DaGimp Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 "Obviously, we would like players to get better than as we would call it gooder"
Reed83HOF Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Just think how sad it was that he beat out our starting center last year mid season. What does that say about the quality of the players we had on our roster at the time. +10000
nodnarb Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Donahoe might have the worst record of all time when it comes to drafting offensive linemen.
zazie Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 What were your expectations for a very good Pro Bowl DT? He'd been injured for a couple of years and had not played well. That he was able to come bacik into good form and play in every game, was a very pleasant surprise. Usually with the Bills luck it goes the other way, the seemingly washed up guy IS washed up.
Captain Caveman Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 With the exception of the fact he's been in the league twice as long and probably started twice as many games, they're the same? That's like saying if you take away T.O.'s receptions and touchdowns, he's the same as Lee Evans. He's been in the league for eight years, which for a lineman means he is most likely on the downside of his career. He was a starter for some pretty bad Miami teams in 04-05 and half a season in Cleveland in 07. He was a backup for Cleveland last year. So yeah, that's just like saying Lee Evans is like TO (if TO had been a backup for the Browns last season....) http://www.nfl.com/players/sethmckinney/profile?id=MCK507237
Big Turk Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 He's been in the league for eight years, which for a lineman means he is most likely on the downside of his career. He was a starter for some pretty bad Miami teams in 04-05 and half a season in Cleveland in 07. He was a backup for Cleveland last year. So yeah, that's just like saying Lee Evans is like TO (if TO had been a backup for the Browns last season....) http://www.nfl.com/players/sethmckinney/profile?id=MCK507237 "Whats wrong with being a backup?" Regards, Every Bills FA signing the past 5 years
DanInSouthBuffalo Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Didn't see that coming. Signed, Ray Charles
Captain Caveman Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 TO is to Seth McKinney as Lee Evans is to Duke Preston. Geez, why didn't I think of that.
Big Turk Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Didn't see that coming. Signed, Ray Charles "Us either." Signed, Stevie Wonder and Ray Orbison
Captain Caveman Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 "Us either." Signed, Stevie Wonder and Ray Orbison You know, Ray Orbison wasn't blind. He just liked those glasses.
Sisyphean Bills Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 We never saw this one coming, did we? Nope. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/index.php?...t&p=1372337
Gary M Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Didn't see that coming. Signed, Ray Charles Cut it out, you're killing me.
todd Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Marshawn Lynch Fred Jackson Trent Edwards (3rd round QB pick, entering only 3rd year) McKelvin Stevie Jackson Poz Marcus Stroud Kyle Williams I understand what you are saying, but all the above players are contributing pretty well when draft position is taken into consideration. Please, someone on this board name 1 player on the Bills (drafted or signed as a FA during Jauron's tenure) that has reached a level of play that meets the best expectations for that player. There are few if any. These coaches can develop anything that is above average. I can think of only one, Fred Jackson. Maybe Bryan Scott on defense.
todd Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 What were your expectations for a very good Pro Bowl DT? Helping the Bills run defense ranking jump 10 spots or so is pretty nifty.
BuffaloBill Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 +10000 I would say the snapping to nobody behind him and the false starts were among the funniest plays I have ever seen. Problem is that all you could really do as a Bills fan was cry because he was our starting center
dbringer Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 You know, Ray Orbison wasn't blind. He just liked those glasses. Who is Ray Orbison? Is he Roy's brother?
Endless Ike Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Imagine if you will this all star lineup: First String: Geoff HangOut in the Backfield Second String: Melvin the scholar of suck Fowler Third String: Duke Press Me into the QB They would be unstoppable! maybe we can combine them into one huge O-llineman...like Voltron
Captain Caveman Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Who is Ray Orbison? Is he Roy's brother? No, he called his glasses Ray, I think...
High Mark Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Another Modrak pick... out of the NFL forever (likely) This happens very often with his picks, IE Mike WIlliams/JP Losman, and soo to be John McCargo. And those were first round picks. Please try and tell me the average poster here couldn't draft better than this bumb, at least in the first round or two. PS To make matters worse, Preston was taken just two picks before center Jason Brown.
Chandler#81 Posted August 26, 2009 Posted August 26, 2009 Just think how sad it was that he beat out our starting center last year mid season. What does that say about the quality of the players we had on our roster at the time. Yep. I'll be surprized if Dockery isn't kicked to the curb in DC as well. If he isn't, they won't compete, IMO. At least the FO recognized the utter failure and changed 'em out. We'll know soon enough if the changes work.
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