Simon Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Just sayin... no problem While we don't encourage moderation discussion on the board (starts us down a slimy shale path that inevitably ends in a 400 foot cliff) I don't mind an occasional bit of feedback around this time of year.
Pitta Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 I bet Vick goes to the Pats These are the kinds of moves they have made in the past and worked out well for them. He will be a perfect citizen just like Moss and love it there. The Pats want to win at all costs. I see this as a perfect move for them. Imagine Vick coming in on 2nd and 1 etc. It could be deadly.
BarkLessWagMore Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 I bet Vick goes to the Pats These are the kinds of moves they have made in the past and worked out well for them. He will be a perfect citizen just like Moss and love it there. The Pats want to win at all costs. I see this as a perfect move for them. Imagine Vick coming in on 2nd and 1 etc. It could be deadly. Imagine if he gets near someone's Golden Retreiver. Same result.
Omar Little Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 From the horse's mouth, Russ Brandon confirms the Bills are not interested in Vick. Thank god. Outstanding news. Doesn't get any better than that.
X. Benedict Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Imagine if he gets near someone's Golden Retreiver. Same result. I still think he should be forced to fetch punts.
The Senator Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 There are 6 threads dedicated solely to TO in training camp (two started by the same person), three dedicated to TOs TV show and one titled "TO eats a bowl of cereal". That one's mine I figured if SKOOOOOOOOOOOBY can start a new thread every time Chris Brown posts something in his blog - be it Ryan Denny getting poked in the eye, Shawn Nelson not chartering a private jet to make the morning practice, someone picking a booger out of their nose and giving it to SKOOOOOOOOOOOBY as a souvenier, or what have you - well, I thought folks would be just as interested in what T.O. had for breakfast that morning!
Red Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 this is an extremely good example of the double-standard applied to professional athletes, entertainers, etc. If one of us were to be discovered to be running an underground dog fighting ring, our employer would most likely fire us (or make it so hard we would quit) and we would NEVER be allowed to go back to said position. Why is Vick any different? It reeks of money.
Red Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Double standard? How many regular people are prosecuted under Conspiracy to Travel in the Aid of Unlawful Activities statutes? He was probably targeted and prosecuted precisely because he wasn't a average person. so had he 'ordinary' status they would have let him walk?
Jerry Jabber Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Double standard? How many regular people are prosecuted under Conspiracy to Travel in the Aid of Unlawful Activities statutes? He was probably targeted and prosecuted precisely because he wasn't a average person. Here's the law on Animal Cruelty in Virginia: VA. Code Ann. 3.1-796.122 Cruelty to animals is defined as: “overrides, overdrives, overloads, tortures, ill-treats, abandons, willfully inflicts inhumane injury or pain, or cruelly or unnecessarily beats, maims, mutilates, or kills any animal, whether belonging to himself or another; deprives any animal of necessary food, drink, shelter or emergency veterinary treatment; sores any equine for any purpose or administers drugs or medications to alter or mask such soring for the purpose of sale, show, or exhibition of any kind, unless such administration of drugs or medications is within the context of a veterinary client-patient relationship and solely for therapeutic purposes; willfully sets on foot, instigates, engages in, or in any way furthers any act of cruelty to any animal; carries or causes to be carried in or upon any vehicle, vessel or otherwise any animal in a cruel, brutal, or inhumane manner; or causes or permits any of the above things,” or killing a dog or cat for it’s hide, fur or pelt. This is a Class 1 Misdemeanor with a fine up to $2500 and/or imprisonment up to 1 year. A second or subsequent conviction of the above, or who “tortures, willfully inflicts inhumane injury or pain not connected with bona fide scientific or medical experimentation, or cruelly and unnecessarily beats, maims, mutilates or kills any animal whether belonging to himself or another;” or does the same to a dog or cat “that is a companion animal and as a direct result causes the death” or euthanasia of that animal is a Class 6 Felony with a fine up to $2500. Other sentencing provisions include anger management or psychological counseling, and being prohibited from possessing or owning companion animals. Exemptions are made for veterinary practice, dehorning of cattle, wildlife management, hunting, fishing and trapping, farming activities, and protection of life or property. Abandonment of an animal was removed from cruelty to animals and it is now classified as highway littering, with a fine from $250 to $2500 and/or imprisonment for up to 12 months, however the court may suspend any sentence on the condition that the defendant volunteer to remove litter from the highway. Vick admitted to imhumanely killing 8 dogs, so that counts as a Class six felony. And this doesn't even touch on running an illegal dogfighting operation, illegally betting on the dog fights, operating dog fights in multiple states. But hey, this guy is an athlete and can bring in millions of dollars, so he should be able to go back to making millions of dollars
Jerry Jabber Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Vick NOT coming to Buffalo per the Snooze. Thank you Russ!!!!!
X. Benedict Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 so had he 'ordinary' status they would have let him walk? I don't think there would have been a federal prosecution for someone as little known as ......... Ron Mexico. It would have stayed a state investigation, and probably prosecuted as a felony under state statutes (and rightly so). In other words, it wouldn't have become a Federal matter without his high profile. Which IMO is a double standard.
The Senator Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Vick NOT coming to Buffalo per the Snooze. Chalk up another one for Walter 'SKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBY' Mitty and his 'inside sources'
Pitta Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Watch a proven franchise sign this guy and he delivers when needed.
Cugalabanza Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Watch a proven franchise sign this guy and he delivers when needed. Domino's Pizza?
BillsGuyInMalta Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Vick NOT coming to Buffalo per the Snooze. Bills are (for some ungodly reason) set with the roster. While I don't advocate signing Vick, the fact that this team seems happy with this current squad astounds me.
KD in CA Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 There are 6 threads dedicated solely to TO in training camp (two started by the same person), three dedicated to TOs TV show and one titled "TO eats a bowl of cereal". This just in: TO is actually a member of the Buffalo Bills, not an unemployed ex-con.
The Senator Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 The Senator is right---especially this zazzie guy. Look, K-9, if your point is that anyone can sue anyone for anything, I won't argue against that. But this case would be hopeless, if it was ever heard. No one has challenged the Commish. They all sign a contract which spells out the conditions under which they remain employed by the NFL. They, through thier union, have all agreed that the Commish alone sets the punishment and he alone considers the appeal. There would therefore be no basis for the suit. You know, I was actually going to preface that post with, "For once, I find myself in rare agreement with Mr. WEO!" Indeed, in this litigious age, anyone can file a law suit and have at least some chance that it will not be dismissed as 'frivolous', then hope for a financial settlement. However, as you correctly state, Mr. Mexico...er...um...Michael Vick has absolutely no grounds for any legal action regarding his suspension or possible reinstatement, and the National Football League certainly has the financial resources and stamina to outlast any futile efforts by Mr. Mexico, er, Vick. Link - The Original Ron Mexico On a personal note, while I would never want to see him in a Bills uniform and don't think he belongs in the NFL either, I do hope he can establish himself as a wage-earner so that perhaps he can pay damages to some of the victims to whom he knowingly passed along his STDs... Woman claims star NFL quarterback passed along herpes in 2003 Finally, I took the liberty of plugging the name "Mister WEO" into the 'Ron Mexico Name Generator' - your new Ron Mexico name is 'Peter Fiji'... Link - Ron Mexico Name Generator
thebug Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 Finally, I took the liberty of plugging the name "Mister WEO" into the 'Ron Mexico Name Generator' - your new Ron Mexico name is 'Peter Fiji'... Link - Ron Mexico Name Generator Mine came out "Dante Nepal". Cool
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