The Senator Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 These things are not really "polls" and are representative only of the people who went to that site and took that poll. Nothing else. Trust me. Now, it's possible it reflects the real feelings of Eagle fans, but many things are possible. You could make a dart board with opinions and throw a thousand darts and the results MIGHT reflect reality. But that's no way to judge opinion. Internet polls, that let anyone and everyone vote, are worthless as a real indicator. And that's too bad - for Vick, I mean - I think a mere 56% anti-Vick vote is way better than he should expect, no?
The Dean Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 And that's too bad - for Vick, I mean - I think a mere 56% anti-Vick vote is way better than he should expect, no? i have absolutely no idea what Philly fans think. This poll doesn't give me any new info.
Delete This Account Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 This poll doesn't give me any new info. i think they meant Poles, what do the Italians think? jw sorry, it's late.
Cugalabanza Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 You know what would be a fun trend? For fans to throw dog sh-- at Vick everywhere he goes.
The Dean Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 i think they meant Poles, what do the Italians think? jw sorry, it's late. Well, considering The Senator is a Pole, and I am Italian, you pretty much hit the bird on the beak there.
The Senator Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 You know what would be a fun trend? For fans to throw dog sh-- at Vick everywhere he goes. So you're going to be carrying around a bag of dog schitt? (Just asking.)
Delete This Account Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 Well, considering The Senator is a Pole, and I am Italian, you pretty much hit the bird on the beak there. wow, what were the odds ... jw
thebug Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 These things are not really "polls" and are representative only of the people who went to that site and took that poll. Nothing else. Trust me. Now, it's possible it reflects the real feelings of Eagle fans, but many things are possible. You could make a dart board with opinions and throw a thousand darts and the results MIGHT reflect reality. But that's no way to judge opinion. Internet polls, that let anyone and everyone vote, are worthless as a real indicator. The same could be said for any poll?
Matt in KC Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 These things are not really "polls" and are representative only of the people who went to that site and took that poll. Nothing else. Trust me. Now, it's possible it reflects the real feelings of Eagle fans, but many things are possible. You could make a dart board with opinions and throw a thousand darts and the results MIGHT reflect reality. But that's no way to judge opinion. Internet polls, that let anyone and everyone vote, are worthless as a real indicator. Why are you so hung up, The Dean? No kidding it's not a scientific sampling. It's about as significant as any poll we take here. As an early indicator, I find it interesting that around 50% of those who voted hate it. I suspect it would be about the same on any team/fan board. This is likely to be a huge distraction to the Eagles and I'm interested to see how it plays out. How many protesters will try to get on camera each week?
The Dean Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 The same could be said for any poll? No, not really. A real poll uses relatively carefully sampling, so that it is representative of something other than itself. No internet opt-in pseudo poll meets those requirements. I only press this point, as this sort of thing is contributing to the stupidification of our population. People regularly refer to these polls as evidence of something, when they are evidence of nothing outside of themselves. I'm not suggesting Eagles fans like the Vick signing. I am merely stating this "poll" is worthless as evidence.
Steely Dan Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 POLL: Eagles fans ain't liking Vick signing. PTR Meaningless online, self-selected sample. Worthless as an indicator, actually. The site is called Philaphans so I'm assuming the vast majority of visitors to that site are Eagles fans. Therefore I don't think saying that Eagles fans don't like the signing is that much of a leap. JMO
thebug Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 No, not really. A real poll uses relatively carefully sampling, so that it is representative of something other than itself. No internet opt-in pseudo poll meets those requirements. I only press this point, as this sort of thing is contributing to the stupidification of our population. People regularly refer to these polls as evidence of something, when they are evidence of nothing outside of themselves. I'm not suggesting Eagles fans like the Vick signing. I am merely stating this "poll" is worthless as evidence. All polls are worthless as evidence. Every poll is only a sampling of the people who show up, wether it is in person or online.
The Dean Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 The site is called Philaphans so I'm assuming the vast majority of visitors to that site are Eagles fans. Therefore I don't think saying that Eagles fans don't like the signing is that much of a leap. JMO Probably not a leap. But the poll has no meaning. You can decide to use it as evidence. And you can decide to believe in fairies and Santa Claus, too. If it makes you feel better, it is no less meaningful than any of the polls you start, here. The poll is no more meaningful than asking a few Eagle fans, and using that as your guide. The numbers are useless. Trust me. This was my life, for many years.
The Dean Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 All polls are worthless as evidence. Every poll is only a sampling of the people who show up, wether it is in person or online. Completely false. You have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
thebug Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 Completely false. You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Unles they say what you want I guess.
The Dean Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 Unles they say what you want I guess. No, the Eagle poll has the results I prefer, but they are meaningless as the sample is unusable, and the methodology is...well, absent. Did you skip all of your statistics classes?
rstencel Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 Im just glad it wasnt the bills that signed him, or a team that would ever watch. This way dont have to watch any games he is at, where they talk about a guy on the bench more than the people in the game.
thebug Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 No, the Eagle poll has the results I prefer, but they are meaningless as the sample is unusable, and the methodology is...well, absent. Did you skip all of your statistics classes? Why? how should they have controlled the results?
rstencel Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 Yes, the Eagles are the early favorite to win the Super Bowl. This was before they got Vick. When Trent gets hurt,we'll be wishing we had a solid back up. We still would be if had him. You really think after sitting out a few years, he will be ready to start as a full time QB in year one back. Maybe next year after he gets a year as scout team QB and relearns, or learns depending on who you ask, to read defenses again, and gets back up to speed of the game.
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 14, 2009 Posted August 14, 2009 If you honestly wanted Vick on the Bills, you have no soul. The Eagles may have just replaced the Pats* as my most hated team in the league. Sucks because McNabb is a class dude.
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