Steely Dan Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Some thoughts (JMO); 1. Almost nobody on the first team looked anywhere close to good. IMO, that's a good thing since it's still preseason. I'd much rather they get schooled during the pre-season than in the regular season. Good teams bounce back with a strong showing the week after an embarrassment like that. The game against the Squealers should go a long way toward seeing where they really stand. 2. One game, especially in the preseason, doesn't determine the forecast for an entire year. They can still put it together. There is plenty of time. Anyone saying 3-13 is way off base here. I don't know what their record will be but I definitely think another 7-9 season is the worst they'll do. 3. TE was schooled last night. Hopefully he learned a lot. Holding the ball against a great D with this O-line just isn't gonna cut it. Also his play calling is weak against a team like GB. They didn't do NH much this game but he still has the ability to change the call at the LOS. 4. Schonert needs to re-evaluate the way he attacks 3-4 defenses. The gameplan, IMO, was lackluster, even for a pre-season game. He has to look hard at his teams weakness' against 3-4 defenses and work around them. I don't think he's doing that well. He can't just look at how other teams have attacked another teams 3-4 defense because they'll have much different personnel. 5. I say shuffle the line right now. Give it two pre-season games of work. I would like to see; LT - D. Bell LG - E. Wood C - Hangartner RG - Butler RT - Walker I just don't think Levitre is ready for prime time yet. IMO, there is very little drop off from Walker to Bell. The best way for Bell to improve is to play. Put him out there. 6. The TO not being on the field argument is weak. Good teams can keep humming without a player. If the offense is so reliant on one player then they have too many problems. Once again this goes back to Schonert's game plans. 7. I don't know if it was the O-line's blocking schemes or just that they can't deal at all with a DL like GB's. If it's the latter then it's gonna be a long season. The inability to run the ball was horrifying when you consider Lynch and Jackson are two of the better RB's in the NFL. 8. It was one preseason game. Don't start crying about the entire season now. At least wait three games into the regular season before starting to gauge how the team will do this season. JMO Here's to great improvement over the next few games and in the regular season.
Lofton80 Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 I agree completely. Bell should get a try at LT, Walker is going to be avg at best on the left. Bell is getting reps on the right side maybe the left is the better answer. I think the short passes are the scheme Turk wants due to the bad line, when that isn't there, GB exposed the result.
Steely Dan Posted August 23, 2009 Author Posted August 23, 2009 Good stuff. Where's the new avatar? ? If you can't see it then empty your cache of TBD stuff. I love you, man. PM me with your phone number and address and you'll me even more!! :thumbsup:
DrFishfinder Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Both Snert and Fewell's game plans are problematic. The offense looks slow and predictable and the defense plays receivers too soft and doesn't seem to adjust. I wonder if RW insisted that Snert and Fewell be retained for "continuity".
Steely Dan Posted August 23, 2009 Author Posted August 23, 2009 Both Snert and Fewell's game plans are problematic. The offense looks slow and predictable and the defense plays receivers too soft and doesn't seem to adjust. I wonder if RW insisted that Snert and Fewell be retained for "continuity". I think Fewell is a decent DC. He's better than what they had. Just give the D a little more time. JMO
GOBILLS78 Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 ? If you can't see it then empty your cache of TBD stuff. That was weird. I saw it last night, but for some reason today it was back to the thug cat. Now it's back to the new one.
Steely Dan Posted August 23, 2009 Author Posted August 23, 2009 That was weird. I saw it last night, but for some reason today it was back to the thug cat. Now it's back to the new one. Hangover?
Mickey Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Some thoughts (JMO); 1. Almost nobody on the first team looked anywhere close to good. IMO, that's a good thing since it's still preseason. I'd much rather they get schooled during the pre-season than in the regular season. Good teams bounce back with a strong showing the week after an embarrassment like that. The game against the Squealers should go a long way toward seeing where they really stand. 2. One game, especially in the preseason, doesn't determine the forecast for an entire year. They can still put it together. There is plenty of time. Anyone saying 3-13 is way off base here. I don't know what their record will be but I definitely think another 7-9 season is the worst they'll do. 3. TE was schooled last night. Hopefully he learned a lot. Holding the ball against a great D with this O-line just isn't gonna cut it. Also his play calling is weak against a team like GB. They didn't do NH much this game but he still has the ability to change the call at the LOS. 4. Schonert needs to re-evaluate the way he attacks 3-4 defenses. The gameplan, IMO, was lackluster, even for a pre-season game. He has to look hard at his teams weakness' against 3-4 defenses and work around them. I don't think he's doing that well. He can't just look at how other teams have attacked another teams 3-4 defense because they'll have much different personnel. 5. I say shuffle the line right now. Give it two pre-season games of work. I would like to see; LT - D. Bell LG - E. Wood C - Hangartner RG - Butler RT - Walker I just don't think Levitre is ready for prime time yet. IMO, there is very little drop off from Walker to Bell. The best way for Bell to improve is to play. Put him out there. 6. The TO not being on the field argument is weak. Good teams can keep humming without a player. If the offense is so reliant on one player then they have too many problems. Once again this goes back to Schonert's game plans. 7. I don't know if it was the O-line's blocking schemes or just that they can't deal at all with a DL like GB's. If it's the latter then it's gonna be a long season. The inability to run the ball was horrifying when you consider Lynch and Jackson are two of the better RB's in the NFL. 8. It was one preseason game. Don't start crying about the entire season now. At least wait three games into the regular season before starting to gauge how the team will do this season. JMO Here's to great improvement over the next few games and in the regular season. I think we all understand that this is preseason and its only one game. It doesn't automatically mean a lousy season. But the inescapable truth is that to the limited extent that game was a window on the regular season, there is plenty to worry about. Getting schooled in preseason is abviously better than in the regular season but better still is not getting schooled at all. Certainly, getting schooled now is no guarantee they won't get whupped just as bad later so I don't see how on earth anyone can consider last night's miserable performance a good thing. They sucked last night, face it, deal with it. And Bell at LT would be a disaster. The best way for him to learn is in practice and in the preseason, not in a game where we would like our QB to make it to half time. You are right, Levitre isn't ready but putting another guy who is also not ready won't remedy that problem, just make it worse because you can hide a crappy guard easier than you can a crappy LT.
Steely Dan Posted August 23, 2009 Author Posted August 23, 2009 I think we all understand that this is preseason and its only one game. It doesn't automatically mean a lousy season. But the inescapable truth is that to the limited extent that game was a window on the regular season, there is plenty to worry about. Getting schooled in preseason is abviously better than in the regular season but better still is not getting schooled at all. Certainly, getting schooled now is no guarantee they won't get whupped just as bad later so I don't see how on earth anyone can consider last night's miserable performance a good thing. They sucked last night, face it, deal with it. And Bell at LT would be a disaster. The best way for him to learn is in practice and in the preseason, not in a game where we would like our QB to make it to half time. You are right, Levitre isn't ready but putting another guy who is also not ready won't remedy that problem, just make it worse because you can hide a crappy guard easier than you can a crappy LT. You haven't read much of the board today have you?
Lori Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 You haven't read much of the board today have you? Okay, I can buy the premise that this is just one preseason game, and Lord knows I've seen plenty of crappy Bills games in August. (Some by teams that ended up in the Super Bowl that season.) That said, the idea that they didn't bother practicing against the 3-4, knowing that 1.) Dom Capers is now in GB, 2.) all three other AFC East teams run it, and 3.) they were 1-8 in games against 3-4 defenses last season, absolutely blows my mind. They didn't think that giving Trent Edwards -- who's been known to struggle against the formation -- a few 3-4 looks might, just might, possibly be a good idea? Oy.
TheChimp Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Face it, if TO can't stay healthy, and if Maybin isn't a freaking Superman, this team blows dead donkey dick. Again.
Dan Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Okay, I can buy the premise that this is just one preseason game, and Lord knows I've seen plenty of crappy Bills games in August. (Some by teams that ended up in the Super Bowl that season.) That said, the idea that they didn't bother practicing against the 3-4, knowing that 1.) Dom Capers is now in GB, 2.) all three other AFC East teams run it, and 3.) they were 1-8 in games against 3-4 defenses last season, absolutely blows my mind. They didn't think that giving Trent Edwards -- who's been known to struggle against the formation -- a few 3-4 looks might, just might, possibly be a good idea? Oy. yeah.
fishmonger Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Comments now that I get to see the game... Pick on Evans was CLEARLY interference. Suspect that might have been called in the reg season. Edwards holding on to the ball too long, JP disease.
Mr. WEO Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 I think we all understand that this is preseason and its only one game. It doesn't automatically mean a lousy season. But the inescapable truth is that to the limited extent that game was a window on the regular season, there is plenty to worry about. Getting schooled in preseason is abviously better than in the regular season but better still is not getting schooled at all. Certainly, getting schooled now is no guarantee they won't get whupped just as bad later so I don't see how on earth anyone can consider last night's miserable performance a good thing. They sucked last night, face it, deal with it. And Bell at LT would be a disaster. The best way for him to learn is in practice and in the preseason, not in a game where we would like our QB to make it to half time. You are right, Levitre isn't ready but putting another guy who is also not ready won't remedy that problem, just make it worse because you can hide a crappy guard easier than you can a crappy LT. Not true--just explain away all of his "sacks allowed" as "communication errors" and he'll be a Pro Bowler!
BillsVet Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Starters versus starters last night was not encouraging. If we're to believe continuity is going to propel this team, then I expect more. The coaching staff remains the same, as do most of the starters on offense and defense, save the OL. Last night I saw a team with nearly a month of practicing and two preseason games regress from last week. For the record I like Edwards, but his last two games he's 17-21 for 124 yards. Losman used to have stat lines like that as well, although the OC has changed. It is indeed one preseason game, but teams should be improving during preseason, not getting worse. The "it's one game" argument carries no weight in my mind, preseason or regular season. I recall watching preseason in 07 and 08 with fans remarking that it was only preseason. Both of those years, it was definitely a foreshadowing of things to come. I firmly believe this season will be no different.
DC Tom Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Okay, I can buy the premise that this is just one preseason game, and Lord knows I've seen plenty of crappy Bills games in August. (Some by teams that ended up in the Super Bowl that season.) That said, the idea that they didn't bother practicing against the 3-4, knowing that 1.) Dom Capers is now in GB, 2.) all three other AFC East teams run it, and 3.) they were 1-8 in games against 3-4 defenses last season, absolutely blows my mind. They didn't think that giving Trent Edwards -- who's been known to struggle against the formation -- a few 3-4 looks might, just might, possibly be a good idea? Oy. I really don't care what they game-plan - or even if they game-plan - for preseason games. If Edwards doesn't get any looks at a 3-4 set in preparation for Green Bay in the preseason...who cares? But he should be getting looks at 3-4 coverage through practice as a matter of course, for just the reasons you say.
eball Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 It was ugly, plain and simple. I'm officially concerned about Edwards. The guy needs to be making quick decisions and chucking it. He looks indecisive -- almost Losman-like. That worries me. I don't care if it's preseason or not -- to have the 1st-stringers embarrassed like that is inexcusable.
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