MattM Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 Players in Buffalo are going to help Mike Vick with his appeal???? Look, if you think he's going to appeal this decision, this incredible gift from God(ell), your are simply insane. Actually, many sources I've seen this afternoon link him to the Pats* as his most likely landing spot. Vick himself has said he's close to signing with someone. If it is indeed the Pats*, then that does quite clearly explain his "incredible gift from God(ell)" you wrote about--nothing like having friends in the League offices, huh? BTW, I called this one (Vick to Pats*) about a week ago, as soon as I saw he only got 4 games......
Steely Dan Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 Nah, Hitler just made a mistake. They should have given him a second chance. Like Hinkley.
Guest dog14787 Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 Actually, I had issue with your suggestion that even if he was planning an appeal, he would be heading to Buffalo for any reason connected to this, or that this would be "logical". But, keeping in mind that you could "care less", your even allowing a "big if" regarding an appeal reveals that you don't understand the huge break Vick got and the precariuos position he remains in. Put anther way (again), he will never appeal this and there is absolutely no "logical" reason to allow for even the remote possibility that he would. My smart arss reply was uncalled for and you have my apology.
DC Tom Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 Wasn't his mistake was that he got caught? He didn't know what his friends were doing. He just let them borrow Germany.
Red Posted July 30, 2009 Posted July 30, 2009 He got his job back?I didn't realize he was playing QB for the Falcons this year. oh c'mon! we're going to argue over semantics, here? Being reinstated in the NFL is him being indemnified by the league. He is being given back the opportunity to compete, and win a position on a squad. When a player is drafted, does he automatically win a spot on a team? Could anyone 'normal' Joe, under these same circumstances, be even hired back as janitor had he been partner or something of that nature? None of us would even make it in the door and if attempted, would be escorted out by the police. He's a convicted felon. The only reason he is getting another shot is because of the (potential) money it can bring the NFL. Is that fair?
Red Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 somehow I could see him in a Dolphins jersey. If that didn't happen, the Raiders would be a guess. But now that Favre has decided that he is not playing again...would Minnesota try him out?
WVUFootball29 Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 somehow I could see him in a Dolphins jersey. If that didn't happen, the Raiders would be a guess. But now that Favre has decided that he is not playing again...would Minnesota try him out? Why? they already have their "Wildcat" QB in Patrick White I doubt anyone takes a serious run at Vick this season unless they are San Fran or someone who has a serious injury in camp.
Simon Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 oh c'mon! we're going to argue over semantics, here? Being reinstated in the NFL is him being indemnified by the league. He is being given back the opportunity to compete, and win a position on a squad. When a player is drafted, does he automatically win a spot on a team? Could anyone 'normal' Joe, under these same circumstances, be even hired back as janitor had he been partner or something of that nature? None of us would even make it in the door and if attempted, would be escorted out by the police. He's a convicted felon. The only reason he is getting another shot is because of the (potential) money it can bring the NFL. Is that fair? I don't see it as semantics. Real world example: I'm a waiter for JoeMama's Restaurant. Turns out I fight dogs on the side and am arrested for it. Naturally I lose my job at JoeMama's while I'm in lock down. Are you saying that when I get out that I can't or shouldn't be able to go wait tables at Granny's Diner?
WVUFootball29 Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I don't see it as semantics. Real world example:I'm a waiter for JoeMama's Restaurant. Turns out I fight dogs on the side and am arrested for it. Naturally I lose my job at JoeMama's while I'm in lock down. Are you saying that when I get out that I can't or shouldn't be able to go wait tables at Granny's Diner? You're not in the national spotlight or viewed as an idol at the corner diner.
The Dean Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 You're not in the national spotlight or viewed as an idol at the corner diner. It's clear you've never eaten at Granny's Diner. Sure, Granny will hire anyone (she's an ex con herself) but she makes one kick-ass meatloaf.
Simon Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 It's clear you've never eaten at Granny's Diner. Sure, Granny will hire anyone (she's an ex con herself) but she makes one kick-ass meatloaf. Memphis Women and Fried Chicken! You're not in the national spotlight or viewed as an idol at the corner diner. So there should be different rules dependent upon ones station in life?
H2o Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl Patriots | Belichick praises Vick's athleticism Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:15:58 -0700 The Associated Press reports New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick praised free-agent QB Michael Vick's (Falcons) athleticism, but he would not say whether the team was interested in Vick. Belichick said, "Michael is an outstanding player, hasn't played in a couple of years. But right now, our focus is on our team and our players and trying to get the New England Patriots ready, and so that's really where my attention's been. But he's a tremendous athlete. Where exactly he is right now, I don't know." This would suck beyond all forms of sucking if the Pats pulled the trigger on Vick to add the Wildcat to their offensive repertiore.
Guest dog14787 Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Memphis Women and Fried Chicken! So there should be different rules dependent upon ones station in life? I think professional Athletes in some sports should be held to Higher standards because they often times become role models for the younger generation. To work at a Nuclear plant the security clearances you have to pass alone will disqualify you if you have a felony record. Priests, Law Enforcement, Military, I could go on and on but the point I'm trying to make is there are different rules depending on ones station in life in my opinion.
The Dean Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl This would suck beyond all forms of sucking if the Pats pulled the trigger on Vick to add the Wildcat to their offensive repertiore. NFL Network suggests the Pats are NOT interested in Vick, nor are the Steelers (contrary to some previous reports).
Simon Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I think professional Athletes in some sports should be held to Higher standards because they often times become role models for the younger generation. To work at a Nuclear plant the security clearances you have to pass alone will disqualify you if you have a felony record. Priests, Law Enforcement, Military, I could go on and on but the point I'm trying to make is there are different rules depending on ones station in life in my opinion. Did you just compare ballplayers to cops, soldiers and priests? I couldn't agree more!
The Dean Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I think professional Athletes in some sports should be held to Higher standards because they often times become role models for the younger generation. To work at a Nuclear plant the security clearances you have to pass alone will disqualify you if you have a felony record. Priests, Law Enforcement, Military, I could go on and on but the point I'm trying to make is there are different rules depending on ones station in life in my opinion. And professional athletes are entertainers. Do you think entertainers should be held to a very high standard of conduct?
Guest dog14787 Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Did you just compare ballplayers to cops, soldiers and priests? I couldn't agree more! I suppose in a " You may not get your job back way" I think I did .
WVUFootball29 Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Memphis Women and Fried Chicken! So there should be different rules dependent upon ones station in life? No, but if you get convicted of a felony and lie to your boss, don't expect your job to be waiting for you when you get back. I worked a police officer for 4 years, if I was convicted of a felony, i'd never get another police job again....how's that compare?
Guest dog14787 Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I separate team and organizational sports athletes from Individual Entertainers because a movie actor for instance doesn't downgrade a whole league or organization, they are judged on their individual actions. Parents can monitor what actor or show their children watch. The Football, baseball, and basketball game you take your kids to on the other hand, you expect for the most part to be good, wholesome family entertainment. Schools often require the proper grades to participate in school related sports so even at an early age a higher standard is required and is a big reason sports is important to our younger generation, it helps keep them out of trouble and on the right path.
Pitta Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Mike Singletary could do a good job deflecting the media, but my opinion is based on the man not the color of his skin. Can Singletary relate, yes he can , but he's a football coach not a shrink and its not up to him to have to take Michael Vick by the hand and protect him from the nasty piranha we call the media. Michael Vick is a man who can stand up for himself and I think he's perfectly content to take any opportunity he can to start in the NFL regardless if the head coach is white or black and to suggest otherwise is ludicrous. ( something a moron might suggest) Left wing animal rights groups and the like are heading Vick's way. Is it moronic to think an agressive visible minority head coach can be a better shield from these left wing groups? It's simple politics man.
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