ans4e64 Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 Bruce. More sacks, and in a 3-4 defense at DE. Case closed.
nucci Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 whos better.. debate This is a Bills board. What do you think people are going to say?
ans4e64 Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 Reggie was probably the better all around player, though.
nucci Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 Reggie was probably the better all around player, though. Why? Bruce was very good against the run and unequaled as a pass rusher.
ans4e64 Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 Why? Bruce was very good against the run and unequaled as a pass rusher. Attitude, team player, all that crap. And Bruce wasn't as good against the run as you say. He could chase a play down from behind, but couldn't hold at the point of attack. That's why teams just ran right at him.
nucci Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 Attitude, team player, all that crap. And Bruce wasn't as good against the run as you say. He could chase a play down from behind, but couldn't hold at the point of attack. That's why teams just ran right at him. Attitude? C'mon. I'll take talent and production over attitude. Your point about the run is correct regarding his 1st couple years in the league. Once he got in shape and studied film, he was very tough against the run. Watch some old tapes. (Guess it's just you and I.)
jax bill backer Posted July 20, 2009 Author Posted July 20, 2009 This is a Bills board. What do you think people are going to say? well im expecting people to be honest
Buffal0 Bill5 Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 Bruce could drink Reggie under the table any day of the week.
BuffaloBlood Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 Bruce is the best DE ever but he isnt the best pass rusher ever..... that distinction belongs to LT. Just cause Bruce had the most sacks does not make him the best ever. Emmit has the most yards ever but I think we can all agree that hes not the best RB ever.
DIE HARD 1967 Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 I will take this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gte5RPziaIU Reggie was Pretty good to..... Its to bad the Bills didn't have both.....Reggie would have provided some solid depth.....
DC Tom Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 whos better.. debate Bruce. White had a better supporting cast for most of his career. Bruce got his numbers with a lot less help.
Corp000085 Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 Bruce. Reggie was very talented, and nothing should be taken away from his career. Same goes with LT. These two guys revolutionized the defensive line/rushing linebacker position. However, Bruce was just better. He not only forced teams to gameplan around him, he scared the living crap out of coaches and offensive players. He made his teammates better... When you take on two guys, you allow for the OLB behind you to make a play. When you BEAT those two guys blocking you almost every down, and you have the help from the outside, you're just ridiculous and dominant. Everyone loves to start an argument, play the devil's advocate, etc. but Bruce Smith was the best defensive player in the history of the NFL, period. David Deacon Jones be damned... LT's crazy eyes be damned. Reggie's dominance and heart [no pun intended] be damned... Great players, changed the game, hall of famers, etc... But they can all sit down BEHIND Bruce Smith when forming the "best ever" line. It's about time that we make a real argument here... Was Bruce Smith the best PLAYER ever in the NFL? There's a real argument, as opposed to this reggie vs. bruce one.
DC Tom Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 I will take this guyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gte5RPziaIU It's really not a Bruce Smith highlight video without the sack where Jeff George drops back, looks to his left, sees Bruce in his face, and clearly mouths "Oh, sh--!" just before he's nailed. And it's sad to think that at least a third of those sacks in that video would be roughing penalties today.
The Dean Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 It's really not a Bruce Smith highlight video without the sack where Jeff George drops back, looks to his left, sees Bruce in his face, and clearly mouths "Oh, sh--!" just before he's nailed. And it's sad to think that at least a third of those sacks in that video would be roughing penalties today. Indeed. Particularly when Bruce often eased up (a little) on QBs he could really pound, unlike many other defensive linemen during that period.
The Dean Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 well im expecting people to be honest So, you expect people to do the opposite of what you choose to do. Right?
VOR Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 There is no comparison between Bruce playing RDE (going against a team's best O-lineman in the LT) in a 3-4, with only 2 other guys on the line to occupy the opposing OL (not to mention playing next to the woefully undersized Jeff Wright), versus Reggie White playing LDE (going against the RT) in a 4-3, with 3 other guys occupying the opponents' O-line, and some great players on those DL's no less. Imagine Bruce with Ted Washington at NT all those years, or Washington/Adams and Williams at the DT spots.
angrygnome Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 And it's sad to think that at least a third of those sacks in that video would be roughing penalties today. I was thinking the same thing. It is sad. That Boomer Esiason sack probably would have gotten him fined as well in today's NFL.
DIE HARD 1967 Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 well im expecting people to be honest Ok, you want honesty, two completely different style Defensive Ends Reggie was stronger and Bruce was faster, If you want a complete Defensive end that can run down running backs then it has to be BRUCE Both are number one and two, Reggie White and Bruce Smith, there should be no argument about that. I watched them both their entire carreer, and if they were both in the 2010 draft, I take BRUCE...period
GOBILLS78 Posted July 20, 2009 Posted July 20, 2009 Bruce. White had a better supporting cast for most of his career. Bruce got his numbers with a lot less help. Not sure if I'd use "a lot" there.
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