ans4e64 Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 IMO, McKinney is having the worst camp out of all the Bills players on the roster. During camp he gets blown off the ball time after time and during the games he gets penalities left and right. I often wonder how this guy has played on teams before in the NFL. From what I've seen just this season, he should not make the roster... but he is also the only backup we have that is a veteran with game experience. Then there's Chambers. Much more suited as a tackle, IMO. I don't like him at guard. If we cut McKinney because he stinks, who is the swing guard and who is the backup center? You can't move Wood over, that is too disruptive to his development and the rest of the cohesive line IMO. Gaddis? Rodd? All terrible choices. IMO, we don't have any quality depth behind Levitre, Hangartner and Wood. That worries me. I believe there are still plenty of veterans out there that are better than McKinney, Rodd and Gaddis.
BillsGuyInMalta Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 I absolutely agree...but I think the Bills have shown that they are satisfied with the current squad so they won't be bringing anyone else in. If we won't sign a FA to compete with Ellison, we sure as hell won't bring one in for depth.
The Big Cat Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Aside from the perennial contenders, which we're not...YET...are there teams in the league who can say for certain that they ARE deep at C/G?
ans4e64 Posted August 17, 2009 Author Posted August 17, 2009 Aside from the perennial contenders, which we're not...YET...are there teams in the league who can say for certain that they ARE deep at C/G? I'm sure they at least have ONE GUY that can come in for an injured player and not have him suck. We don't even have one, IMO, and that is the point I'm making.
ans4e64 Posted August 17, 2009 Author Posted August 17, 2009 I believe Matt Lehr, Lennie Friedman, Grey Ruegamer, Kendall Simmons, Pete Kendall, Charles Spencer and Kynan Forney are still available (probably some of the are signed by now). But you can't tell me there isn't a guy in that group that is better than Christian Gaddis, Brandon Rodd or McKinney.
The Big Cat Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 I believe Matt Lehr, Lennie Friedman, Grey Ruegamer, Kendall Simmons, Pete Kendall, Charles Spencer and Kynan Forney are still available (probably some of the are signed by now). But you can't tell me there isn't a guy in that group that is better than Christian Gaddis, Brandon Rodd or McKinney. Chambers? I know he's no superstar, but isn't his natural position Guard?
ans4e64 Posted August 17, 2009 Author Posted August 17, 2009 Chambers? I know he's no superstar, but isn't his natural position Guard? I don't think so. I believe he was always a tackle. I like him there, just not at guard, and he certainly can't play center.
VJ91 Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 IMO, McKinney is having the worst camp out of all the Bills players on the roster. During camp he gets blown off the ball time after time and during the games he gets penalities left and right. I often wonder how this guy has played on teams before in the NFL. From what I've seen just this season, he should not make the roster... but he is also the only backup we have that is a veteran with game experience. Then there's Chambers. Much more suited as a tackle, IMO. I don't like him at guard. If we cut McKinney because he stinks, who is the swing guard and who is the backup center? You can't move Wood over, that is too disruptive to his development and the rest of the cohesive line IMO. Gaddis? Rodd? All terrible choices. IMO, we don't have any quality depth behind Levitre, Hangartner and Wood. That worries me. I believe there are still plenty of veterans out there that are better than McKinney, Rodd and Gaddis. I guess you can add that group to the linebackers, who don't have anyone on the second unit who have ever recorded a tackle in the NFL in a regular season game. How's that for "lack of depth"?? I sure hope T.O. and his one year 6.5 Million cap hit stays healthy for all 16 regular season games. Because since the circle jerks spent the money on Owens, they have closed up the cash register for the '09 season, no matter how thin they are at other positions.
The Dean Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 The Bills are thin at backup on both lines, IMO.
ans4e64 Posted August 17, 2009 Author Posted August 17, 2009 I guess you can add that group to the linebackers, who don't have anyone on the second unit who have ever recorded a tackle in the NFL in a regular season game. How's that for "lack of depth"?? I sure hope T.O. and his one year 6.5 Million cap hit stays healthy for all 16 regular season games. Because since the circle jerks spent the money on Owens, they have closed up the cash register for the '09 season, no matter how thin they are at other positions. Yeah but Pat Thomas, Nic Harris, Alvin Bowen? Those guys can at least play. Christian Gaddis? Brandon Rodd? Who the hell are those guys lol?
H2o Posted August 17, 2009 Posted August 17, 2009 Kendall Simmons is still out there I believe. I think he'd be worth a look at the right price
VJ91 Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Kendall Simmons is still out there I believe. I think he'd be worth a look at the right price GREAT take! Of course he would be worth bringing in for a workout to at least make sure he is over his serious injuries. But alas, the Bills keep saying they "like the players they have."
Bill from NYC Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 The Bills are thin at backup on both lines, IMO. I agree. Levitre and Wood were a great start but it takes time to fix years of mistakes and neglect. The Bills would probably be one of the better teams in the NFL if they had a philosophy that placed enough emphasis at the line positions on both offense and defense. Again, the 09 draft was a huge step in the right direction in the early rounds. Let's hope they keep it going in 2010.
Watching since 1964 Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Here's what's going on with Pete Kendall. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...ral-offens.html
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Who cares about that? We are thin at starting offensive tackle...
billsfreak Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 When you have one of the worst two or three Offensive Lines in the NFL, of course you are thin at backup?
Watching since 1964 Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 Who cares about that? We are thin at starting offensive tackle... Who cares about that? Alot of people. Just because we're thin at starting tackle doesn't lessen the importance of people who can come in play if these rookies get hurt. If you have to start rookies at guard, you're real thin at guard.
JinWPB Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 The pre-season is about evaluating talent , so far I have not seen our starters or backups be out played by Tenn. or Chi. Two teams with SB mention this year.Granted they may have wiffed on a play or three but in general they look better than most rosters this decade. The Turk is going to have a tough time this year come cut day.
Sisyphean Bills Posted August 18, 2009 Posted August 18, 2009 It's a good question actually. The line that was blown up was pretty good (though not perfect) at staying healthy. If the Bills lose a nominal starter or two for a long stretch, well, click your ruby slippers furiously and hopefully Lloyd's of London has Trent's back.
ans4e64 Posted August 18, 2009 Author Posted August 18, 2009 The pre-season is about evaluating talent , so far I have not seen our starters or backups be out played by Tenn. or Chi. Two teams with SB mention this year.Granted they may have wiffed on a play or three but in general they look better than most rosters this decade. The Turk is going to have a tough time this year come cut day. Is that really your argument? That our scrubs are ok because they didn't get dominated against other scrubs? Your thought process would have led you to believe Detroit was going to the Super Bowl last year, since they started the Preseason 5-0 and their scrubs dominated other teams' scrubs.
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