metzelaars_lives Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I was comparing that team to our team this year and their are alot of similarities. Here's the breakdown.QB's- Even RB- Were better this year Wr's- Very similar 2 WR tandem this year compared to 2004, Even Offense- Potential to be better Defense- Potential to be even, That's unlikely though Coaching- Mularky isn't great but Jaruon isn't either, I'll say Even. I'd certainly take a 9-7 record with our schedule this year Bledsoe of 2004 even with Edwards this year? That's optimistic. McGahee was absolutely insane in 2004 WR's probably better this year Offense potential to be better than 7th in the NFL in scoring?
Bufcomments Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Completely unverified rumor that I have no idea where I heard it from- his kids were taking alot of crap at school. That's just something to say to the press I think but I heard that also. There had to be something with the organization that Coach didnt agree with.
Bad Lieutenant Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 McGahee was absoluetely insane in 2004 He was. I remember how everyone was giddy about how good Willis was going to once he got his top end speed back. Turns out we're still waiting!
Peter Griffin Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Tim Euhus, Ryan Neufeld and Mark Campbell...............Wow, what a group of tight ends!
billsfan89 Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Its funny I was playing NFL 2K5 the other day and it featured the 2004 Bills and I realized how nasty that D was and that the offense was decent too. The only real weakness the Bills had that year on defense was a pass rush next to Schobel the rest of the D was really good. You had Pat and Sam clogging up the Middle as well as Schobel attacking from the outside. London and Spikes were really nasty Line backers. The secondary featured Nate and McGee with Troy Vincent and Lawyer Milloy at safety a really solid bunch. The offense had Moulds and Evans along the outside as well as Wills and Travis Henery running the ball. Bledsoe still had something left in the tank. The O-line was suspect (Even though Jonas Jennings was better than expected) and the Tightend position was nothing to brag about so the offense wasn't a good unit but a middle of the road unit. The 2004 season was the culmination of the TD era. All his big free agent signings, big trades, and draft picks were in place and we got to 9-7 and no playoffs. Than thanks to letting Pat Williams go and Letting Bledsoe walk a year early. The team got old quick and what big name players that were left and still producing wanted out. Yet had things gone a little differently we would have had at least one trip to the playoffs.
Bad Lieutenant Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 You had Pat and Sam clogging up the Middle as well as Schobel attacking from the outside. London and Spikes were really nasty Line backers. The secondary featured Nate and McGee with Troy Vincent and Lawyer Milloy at safety a really solid bunch. And people still claim that no FA's want to play in Buffalo.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Knock the ball down, Nate! No chit. I've never been happier to see a Bill leave Buffalo. That guy was all about show.
Bad Lieutenant Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Knock the ball down, Nate! Didn't London Fletcher take some ridiculous penalty on that final drive as well? I seem to remember him trying to be slick and keeping a Jag pinned to the ground for an extra second or 2 and he got called for delay of game or possibly unsportsmanlike conduct.
The Big Cat Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 2, actually. StL, Sea= W's, Ari, SF= L's. More to the point of the OP, IMO, just 2 wins vs the Division last year would likely have gotten us in playoffs. For sure, if Lindell makes the kick vs. Cleveland. We're close. Wow, you're right. I was even at the SF game, and for whatever reason, in my mind I still have it chalked up as a win. Speaking of the SF and Lindell and just a few more wins... I maintain that if he would have made the two chip shots he missed, we wouldn't have had to go for it (and fail) on fourth down in the redzone and that's 9 more points we SHOULD have had in a game decided by only 7.
Buftex Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Completely unverified rumor that I have no idea where I heard it from- his kids were taking alot of crap at school. Mularkey mentioned it when he was left.
billsfan89 Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 And people still claim that no FA's want to play in Buffalo. Well Pat Williams and Schobel were draft picks so was McGee and Nate Clemens. Troy Vincent was a guy few teams wanted because of his age. True we were able to grab guys like Milloy, Sam Adams, London Fletcher and Spikes all of whom were fairly desired guys when they entered free agency. Players will come to Buffalo you will just have to over pay them a little until we become a contender again. Dockery was a sought after free agent and he came here but he came for the money and it didn't work out so well. Drafting will always be so important to the Bills success but you have to supplement a team with a few free agent grabs. Even if you are only adding a piece or two you still have to spend money to keep some of the players you draft/develop. The big issue with the Bills to me is that they are a 7-9 team who will get better in two or three areas with the draft, trades, developing players, and mid level free agents but than you loose 2-3 players of your own and than it amounts to no progress. This year we took a chance on a guy like TO and we had one of the guys we lost Greer replacement waiting in the wings McKelvin. So I hope despite DJ's best efforts we improve and make the playoffs.
sweatpantsjoe Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Didn't London Fletcher take some ridiculous penalty on that final drive as well? I seem to remember him trying to be slick and keeping a Jag pinned to the ground for an extra second or 2 and he got called for delay of game or possibly unsportsmanlike conduct. Yes he did.......just like he did pretty much every other game of his career in Buffalo.
Buftex Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 And people still claim that no FA's want to play in Buffalo. As much as we knock Tom Donohoe around here, the franchise had a bit more, uh, "juice" when he was calling the shots... he had a way of making things happening off the field...he wasn't complacent.
Louie Armstrong Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 As much as we knock Tom Donohoe around here, the franchise had a bit more, uh, "juice" when he was calling the shots... he had a way of making things happening off the field...he wasn't complacent. Is that you, Chris Mortensen???
Buftex Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 Is that you, Chris Mortensen??? No... just making the observation, when TD was here, the Bills franchise was thought of much more highly, and better run, than it was after he was fired. If TD targeted a FA, that FA was a Buffalo Bill. FA's weren't using Buffalo to up their offers elsewhere, like they did to the "Bungles" for years... true, the post-TD Bills have picked up Stroud (a trade) and Terrell Owens, but, this current FO normally seems afraid to dream too big...they target guys that few other teams want, and then still manage to figure out a way to miss out on them...
SectionC3 Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 Completely unverified rumor that I have no idea where I heard it from- his kids were taking alot of crap at school. I heard the same thing - second hand, so I don't know the source, but the second hand info is usually right on the mark.
Buftex Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 I heard the same thing - second hand, so I don't know the source, but the second hand info is usually right on the mark. The source was Mularkey himself, he said it...
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