billybob Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 This is one time I don't blame the Bills front office- Maybin you were picked 11th you get 11th money wtf is so hard about that, fire you agent and get in camp- leave it to Oakland to throw a wrench into things by taking a WR 7th overall who was rated a 2nd round pick- well played sir well played.
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Right, and what does #1 have to do with him holding out? Don't be a dumbass. Idiot fans who think they are draft experts irk the hell out of me, so pardon me if I think you are a moron. Your retarded comments barely justify a response. I suppose the Bills FO is beyond reproach. Whitner over Ngata, Losman, McCan'tgo, Hardy and now Aaron Moneygrubber are just a few of their recent gems. Please don't be an imbecile your whole life.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Anyone care to fill in the blanks? Crabtree is reportedly asking for Darrius Heyward-Bey money and the Cincinnati Bengals are reportedly lowballing Andre Smith and offering him less than Heyward-Bey. 1. Matthew Stafford QB Detroit Signed 6 years, $72 million ($41.7M guaranteed) 2. Jason Smith OT St. Louis Signed 5 years, $61.775 million ($33M guaranteed) 3. Tyson Jackson DE Kansas City Signed 5 years, $57 million ($31M guaranteed) 4. Aaron Curry LB Seattle Signed 6 years, $60 million ($34M guaranteed) 5. Mark Sanchez QB N.Y. Jets Signed 5 years, $60 million ($28M guaranteed) 6. Andre Smith OT Cincinnati Unsigned 7. Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Oakland Signed 5 years, $38.25 million ($23.5M guaranteed) 8. Eugene Monroe OT Jacksonville Signed 5 years, $35.4 million ($19.2M guaranteed) 9. B.J. Raji DT Green Bay Signed 5 years, $28.5 million ($18M guaranteed) 10. Michael Crabtree WR San Francisco Unsigned 11. Aaron Maybin DE Buffalo Unsigned 12. Knowshon Moreno RB Denver Signed 5 years, $23 million ($13M guaranteed) 13. Brian Orakpo DE Washington Signed 5 years, $20 million ($12.1M guaranteed) 14. Malcolm Jenkins CB New Orleans Signed 5 years, up to $19 million ($11M guaranteed) 15. Brian Cushing LB Houston Signed 5 years, $18 million ($10.435M guaranteed) 16. Larry English DE San Diego Signed 5 years, $17.8 million ($9.9M guaranteed) 17. Josh Freeman QB Tampa Bay Signed 5 years, $36 million (10.25M guaranteed) 18. Robert Ayers LB Denver Signed 5 years 19. Jeremy Maclin WR Philadelphia Signed 5 years, $15.5 million ($9.5M guaranteed) 20. Brandon Pettigrew TE Detroit Signed 5 years, $14.6 million ($9.4M guaranteed) 21. Alex Mack C Cleveland Signed 5 years, $15 million ($8.3M guaranteed) 22. Percy Harvin WR Minnesota Signed 5 years, $14.25 million ($8.4M guaranteed) 23. Michael Oher OT Baltimore Signed 5 years, $13 million ($7.82M guaranteed) 24. Peria Jerry DT Atlanta Signed 5 years, $13.25 million ($7.55M guaranteed) 25. Vontae Davis CB Miami Signed 5 years, $13.3 million ($7.35M guaranteed) 26. Clay Matthews LB Green Bay Signed 5 years, $13.2 million ($7.1M guaranteed) 27. Donald Brown RB Indianapolis Signed 5 years, $12.835 million ($6.845M guaranteed) 28. Eric Wood C Buffalo Signed 5 years, $13 million ($6.5M guaranteed) 29. Hakeem Nicks WR N.Y. Giants Signed 5 years, $12.54 million ($6M guaranteed) 30. Kenny Britt WR Tennessee Signed 5 years, $12.25 million ($6.5M guaranteed) 31. Chris "Beanie" Wells RB Arizona Signed 5 years, $11.8 million ($6.345M guaranteed) 32. Evander "Ziggy" Hood DT Pittsburgh Signed 5 years, $11.3 million ($6.1M guaranteed)
The Dean Posted August 19, 2009 Author Posted August 19, 2009 Maybin you were picked 11th you get 11th money wtf is so hard about that I agree, for the most part with the above. But are you CERTAIN the Bills are offering 11th money? I have to believe it takes both sides to screw up something this (seemingly) simple.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 More food for thought. The rookie contracts for last year's Number One picks: 1. Jake Long OT Miami Signed 5 years, $57.5 million ($30M guaranteed) 2. Chris Long DE St. Louis Signed 6 years, $56.5 million ($29M guaranteed) 3. Matt Ryan QB Atlanta Signed 6 years, $72 million ($34M guaranteed) 4. Darren McFadden RB Oakland Signed 6 years, $60 million ($26M guaranteed) 5. Glenn Dorsey DT Kansas City Signed 5 years, $51 million ($23M guaranteed) 6. Vernon Gholston DE N.Y. Jets Signed 5 years, $50 million ($21M guaranteed) 7. Sedrick Ellis DT New Orleans Signed 5 years, $49 million ($19.5M guaranteed) 8. Derrick Harvey DE Jacksonville Signed 5 years, $33.4 million ($17.177M guaranteed) 9. Keith Rivers LB Cincinnati Signed 6 years, $23 million ($15.6M guaranteed) 10. Jerod Mayo LB New England Signed 5 years, $18.9 million ($13.8M guaranteed) 11. Leodis McKelvin CB Buffalo Signed 5 years, $19.4 million ($12.6M guaranteed) 12. Ryan Clady OT Denver Signed 5 years, $17.5 million ($11.5M guaranteed) 13. Jonathan Stewart RB Carolina Signed 5 years, $20 million ($10.795M guaranteed) 14. Chris Williams OT Chicago Signed 5 years, $16 million ($10M guaranteed) 15. Branden Albert OG Kansas City Signed 5 years, $15.8 million ($9.2M guaranteed) 16. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Arizona Signed 5 years, $15.1 million ($9M guaranteed) 17. Gosder Cherilus OT Detroit Signed 5 years, $15 million ($8.9M guaranteed) 18. Joe Flacco QB Baltimore Signed 5 years, $30 million ($8.75M guaranteed) 19. Jeff Otah OT Carolina Signed 5 years, $14.4 million ($8.965M guaranteed) 20. Aqib Talib CB Tampa Bay Signed 5 years, $14 million ($8.2M guaranteed) 21. Sam Baker OT Atlanta Signed 5 years, $13.5 million ($7.8M guaranteed) 22. Felix Jones RB Dallas Signed 5 years, $10.5 million ($8M guaranteed) 23. Rashard Mendenhall RB Pittsburgh Signed 5 years, $12.555 million ($7.125M guaranteed) 24. Chris Johnson RB Tennessee Signed 5 years, $12 million ($7M guaranteed) 25. Mike Jenkins CB Dallas Signed 5 yaers, $9.7 million ($7M guaranteed) 26. Duane Brown OT Houston Signed 5 years, $11.4 million ($6.5M guaranteed) 27. Antoine Cason CB San Diego Signed 5 years, $12.03 million 28. Lawrence Jackson DE Seattle Signed 5 years, $11.25 million ($6.1M guaranteed) 29. Kentwan Balmer DE San Francisco Signed 5 years, $11.5 million ($6M guaranteed) 30. Dustin Keller TE N.Y. Jets Signed 5 years, $12 million ($6M guaranteed) 31. Kenny Phillips FS N.Y. Giants Signed 5 years, $11.15 million
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 So regarding Maybin's fair compensation, perhaps 5 years, $25 million with $15 million guaranteed? Leodis McKelvin in the same spot last year received 5 years, $19.4 million with $12.6 guaranteed. It's a substantial bump up from last year. Perhaps they could include incentives also to make up the difference between the two sides. And I also like taking money off the table as the weeks go by.
Paup 1995MVP Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 From JW's article I think we can all agree that Maybin will not be signed before the Packer's game on Sat. nite. If our DE's such as Ellis and Bryan continue their strong play, than Maybin's position starts to look very tenuous. If he is not in before the Pittsburg game, and talks are still where they are now, we could have a very interesting mess on our hands. I don't see Russ Brandon as a guy who is going to overpay for someone of Maybin's worth. The Bills did not give in to Jason Peters, and they certainly will not give in to Aaron Maybin. We may not be great at picking talent, but our front office does not get pushed around. I think it is not beyond the realm of possibility that all three holdouts may not sign with the teams they were drafted by. If we have a good team without Maybin, does anyone really care if we ever sign him? What about trading his rights for Andre Smith's rights? That would be quite a scenario. Could it happen?
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 From JW's article I think we can all agree that Maybin will not be signed before the Packer's game on Sat. nite. If our DE's such as Ellis and Bryan continue their strong play, than Maybin's position starts to look very tenuous. If he is not in before the Pittsburg game, and talks are still where they are now, we could have a very interesting mess on our hands. I don't see Russ Brandon as a guy who is going to overpay for someone of Maybin's worth. The Bills did not give in to Jason Peters, and they certainly will not give in to Aaron Maybin. We may not be great at picking talent, but our front office does not get pushed around. I think it is not beyond the realm of possibility that all three holdouts may not sign with the teams they were drafted by. If we have a good team without Maybin, does anyone really care if we ever sign him? What about trading his rights for Andre Smith's rights? That would be quite a scenario. Could it happen? I agree that Brandon will not cave. I also think it's ridiculous to think the Bills are lowballing (which only one or two here have suggested). The Bills have not had trouble signing their picks in years and have given fair contracts. The trade scenario you suggested? Well, does Cinci even like Maybin and do the Bills even like Smith? A further difficulty would be that all sides would have to agree to contracts before such a trade was made.
Magox Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Anyone care to fill in the blanks? Crabtree is reportedly asking for Darrius Heyward-Bey money and the Cincinnati Bengals are reportedly lowballing Andre Smith and offering him less than Heyward-Bey. 1. Matthew Stafford QB Detroit Signed 6 years, $72 million ($41.7M guaranteed) 2. Jason Smith OT St. Louis Signed 5 years, $61.775 million ($33M guaranteed) 3. Tyson Jackson DE Kansas City Signed 5 years, $57 million ($31M guaranteed) 4. Aaron Curry LB Seattle Signed 6 years, $60 million ($34M guaranteed) 5. Mark Sanchez QB N.Y. Jets Signed 5 years, $60 million ($28M guaranteed) 6. Andre Smith OT Cincinnati Unsigned 7. Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Oakland Signed 5 years, $38.25 million ($23.5M guaranteed) 8. Eugene Monroe OT Jacksonville Signed 5 years, $35.4 million ($19.2M guaranteed) 9. B.J. Raji DT Green Bay Signed 5 years, $28.5 million ($18M guaranteed) 10. Michael Crabtree WR San Francisco Unsigned 11. Aaron Maybin DE Buffalo Unsigned 12. Knowshon Moreno RB Denver Signed 5 years, $23 million ($13M guaranteed) 13. Brian Orakpo DE Washington Signed 5 years, $20 million ($12.1M guaranteed) 14. Malcolm Jenkins CB New Orleans Signed 5 years, up to $19 million ($11M guaranteed) 15. Brian Cushing LB Houston Signed 5 years, $18 million ($10.435M guaranteed) 16. Larry English DE San Diego Signed 5 years, $17.8 million ($9.9M guaranteed) 17. Josh Freeman QB Tampa Bay Signed 5 years, $36 million (10.25M guaranteed) 18. Robert Ayers LB Denver Signed 5 years 19. Jeremy Maclin WR Philadelphia Signed 5 years, $15.5 million ($9.5M guaranteed) 20. Brandon Pettigrew TE Detroit Signed 5 years, $14.6 million ($9.4M guaranteed) 21. Alex Mack C Cleveland Signed 5 years, $15 million ($8.3M guaranteed) 22. Percy Harvin WR Minnesota Signed 5 years, $14.25 million ($8.4M guaranteed) 23. Michael Oher OT Baltimore Signed 5 years, $13 million ($7.82M guaranteed) 24. Peria Jerry DT Atlanta Signed 5 years, $13.25 million ($7.55M guaranteed) 25. Vontae Davis CB Miami Signed 5 years, $13.3 million ($7.35M guaranteed) 26. Clay Matthews LB Green Bay Signed 5 years, $13.2 million ($7.1M guaranteed) 27. Donald Brown RB Indianapolis Signed 5 years, $12.835 million ($6.845M guaranteed) 28. Eric Wood C Buffalo Signed 5 years, $13 million ($6.5M guaranteed) 29. Hakeem Nicks WR N.Y. Giants Signed 5 years, $12.54 million ($6M guaranteed) 30. Kenny Britt WR Tennessee Signed 5 years, $12.25 million ($6.5M guaranteed) 31. Chris "Beanie" Wells RB Arizona Signed 5 years, $11.8 million ($6.345M guaranteed) 32. Evander "Ziggy" Hood DT Pittsburgh Signed 5 years, $11.3 million ($6.1M guaranteed) Based on these figures, I would say $26 Million with $16 Million gauranteed
NY Nole Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Maybin is Jason Peters all over again. Uggggghhh. Hated the pick on draft day and hate it even more today. To me Eric Wood is the only legit 2009 Bills first round selection. Trade his ass to a willing partner and be done with him.
BuffaloRebound Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Maybin is Jason Peters all over again. Uggggghhh. Hated the pick on draft day and hate it even more today. To me Eric Wood is the only legit 2009 Bills first round selection. Trade his ass to a willing partner and be done with him. What is this guy gonna ask for if he actually does something?
jwws9999 Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 From JW's article I think we can all agree that Maybin will not be signed before the Packer's game on Sat. nite. If our DE's such as Ellis and Bryan continue their strong play, than Maybin's position starts to look very tenuous. If he is not in before the Pittsburg game, and talks are still where they are now, we could have a very interesting mess on our hands. I don't see Russ Brandon as a guy who is going to overpay for someone of Maybin's worth. The Bills did not give in to Jason Peters, and they certainly will not give in to Aaron Maybin. We may not be great at picking talent, but our front office does not get pushed around. I think it is not beyond the realm of possibility that all three holdouts may not sign with the teams they were drafted by. If we have a good team without Maybin, does anyone really care if we ever sign him? What about trading his rights for Andre Smith's rights? That would be quite a scenario. Could it happen? what strong play are you talking about, they suck
Dr. Fong Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 I hated the pick to begin with. Sometimes I hate being right.
NY Nole Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 What is this guy gonna ask for if he actually does something? My thoughts exactly. Don't worry though, cause his publicist Lavar Arrington will keep him grounded. Yeah right.
The Dean Posted August 19, 2009 Author Posted August 19, 2009 I hated the pick to begin with. Sometimes I hate being right. How does this make you right? If the guy turns into a sack artist, for whatever team, are you totally full of shiit?
jonnyb Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 You could really call the bluff of the Maybin camp. Sign D.Brooks and pull your contract offer to Maybin. You'll save a bit of money and the impact at this point could be better for the team than having some snivelling rookie who doesn't know what he is doing all season....
basskik11 Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 What is this guy gonna ask for if he actually does something? I'm not at that point...yet...but I think I will be sometime soon...
billybob Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 From JW's article I think we can all agree that Maybin will not be signed before the Packer's game on Sat. nite. If our DE's such as Ellis and Bryan continue their strong play, than Maybin's position starts to look very tenuous. If he is not in before the Pittsburg game, and talks are still where they are now, we could have a very interesting mess on our hands. I don't see Russ Brandon as a guy who is going to overpay for someone of Maybin's worth. The Bills did not give in to Jason Peters, and they certainly will not give in to Aaron Maybin. We may not be great at picking talent, but our front office does not get pushed around. I think it is not beyond the realm of possibility that all three holdouts may not sign with the teams they were drafted by. If we have a good team without Maybin, does anyone really care if we ever sign him? What about trading his rights for Andre Smith's rights? That would be quite a scenario. Could it happen? wouldn't mind this at all but you'd have to give more than Maybin - add Schouman hahaha
ThereIsNoDog Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 The only problem I can see is that other players and future draft picks my see the tactic as unfair. The Bills would have to point out that Maybin is the exception and that they have had few problems digning others in recent years. Of course the Bills would be correct but the perception could still be otherwise. The Bills could not do much to control that. Either way, Maybin's hand is still forced. Saying it was a situation only pertaining to draft picks is something they could do. But I could see this backfiring WRT FA's and the Bills' own players they want to re-sign. I now think giving Maybin a deadline/ultimatum is the best way to go and then if he balks (which would be monumentally stupid on his part), reveal the offer.
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 being a penn state fan...this is killing me. i am getting to damn frusterated with maybin and his prick of an agent. "Maybin’s value should fall somewhere between the respective five-year contracts signed by Raji ($28.5 million, with just under $18 million guaranteed) and Orakpo ($20 million, with $12.1 million guaranteed)." give the sumbitch 5 years - $24 million, $15 mill guarenteed. was that hard to figure out? i hope crabtree gets his legs snapped off by tko in practice, once the pu$$y signs and reports, and he never sees the playing field.
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