PDaDdy Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Agreed for the most part. Evans, Reed as the #2 and Parrish are too easy to cover. I have always wondered why we move Reed out of his slot position. He is definitely not a #2 but I think he is a good #3 especially given his ability to block. It seems we would have been better served to keep Reed in the slot and let one of our bigger bodies like Johnson, Jenkins or Huggins fill in for T.O.
apuszczalowski Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Neither is Trent Edwards. I would hope Trent isn't a #1 WR, otherwise this team and coaching staff have even more problems then we know, although it wouldn't suprise me with the way this team likes to move players to other positions, I mean, we did have a converted TE play LT for a few years
StupidNation Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Evans is good for a #2, but he is not a #1. Never has been, never will be. He's too one dimensional. Never over the middle, and does not need a double team. Look at the INT last night in single coverage, no separation, and not aggressive enough for the ball.
sharper802 Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 Don't forget that Evans costs $9 million per season. Guy makes over a million dollars per touchdown. I suggest you turn your hate to the most overrate dplayer on the team. Josh Reed 2.5 million a year(4 yr 10 million contract signed in 2006). 3 TD in 3 years. That would be 2.5 million per TD. Oh but he cathces first downs....
The Senator Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 I suggest you turn your hate to the most overrated player on the team. We traded that guy to the Eagles.
The Senator Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 I would hope Trent isn't a #1 WR, otherwise this team and coaching staff have even more problems then we know, although it wouldn't suprise me with the way this team likes to move players to other positions, I mean, we did have a converted TE play LT for a few years I meant Edwards is not a #1 QB (except on this team) - but you knew that. You're right, though - maybe the coaches aren't sure where he fits best. Lynch played QB in high school - supposedly can chuck the ball 70 yards. Probably has a better arm than Los Gatos Boy - maybe we have them switch positions and see if Trentie-Boy lasts a series.
Flbillsfan#1 Posted August 23, 2009 Posted August 23, 2009 It is only the 3rd preseason Game & Trent apologists are in midseason form.
Stenbar Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 It is only the 3rd preseason Game & Trent apologists are in midseason form. Shouldnt you be on the Las Vegas UFL board now that your boy JP is the man???LOL...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 Shouldnt you be on the Las Vegas UFL board now that your boy JP is the man???LOL... You are not quite up to midseason form yet, I quess you practice like the Bills.
billsfreak Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 Roscoe will never be a #1 or #2 receiver, but it wasn't his or Evan's fault that Edwards looked lost. They didn't make him throw 5 yards behind them, or fumble as he was running for his life. If it is anyone's fault besides Trents', put the blame on the Offensive Line.
billsfreak Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 I suggest you turn your hate to the most overrate dplayer on the team. Josh Reed 2.5 million a year(4 yr 10 million contract signed in 2006). 3 TD in 3 years. That would be 2.5 million per TD. Oh but he cathces first downs.... Josh Reed doesn't put up the big numbers, but he isn't given the chances either. He is however, over the last few years, the most clutch reciever the Bills have had, making more key first down receptions than anyone. Last years most overrated player in is Philly now, and this years hasn't played the last two games because he stubbed his toe.
Wagon Circler Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 Has Trent thrown a TD pass yet this preseason? He did not cross mid-field last night.
StupidNation Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 You are not quite up to midseason form yet, I quess you practice like the Bills. So says the guy who cried and cried when Losman didn't start.
Flbillsfan#1 Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 So says the guy who cried and cried when Losman didn't start. Which year are you talking about?
Thurman#1 Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 "Is it possible that the reason why Trent looked lost because, Lee Evans can't carry off a #1 role and Roscoe is not a #2?" Half-right. Evans is a legit #1, but without a legit #2, any #1 will struggle. And yeah, Roscoe is no #2.
timba Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 It is only the 3rd preseason Game & Trent apologists are in midseason form. Just having a solid preseason performance is all! Somebody has to. I would like to at least see a td pass once from our first string before the season starts. Four preseason games and not once passing touchdown? I don't know HOW that is acceptable. The things that I was hoping to see out of Edwards in the preseason that were supposed to inspire for the year have instead brought doubt... being decisive in the pocket, being aggressive with his throws, getting a blasted touchdown... I just haven't seen it. I've been a supporter of the guy, but at some point he needs to give me a legitimate reason to keep doing so.
bbills17 Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 trent's lost becuase he's a career backup teying to fill a starter's role. He ain't even as good as Fitz. His contract's up after this season.... you wanna pay him Manning money? You're the leader of the bandwagon that jumps on and summarizes careers based on the last quarter of football you watch. Get a clue would you please?
thebandit27 Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 Every time somebody bangs this "Evans isn't a true #1 WR" drum, I am forced to point out that Evans' numbers through 5 seasons are on par with those posted by Andre Reed through 5 seasons. See for yourself: http://www.nfl.com/players/leeevans/profile?id=EVA454901 http://www.nfl.com/players/andrereed/profile?id=REE121548 Totals Evans: 296 rec--4,744 yds--32 TDs Reed: 317 rec--4,408 yds--31 TDs Now unless anyone is going to try to sell me the idea that Andre Reed--twice a semi-finalist for the Pro Football HOF--wasn't a #1 WR, this argument about Evans is foolishness. Next.
PDaDdy Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 Evans is good for a #2, but he is not a #1. Never has been, never will be. He's too one dimensional. Never over the middle, and does not need a double team. Look at the INT last night in single coverage, no separation, and not aggressive enough for the ball. Lee's route running was fine. Trent threw the ball late and with no velocity. Even the commentators pointed out the part about throwing it late.
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 There is A LOT of blame to go around with this team, but I would not put it on Evans. He cannot throw the ball to himself people. Insert Evans into Indy's offense and watch Peyton Manning make him a bonafide star... Ahem. You are right. It is not Lee Evans' fault that he gets totally shut down. He is not a #1 receiver. He gets double teamed and has no tools to defeat that. He is a one trick pony, and when you don't have a legitimate all-over-the-field threat across from him, he won't be at all effective. It also is not Trent's fault, as you just cannot throw the ball to a receiver who is as covered as you can possibly be. Without T.O. in the game, the Bills are doomed. Plain and simple.
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