 Losing Winfield and particularly Williams set this franchise back years. I remember when Winfield left, some people tried to justify the loss by saying he couldn't intercept passes. And Williams' best football was behind him. Yea right. All those guys do is make plays year after year. Add I'll add Jason Peters to the list of major franchise mistakes. Criticize him all you want for the sacks he gave up. He'll be missed. Big time. Mark my words. I hate to look back like that, but watching those two have such a major impact on the Vikings D is very difficult. Meanwhile we have mostly JAGs on Defense. JAG = Just a Guy if you didn't already know.
Kipers Hair Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 and we picked MIke Williams over McKinney...Not a great T, but better than what we have....I hate the Vikings now....
djsabres Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 I miss them too. I also remember the game winning pick six that bounced off Winfeild's hands last time we played in Dallas
Original Byrd Man Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 I think Ron Edwards has done a fantastic job filling Pat Williams' role. I don't miss that guy at all. Edwards was pretty good when he was healthy. He just had trouble staying that way.
billsfan89 Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Don't really miss Winfield that much we have been able to replace him with guys like Greer and Mcgee and now Mckelvin. Pat Williams is severely missed however and everyone knew it at the time that they couldn't replace him. Stroud and Pat Williams would sure look good playing next to each other. I don't know why they let him go (I heard it was a cap room thing) but they should have done everything possible to keep him (He wanted to stay and he wasn't asking for too much). Ralph and this FO are penny wise and dollar stupid.
H2o Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Can't help but wonder what those closed-door meetings were like for these mind-bogglingly pathetic FO decisions. Hey who needs Fat Pat and Winfield...Chris Kelsay though, thats a blue chipper we must keep at all cost. Winfield followed the money and there was nothing we could do about that. He got paid somewhere around $12 million his first year with Minny and $20 over the first 2 years. His contract was HEAVILY frontloaded over the first two seasons there because they had the cap space. If I remember correctly, Minnesota made him the highest paid CB in the league at that time. We wouldn't match that, sorta like the Clements deal. Now Pat Williams? Yeah, that was a completely boneheaded decision. He liked int in Buffalo as well from what I remember and we still let him walk.
BillsZubaz Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 I miss Pat Williams & I miss Nate, don't miss Lil Antoine at all. Antoine Winfield is a better DB than Clements. He is one of the best tacklers in the league despite his size. He is also a LOCKdown corner. The one knock against him is he doesn't come away with all that many INTS...which has been true..
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