BillsVet Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Bills negotiations with Maybin Evidently, apparently, allegedly, the Bills are not deeply involved in negotiations with Aaron Maybin. Now, I'm sure part of this is Parker being his usual hard-a$$ self in trying to get the best deal for his client. And the Bills aren't going to throw a blank check to their newest DE. Still, it's disconcerting that the two sides are so far apart on a deal. EDIT: removed topic description Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 All the rookies could use the extra work. All of them. In Maybin's case though, it isn't that hard to come in and be a situational pass rusher. The guys I REALLY WISH WERE SIGNED AND IN CAMP are Wood and Levitre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Bills negotiations with Maybin Evidently, apparently, allegedly, the Bills are not deeply involved in negotiations with Aaron Maybin. Now, I'm sure part of this is Parker being his usual hard-a$$ self in trying to get the best deal for his client. And the Bills aren't going to throw a blank check to their newest DE. Still, it's disconcerting that the two sides are so far apart on a deal. EDIT: removed topic description Note: Maybin is represented by Chafie Fields/Joel Segal, not Parker, who represents Jairus Byrd. I also take issue with the Pro Football Talk post referencing this to be "a holdout." By definition and by reality it is not. Jason Peters was holding out. Aaron Maybin is unsigned. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 Note: Maybin is represented by Chafie Fields/Joel Segal, not Parker, who represents Jairus Byrd.I also take issue with the Pro Football Talk post referencing this to be "a holdout." By definition and by reality it is not. Jason Peters was holding out. Aaron Maybin is unsigned. jw Thanks John for the correction. I know there's been some confusion about holdouts versus unsigned status. It seems a more apt description to call a rookie unsigned as opposed to holding out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I believe Maybin's agent is waiting for Crabtree and Moreno to sign before he will negotiate a contract. That means it looks like Maybin will be out for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Thanks John for the correction. I know there's been some confusion about holdouts versus unsigned status. It seems a more apt description to call a rookie unsigned as opposed to holding out. calling an unsigned rookie a holdout puts the onus solely on the player. the player might be "holding out" for money more money, but the team is also "holding out" for less money. they're both holdouts in that sense. that's why most in the business go with "unsigned." jw EDITED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Oddly enough, Maybin had tweeted that his deal was getting close a couple weeks back - wonder what happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I wonder if the Bills have the perspective that he needs about a year's worth of muscle and weight to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 John - shouldn't you be getting ready for that call with Sirius in 10 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMan Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 All the rookies could use the extra work. All of them. In Maybin's case though, it isn't that hard to come in and be a situational pass rusher. The guys I REALLY WISH WERE SIGNED AND IN CAMP are Wood and Levitre. Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode54 Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 This is going to be a stupid question, but here goes...can a player practice if he's not signed and hope a deal works out in time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 This is going to be a stupid question, but here goes...can a player practice if he's not signed and hope a deal works out in time? I believe it has happened in the past when the two sides are very close and if so, the player would then take out an insurance policy to cover himself in case of an injury before the contract officially takes effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I believe it has happened in the past when the two sides are very close and if so, the player would then take out an insurance policy to cover himself in case of an injury before the contract officially takes effect. of course any player with an agent with half a brain would not do this as he gives up all leverage to get a deal a done. what does the team lose by dragging its feet to finish the deal if the player is in camp already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 John - shouldn't you be getting ready for that call with Sirius in 10 minutes i was, though they made me wait an extra 5 minutes. didn't realize i was going to be on for 15. i like Alex. have dealt with him on numerous occasions. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Note: Maybin is represented by Chafie Fields/Joel Segal, not Parker, who represents Jairus Byrd.I also take issue with the Pro Football Talk post referencing this to be "a holdout." By definition and by reality it is not. Jason Peters was holding out. Aaron Maybin is unsigned. jw He is not practicing because he is holding out for more money. Therefore, he is a holdout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I hate the Bills wait for other teams to set the market. He prob. won't sign until the people drafted around him sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 He is not practicing because he is holding out for more money. Therefore, he is a holdout. and the bills are holding out for less money. so which of the two are holding out: both, perhaps. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Note: Maybin is represented by Chafie Fields/Joel Segal, not Parker, who represents Jairus Byrd.I also take issue with the Pro Football Talk post referencing this to be "a holdout." By definition and by reality it is not. Jason Peters was holding out. Aaron Maybin is unsigned. jw Chafie got his certification? Good for him. Always enjoyed watching him play at PSU, and wish he could've made it in the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 i was, though they made me wait an extra 5 minutes. didn't realize i was going to be on for 15. i like Alex. have dealt with him on numerous occasions. jw You did a nice job giving them a little inside perspective on the topics they brought up - great interview. Of course it *was* about the Bills so I'm a little biased. I really enjoy Sirius NFL Radio, there's a lot of football knowledge on the station and even a few Buffalo connections. Kudos you to, I hope to hear you on again in the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 He is not practicing because he is holding out for more money. Therefore, he is a holdout. It's too simplistic to take this stance. As much as I have issues with the front office, negotiations are not a matter of the player rejecting "good" offers. It's a bargaining process that two sides ultimately have to agree upon. There are four players out of 32 first round picks signed. This is a matter of agents waiting to see what the market is set at before agreeing to a deal. Besides, these agents want to build credibility to sign future clients, and thus we see the patient approach which many fans do not comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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