MichFan Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Here we are one week removed from the election day, and the assault by libs on flyover country and those with religion has all but assured that the Repubs will continue to increase power if they move forward with a socially conservative agenda over the next 2 years. In 2006 there are 15 Repubs and 18 Dems up for re-election in the Senate. 20 out of 33 Repub wins will not be unachievable, which would give the Repubs a fillibuster-proof majority in the Senate. What was potentially a once-in-a-generation turnout for Republicans will surely become a steadfast, reliable base of voters as long as the assault on their values continues. The Dems should have rebounded by now by making Evan Bayh and Joe Lieberman highly visible on talking head shows. Instead I see the uber-liberal media elites pontificating about the American Christian jihad that has returned Bush to power and the bigotry of the 70%+ who oppose gay marriage. The scary thing for Dems is that an economic recovery by 2006 minimizes the will of their base to vote in a midterm, while the Repub base already can't wait for the midterms to finish the revolution against the liberal counterculture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VabeachBledsoefan Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Here we are one week removed from the election day, and the assault by libs on flyover country and those with religion has all but assured that the Repubs will continue to increase power if they move forward with a socially conservative agenda over the next 2 years. In 2006 there are 15 Repubs and 18 Dems up for re-election in the Senate. 20 out of 33 Repub wins will not be unachievable, which would give the Repubs a fillibuster-proof majority in the Senate. What was potentially a once-in-a-generation turnout for Republicans will surely become a steadfast, reliable base of voters as long as the assault on their values continues. The Dems should have rebounded by now by making Evan Bayh and Joe Lieberman highly visible on talking head shows. Instead I see the uber-liberal media elites pontificating about the American Christian jihad that has returned Bush to power and the bigotry of the 70%+ who oppose gay marriage. The scary thing for Dems is that an economic recovery by 2006 minimizes the will of their base to vote in a midterm, while the Repub base already can't wait for the midterms to finish the revolution against the liberal counterculture. 110790[/snapback] blah, blah blah ....god it gets boring......Christian Jihad.....very funny.....most jihads are not based in dollars but more in faith, beliefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Here we are one week removed from the election day, and the assault by libs on flyover country and those with religion has all but assured that the Repubs will continue to increase power if they move forward with a socially conservative agenda over the next 2 years. In 2006 there are 15 Repubs and 18 Dems up for re-election in the Senate. 20 out of 33 Repub wins will not be unachievable, which would give the Repubs a fillibuster-proof majority in the Senate. What was potentially a once-in-a-generation turnout for Republicans will surely become a steadfast, reliable base of voters as long as the assault on their values continues. The Dems should have rebounded by now by making Evan Bayh and Joe Lieberman highly visible on talking head shows. Instead I see the uber-liberal media elites pontificating about the American Christian jihad that has returned Bush to power and the bigotry of the 70%+ who oppose gay marriage. The scary thing for Dems is that an economic recovery by 2006 minimizes the will of their base to vote in a midterm, while the Repub base already can't wait for the midterms to finish the revolution against the liberal counterculture. 110790[/snapback] I agree wholeheartedly. 2006 is the death knell of the liberal Democratic party. They will be forced to the right, kicking and screaming. An even better thing would be if Dean becomes the DNC chairman. Watch their hopes go swirling donw the hopper if THAT happens!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I wouldn't get to ahead of yourself. Lincoln Chafee has already made rumblings about switching parties if Bush and the other senators are 'too conservative'. Olympia Snowe and a couple of the other Republican loonies might join him. Just because they have an 'R' next to their name might not mean a whole lot in trying to get the 60 seat supermajority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I wouldn't get to ahead of yourself. Lincoln Chafee has already made rumblings about switching parties if Bush and the other senators are 'too conservative'. Olympia Snowe and a couple of the other Republican loonies might join him. Just because they have an 'R' next to their name might not mean a whole lot in trying to get the 60 seat supermajority. 110998[/snapback] I agree, lincoln chafee is a democrat in republican's clothing. However....if more southern democratic senate seats are up for grabs in 06, they could easily switch over to the Republican side of the aisle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichFan Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 blah, blah blah ....god it gets boring......Christian Jihad.....very funny.....most jihads are not based in dollars but more in faith, beliefs Those words are taken straight from the pens of liberal writers in the MSM. I'm not making it up. I agree that the liberal MSM has gone from laughing-my-arse-off funny to just plain boring in their (now) tired and repetitive attacks on anyone who didn't buy into their brainwashing and voted for Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichFan Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 I wouldn't get to ahead of yourself. Lincoln Chafee has already made rumblings about switching parties if Bush and the other senators are 'too conservative'. Olympia Snowe and a couple of the other Republican loonies might join him. Just because they have an 'R' next to their name might not mean a whole lot in trying to get the 60 seat supermajority. Says a lot about the state of the Dems that they have higher hopes of getting some Repubs to bail from the party than actually winning seats in an election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 which would give the Repubs a fillibuster-proof majority in the Senate. 110790[/snapback] This is the kind of stuff that would make for a real Democrat Horror Movie. Oddly enough....as a Right Wing Christian Conservative.....I am not altogether sure that a fillibuster proof majority would be the best thing. "...absolute power corrupts absolutley" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 [C.M. Burns] Eggcellent...60 seats, the House, the Court, and the President. Finally, the Republicans will finally rid themselves of the shameful shackles of checks-and-balances, equal protection, and separation of church and state, so that they may pursue an agenda of radical social conservatism....mwaaha mwaahahahaha. [/C. M. Burns] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I am not altogether sure that a fillibuster proof majority would be the best thing. "...absolute power corrupts absolutley" 111019[/snapback] You are correct. Let's hope that the Dems can get their stevestojan together, and prevent this from happening. Of course, from what I have seen since the election, they still have not caught on as to why they lost and have been losing. I do not have a lot of hope that they can change things around enough before mid-term elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VabeachBledsoefan Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Those words are taken straight from the pens of liberal writers in the MSM. I'm not making it up. I agree that the liberal MSM has gone from laughing-my-arse-off funny to just plain boring in their (now) tired and repetitive attacks on anyone who didn't buy into their brainwashing and voted for Bush. 111006[/snapback] I think your reference to Christian jihad should be more like the Christian purchasing of our government...undue influence is more like it....our government and how it is run is based on the constitution people, not the holy word of God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RabidBillsFanVT Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I think your reference to Christian jihad should be more like the Christian purchasing of our government...undue influence is more like it....our government and how it is run is based on the constitution people, not the holy word of God 111043[/snapback] We have to fight the good fight to keep this sort of Christian extremism from ruining our republic. I think we are just seeking a more moderate voice in power from which to be inspired by, and one that doesn't have huge character issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I don't think a 60 seat majority is a good thing for EITHER party. Even though I don't find much common ground with the Dems these days, I don't trust the Republicans with that level of power. The GOP needs to show a lot more leadership in terms of fiscal restraint before I want that to happen. As others have stated, there are moderates in the Senate that feel the same way and would not be afraid to break from the party (in votes if not in outright change of party designation) to keep it from happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 You are correct. Let's hope that the Dems can get their stevestojan together, and prevent this from happening. Of course, from what I have seen since the election, they still have not caught on as to why they lost and have been losing. I do not have a lot of hope that they can change things around enough before mid-term elections. 111030[/snapback] I agree. I am very concerned about what such a huge republican majority might do to what is left of the labor movement. The Dems are just so controlled by leftist loonies that they appear to be destined to lose, especially in 08. I cannot link it, but the NY Post says that Kerry wants to run again. He can join Hillary, Dean, Sharpton, etc. and assure another Republican victory. I know that you and others are unhappy with the 2 party system, but if the Dems continue to let left wing space cadets dominate their party, they will fade into virtual oblivion and we wont even have 2 viable parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I agree. I am very concerned about what such a huge republican majority might do to what is left of the labor movement. The Dems are just so controlled by leftist loonies that they appear to be destined to lose, especially in 08. I cannot link it, but the NY Post says that Kerry wants to run again. He can join Hillary, Dean, Sharpton, etc. and assure another Republican victory. I know that you and others are unhappy with the 2 party system, but if the Dems continue to let left wing space cadets dominate their party, they will fade into virtual oblivion and we wont even have 2 viable parties. 111150[/snapback] I don't believe the Democrats are dead at all....75,000 votes in Ohio and we'd all be singing a very different tune. But if that were the case, if the Democratic base were to eroded to a degree that they could not compete in Presidental elections or keep a balance in Congress, that would embolden the Republicans to push towards a much more conservative social agenda. This would eventually create a widening dispute with the social moderates in the Republicans party and eventually lead to a split. Maybe we'd could get a third party that way, or at least force the Democrats back to the middle where they would again be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I know that you and others are unhappy with the 2 party system, but if the Dems continue to let left wing space cadets dominate their party, they will fade into virtual oblivion and we wont even have 2 viable parties. 111150[/snapback] Just my prediction, but what I see happening is the Republicans getting their near or full fillibuster-proof senate by mid-terms or 2008. As a result, you will see even more staunch right legislation being pushed through. Bad. The Dems will practically implode, and a third party will become more prominent as a result. The Dems are losing control, and until they get their stevestojan together, they will continue their downward spiral. Bad. The Republicans will screw up, and push stuff too far to the right. This will shift the voters away from the Republican Party, but since the Dems still have not caught on, those voters will be looking at the alternatives outside of the "big two." It will take a little while, but things will start to level out. I hope by then we will have more than two parties with major support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 But if that were the case, if the Democratic base were to eroded to a degree that they could not compete in Presidental elections or keep a balance in Congress, that would embolden the Republicans to push towards a much more conservative social agenda. This would eventually create a widening dispute with the social moderates in the Republicans party and eventually lead to a split. Maybe we'd could get a third party that way, or at least force the Democrats back to the middle where they would again be competitive. 111169[/snapback] Sounds like we are basically saying the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Just my prediction, but what I see happening is the Republicans getting their near or full fillibuster-proof senate by mid-terms or 2008. As a result, you will see even more staunch right legislation being pushed through. Bad. The Dems will practically implode, and a third party will become more prominent as a result. The Dems are losing control, and until they get their stevestojan together, they will continue their downward spiral. Bad. The Republicans will screw up, and push stuff too far to the right. This will shift the voters away from the Republican Party, but since the Dems still have not caught on, those voters will be looking at the alternatives outside of the "big two." It will take a little while, but things will start to level out. I hope by then we will have more than two parties with major support. 111174[/snapback] KRC, will you please be more descriptive when you say that the dems are "losing control?" Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Just my prediction, but what I see happening is the Republicans getting their near or full fillibuster-proof senate by mid-terms or 2008. As a result, you will see even more staunch right legislation being pushed through. Bad. The Dems will practically implode, and a third party will become more prominent as a result. The Dems are losing control, and until they get their stevestojan together, they will continue their downward spiral. Bad. The Republicans will screw up, and push stuff too far to the right. This will shift the voters away from the Republican Party, but since the Dems still have not caught on, those voters will be looking at the alternatives outside of the "big two." It will take a little while, but things will start to level out. I hope by then we will have more than two parties with major support. 111174[/snapback] This would be the ideal situation. Perhaps the lefties could come to their senses and abandon big-government entitlement mentalities for a more classical liberal approach---an anti-Federalist libertarian approach. That's what liberalism's supposed to be, IMO. Now an interesting question arises: What would happen if the unprecedented happened? What if the Republicans gained the filibuster-proof majoritey, controlled the house and the White house AND the courts? How could anyone legitimately challenge their authority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 KRC, will you please be more descriptive when you say that the dems are "losing control?" Thanks. 111190[/snapback] They lost to an EXTREMELY beatable candidate in Bush. They have continued to lose seats in Congress. After this election, they still have not grasped why they lost. Instead of looking within themselve to find how they can better connect with the American people, they just blame it on people being too stupid to buy into their rhetoric. Until they start to grasp why they lost, they will continue to lose and as long as they just continue down the same path (or worse yet, become more bitter and hateful) they will lose more and more control. I am not seeing the necessary changes from within the party to say that they can turn the corner. They are continuing down the same destructive path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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