extrahammer Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 The sad thing in this is Crowley seems to have spent his entire life being a leader in racial equality and no matter what, he's now been slandered and will have to live with whatever accusations Gates makes against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 The sad thing in this is Crowley seems to have spent his entire life being a leader in racial equality and no matter what, he's now been slandered and will have to live with whatever accusations Gates makes against him. True, if he had just walked away from the !@#$ he would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 The sad thing in this is Crowley seems to have spent his entire life being a leader in racial equality and no matter what, he's now been slandered and will have to live with whatever accusations Gates makes against him. Unfortunate, but ... Is it any different for Gates? Without this arrest using the power of the State, the things Gates said tired and in anger in his own kitchen/home/porch would have remained private. My bet would be Gates never jumps from PBS to CBS after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Unfortunate, but ... Is it any different for Gates? Without this arrest using the power of the State, the things Gates said tired and in anger in his own kitchen/home/porch would have remained private. My bet would be Gates never jumps from PBS to CBS after this. the big difference is that Gates was the instigator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 I stopped reading some eight pages ago. Have you scholars resolved the question of whether or not the front porch is "inside the house" yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted July 25, 2009 Author Share Posted July 25, 2009 I stopped reading some eight pages ago. Have you scholars resolved the question of whether or not the front porch is "inside the house" yet? You are within the public view, so you can be charged with crimes like exposing yourself, disturbing the peace, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 You are within the public view, so you can be charged with crimes like exposing yourself, disturbing the peace, etc... Is that the final consensus? Or is someone going to argue with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Is that the final consensus? Or is someone going to argue with you? It's all about the porch, the porch, it was his porch, you know the porch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted July 25, 2009 Author Share Posted July 25, 2009 Is that the final consensus? Or is someone going to argue with you? It's clearly established law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 It's clearly established law. My assumption would be that the State would need to prove that a particular porch was public space to prosecute this. But if you have a clearly established law on hand, I'd love to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted July 25, 2009 Author Share Posted July 25, 2009 My assumption would be that the State would need to prove that a particular porch was public space to prosecute this. But if you have a clearly established law on hand, I'd love to see that. Want to test it? Go out on your porch, and start waving your dick at everyone that goes by. We'll see how far your argument gets you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Want to test it? Go out on your porch, and start waving your dick at everyone that goes by. We'll see how far your argument gets you. How about in your own living room in front of the window.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Want to test it? Go out on your porch, and start waving your dick at everyone that goes by. We'll see how far your argument gets you. Or how about this....40 strangers walk laps on your semi-enclosed front porch with the hope they can see you do this. It is public space after all. And don't shout "get lost you malicious nutjobs" beyond your front door because this is unprotected speech and publicly tumultuous behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted July 25, 2009 Author Share Posted July 25, 2009 Or how about this....40 strangers walk laps on your semi-enclosed front porch with the hope they can see you do this. It is public space after all. And don't shout "get lost you malicious nutjobs" beyond your front door because this is unprotected speech and publicly tumultuous behavior. Ah... I get what you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Or how about this....40 strangers walk laps on your semi-enclosed front porch with the hope they can see you do this. It is public space after all. And don't shout "get lost you malicious nutjobs" beyond your front door because this is unprotected speech and publicly tumultuous behavior. Actually if you shoot a robber in your house, you're good to go. But if he get's out the front door and onto the porch you cannot shoot him. Well at least in Virginia and Florida, because VA just changed the laws last year on that to match Florida. It used to be you couldn't shoot a "fleeing" criminal in VA, but now if he/she is still in the confines, blast away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Actually if you shoot a robber in your house, you're good to go. But if he get's out the front door and onto the porch you cannot shoot him. Well at least in Virginia and Florida, because VA just changed the laws last year on that to match Florida. You to be you couldn't shoot a "fleeing" criminal in VA, but now if he/she is still in the confines, blast away. In Texas you can shoot the rat basset if he's in your yard goin thru yer trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 In Texas you can shoot the rat basset if he's in your yard goin thru yer trash. In Texas, that's recreational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 In Texas you can shoot the rat basset if he's in your yard goin thru yer trash. I am moving to texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 I am moving to texas. hahahaha - just don't jump into yer nayber's yard to ree-treeve your kid's baseball or nuthing cause you might get yo'sef a face fulla buckshot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 hahahaha - just don't jump into yer nayber's yard to ree-treeve your kid's baseball or nuthing cause you might get yo'sef a face fulla buckshot... Texas can turn a boy into a fine baserunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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