ExiledInIllinois Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Line of "Clunkers" Among those in better shape is a maroon 1987 Chevrolet Caprice Classic, with matching maroon velour seats. It is the kind of land whale that once dominated the roadways. It is also a reminder that while $4,500 off on a new car is enticing, it also means losing an old friend. Believe it or not... Aren't we making more of an enviro problem by the footprint a new auto demands? This one is a 1988 model with just 37,000 miles and not so much as a dent or a torn seat or any sign of wear in the plush tan carpeting. "The older employees, they lost sleep at night thinking this car is going to get cubed," Gibson said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 a 19 year old because she "likes new stuff" and a woman on her 83rd birthday both gave up perfectly good cars.....i guess it's their money... Line of "Clunkers" Among those in better shape is a maroon 1987 Chevrolet Caprice Classic, with matching maroon velour seats. It is the kind of land whale that once dominated the roadways. It is also a reminder that while $4,500 off on a new car is enticing, it also means losing an old friend. Believe it or not... Aren't we making more of an enviro problem by the footprint a new auto demands? This one is a 1988 model with just 37,000 miles and not so much as a dent or a torn seat or any sign of wear in the plush tan carpeting. "The older employees, they lost sleep at night thinking this car is going to get cubed," Gibson said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 a 19 year old because she "likes new stuff" and a woman on her 83rd birthday both gave up perfectly good cars.....i guess it's their money... The $4500 is not "Their Money," It's Ours and it's borrowsd to boot! Now we all get to KEEP THE CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 A lot of these vehicles must be hardly driven in the past year unless there is some sort of minimum mileage requirement. Therefore I doubt the environmental bonus is that big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 A lot of these vehicles must be hardly driven in the past year unless there is some sort of minimum mileage requirement. Therefore I doubt the environmental bonus is that big. There is no environmental bonus in this program. Most of the environmental impact of a car is in the manufacturing and disposal phases of it's life span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodBye Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 My 13 year old Corolla with 125K plus miles on it didn't qualify because, by their calculations, it still gets 25 MPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 i meant the car payments they were going to incur....it's their money to spend if the want The $4500 is not "Their Money," It's Ours and it's borrowsd to boot! Now we all get to KEEP THE CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 My 13 year old Corolla with 125K plus miles on it didn't qualify because, by their calculations, it still gets 25 MPG. I hate this program, but if my 1999 Taurus 24v V6 got just 1 MPG less and thus qualified for this program, I would be exploiting it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodBye Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I hate this program, but if my 1999 Taurus 24v V6 got just 1 MPG less and thus qualified for this program, I would be exploiting it myself. Don't they take age in to factor?? IMO, I consider my car a "clunker." Oh well, it's paid off and still runs good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 And the biggest winner is....an SUV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 My son drives a 67 mustang.....it barely runs and while a classic isnt worth much. I offered to get a new economy type car given the current clunker thing and the other incentives they are doing..... No way.....wont part with that car for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 We turned our 1997 van into a car (easiest way to get the full cash is downsizing) but we have been considering doing it for a while anyways. If not for CARS program we may have just kept it for errands since we probably would not have gotten too much in rebate so we government got it off the road. 115K in 12 years with very little issues and it was made in Detroit. I hope car bought is as reliable as old van. My wife objected every time salesman called it a clunker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 We turned our 1997 van into a car (easiest way to get the full cash is downsizing) but we have been considering doing it for a while anyways. If not for CARS program we may have just kept it for errands since we probably would not have gotten too much in rebate so we government got it off the road. 115K in 12 years with very little issues and it was made in Detroit. I hope car bought is as reliable as old van. My wife objected every time salesman called it a clunker. And the improved gas mileage you will get is so much better on the environment than the combined effect on the environment of manufacturing a new car out of steel and plastic (which tend to be made from petro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 A lot of these vehicles must be hardly driven in the past year unless there is some sort of minimum mileage requirement. Therefore I doubt the environmental bonus is that big. Exactly... Most of them are sitting around registered. The enviro is actually WORSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 There is no environmental bonus in this program. Most of the environmental impact of a car is in the manufacturing and disposal phases of it's life span. What he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 My son drives a 67 mustang.....it barely runs and while a classic isnt worth much. I offered to get a new economy type car given the current clunker thing and the other incentives they are doing..... No way.....wont part with that car for anything. Even more so with older Jeeps like CJ's, YJ's, and even now TJ's (shudder) people would be out of their mind to crush them... Do you even see them in a junk yard anyway? What I mean is that even as a whole they might not function... Yet, because of almost 60 years of standardization, many of the separate parts are golden! This has to be hurting the junk yard business... And really we are going the opposite of an enviro positive direction. This is what I hate about the liberals/Dems! Phucking maroons! Shouldn't the plan be: Reduce Reuse Recycle NOT BUILD NEW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 We turned our 1997 van into a car (easiest way to get the full cash is downsizing) but we have been considering doing it for a while anyways. If not for CARS program we may have just kept it for errands since we probably would not have gotten too much in rebate so we government got it off the road. 115K in 12 years with very little issues and it was made in Detroit. I hope car bought is as reliable as old van. My wife objected every time salesman called it a clunker. Good for your wife! I take that there may not be many out ther like her... In fact the opposite! On another note: Ever see Cars of Cuba? Cars of Cuba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Good for your wife! I take that there may not be many out ther like her... In fact the opposite! On another note: Ever see Cars of Cuba? Cars of Cuba Heard about site but never saw that site. Not really have any pity for country which nationalized businesses. Some friends lived there before Castro with small businesses and they lost almost everything. What Castro government did not take Castro supporters forced them to sell on the cheap. There are not many like my wife at all. If we did not get the deal we wanted we would have continued driving van so incentive worked. The money came from savings in bank; economy tanked so much from 2008 that banks are now paying almost nothing to customers because they can borrow on the cheap so keeping it in bank once CD matured made no financial sense anyways. We were going to trade/sell it a while ago when gas prices spiked but decided to try a tune up instead. We were getting poor gas mileage in local miles and poor pickup on PA mountains but after tune up it was working fairly well again regarding gas mileage. Round trips to Buffalo from VA still only took two or three fillups. We bought a new one because it is getting harder each year for reinspection in VA and we really do not NEED a van anymore. The Aveo being a hatchback has enough space for when she needs to do work pickups (not much work right now in recession) but even with not doing weekly pickups we were still doing 7-8K a year putting more miles on my car instead. My wife is petite and unlike most small cars its seat is adjustable enough that she can see well height wise and still reach the petals comfortably. Maybe a little tough on trips to Buffalo with us being used to space both people and cargo but we will adapt with trips occuring far less often now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 Heard about site but never saw that site. Not really have any pity for country which nationalized businesses. Some friends lived there before Castro with small businesses and they lost almost everything. What Castro government did not take Castro supporters forced them to sell on the cheap. There are not many like my wife at all. If we did not get the deal we wanted we would have continued driving van so incentive worked. The money came from savings in bank; economy tanked so much from 2008 that banks are now paying almost nothing to customers because they can borrow on the cheap so keeping it in bank once CD matured made no financial sense anyways. We were going to trade/sell it a while ago when gas prices spiked but decided to try a tune up instead. We were getting poor gas mileage in local miles and poor pickup on PA mountains but after tune up it was working fairly well again regarding gas mileage. Round trips to Buffalo from VA still only took two or three fillups. We bought a new one because it is getting harder each year for reinspection in VA and we really do not NEED a van anymore. The Aveo being a hatchback has enough space for when she needs to do work pickups (not much work right now in recession) but even with not doing weekly pickups we were still doing 7-8K a year putting more miles on my car instead. My wife is petite and unlike most small cars its seat is adjustable enough that she can see well height wise and still reach the petals comfortably. Maybe a little tough on trips to Buffalo with us being used to space both people and cargo but we will adapt with trips occuring far less often now. That is awesome... Sounds like the deal worked out well for you! I just have a problem with the crushing part. There is a reason why junk yards make money. I am a liberal and even this "shoe horning" by the gov't sends willy's down my spine. You made the right choice! I wonder how many didn't and over bought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Politically I am all over spectrum so politics did not factor into decision. I probably could have waited, spent a lot more time and got a better deal but the government blows so many things it was not worth the chance. I had a better deal than one I took but my wife did not want a red car and I was not too hot on red car either so we took the blue one she wanted. We checked a lot of dealers in area and their were not many models with combination of options we wanted and options we did not want. The one thing that really got me nervous about red one was someone (according to dealer) ran down battery and dealer made it seem like it was no big deal because battery was covered under warranty; this resulted in clock and other things not be set. Salesman needed to leave engine running at door. It also had only 7 miles on it but tank was almost empty so we needed to go with salesman to gas station to put $10 of gas into it. Salesman did not even put on plates saying they do this all of time. This combination of things made me wonder about details there. If a good real estate agent was selling car everything would be just right with new car feeling, air freshener in car, full gas, all controls set, etc. In some ways car dealers are like communes because unlike houses salesmen have no incentive for any particular car so if someone tracked mud on floor mats no big deal to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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