Dwight Drane Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Ain't this an ironic Biatch? Private Option needed in Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede316 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 But, but, but...The Chosen One says ours will be better...It must be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Anyone hear Howard Dean talking this morning, or for that matter Kathleen Sebelius or James Carville over the weekend? Looks like there is a lot of backpedaling going on. What a week in politics can do to change things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Ain't this an ironic Biatch? Private Option needed in Canada You notice they are NOT discussing going to the current US system, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 You notice they are NOT discussing going to the current US system, though. Can we stop calling it a system already? We don't have a health care system. We have a health care industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Most countries with single-payer government insurance already also have private insurance companies to people that want them and for extra coverage. They all probably do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I just hope we are paying attention to this...if in fact some sort of health care plan goes forward, this a legitimate concern that we can get in front of..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I must be missing something. Is anyone talking about getting rid of the private option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede316 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I must be missing something. Is anyone talking about getting rid of the private option? No...But the underlying fear is that the government will undercut the private sector by such an amount that private insurance goes the way of the Dodo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I must be missing something. Is anyone talking about getting rid of the private option? Actually, the WH sent out another trial balloon to news shows this past weekend in the form of Sebelius suggesting that the public option wasn't a deal-breaker. This was followed by Obama commenting during a town hall meeting that the public option wasn't that important and, in fact, was only "a sliver" of health care reform. So yes, they were talking about it right up to the moment that the far left (starting with Howard Dean) peed his Depends and responded that no public option meant no health care reform. This lead to the WH doing it's usual post-trial balloon dance of "(Fill in the blank) mispoke." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 and yet universal health care is so entrenched in Canada -- it tops most every poll every time one is taken as something that the nation cannot do without -- that any government that would even suggest cutting a portion of it would be run off to Greenland. of course, introducing private care is an option, though i do know that many Canadians will be leary of even the whisper of a two-tiered system. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 of course, introducing private care is an option, though i do know that many Canadians will be leary of even the whisper of a two-tiered system. jw Except for the rich ones who can afford the trip across the border to have the procedures done in the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Except for the rich ones who can afford the trip across the border to have the procedures done in the US? Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 and yet universal health care is so entrenched in Canada -- it tops most every poll every time one is taken as something that the nation cannot do without -- that any government that would even suggest cutting a portion of it would be run off to Greenland.of course, introducing private care is an option, though i do know that many Canadians will be leary of even the whisper of a two-tiered system. jw I have a client of mine that is a Canadian Doctor, and all though he isn't opposed to his countries health care system, he constantly bitches about how he has to see 40-50 patients a day at $15 a pop and that he only has 5-10 minutes of his time to examine his patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 No...But the underlying fear is that the government will undercut the private sector by such an amount that private insurance goes the way of the Dodo. Actually, the WH sent out another trial balloon to news shows this past weekend in the form of Sebelius suggesting that the public option wasn't a deal-breaker. This was followed by Obama commenting during a town hall meeting that the public option wasn't that important and, in fact, was only "a sliver" of health care reform. So yes, they were talking about it right up to the moment that the far left (starting with Howard Dean) peed his Depends and responded that no public option meant no health care reform. This lead to the WH doing it's usual post-trial balloon dance of "(Fill in the blank) mispoke." Sounds like a lot of fear and speculation, boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Except for the rich ones who can afford the trip across the border to have the procedures done in the US? Which is why they want the private option I guess. It almost has to be more cost-effective for the Canadians than the pseudo-private option you're describing here. The Canadians seek 'A little Capitalism to go with your Socialism' as opposed 'A little Socialism to go with your Capitalism', as is being proposed in our country. The wackos obviously have a problem with the concept of shades of grey - everything is black and white. It reminds me of my 4-year old, but he still has a chance grow out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Sounds like a lot of fear and speculation, boys. You just don't understand economics, self-admittedly. I suggest you study the term "Crowding out" the private sector. Then get back with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 You just don't understand economics, self-admittedly. I suggest you study the term "Crowding out" the private sector. Then get back with me That's only if all of the private sector insurance companies fail to compete in a free market with the public option, right? And who says that Health Care, a vital resource for those who need it, should strictly be provided by a free market? Isn't there some sort of moral standard that should be applied here? And you can stick your economics degree back in your purse, my Mensa prodigy friend, this isn't a difficult concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Aren't you people arguing that this is a sign that public insurance is not good, or not working, actually arguing in favor of Obama's plan that there should be both a private and public plan? Because that is what the writer in the article is arguing for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Sounds like a lot of fear and speculation, boys. At least the liberals are just doing it to each other this week. Admittedly, the absolute internal chaos and confusion of the Democratic party while holding full control of the US government is, at the very least, fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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