Jim in Anchorage Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I'm petrified of Iran. Al Qaeda in Afghanistan where not getting hard hits on the radar either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Drane Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Yes, I'm sure the Iranians (Shiite muslims) would give the bomb to Al Qaeda (fanatical Sunnis responsible for killing thousands of Shiites in Iraq) You're right.....that's why the US will eventually be in a full-fledged war in Pakistan. It's a lot easier to pick up a spare nuke or two in your own backyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Al Qaeda in Afghanistan where not getting hard hits on the radar either. Both of which are products of a continuing theme - the U.S. foreign policy that basically has us acting like Gladys Kravitz with the A-Bomb. Reaping what we sow, all around the globe. If "Blowback" isn't a big part of every official point paper in U.S. diplomacy, someone ain't doing their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Both of which are products of a continuing theme - the U.S. foreign policy that basically has us acting like Gladys Kravitz with the A-Bomb. Reaping what we sow, all around the globe. If "Blowback" isn't a big part of every official point paper in U.S. diplomacy, someone ain't doing their job. Clarify. What did we sow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Clarify. What did we sow? Are you kidding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Are you kidding? No. Give examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Are you kidding? I think it's a misguided attempt to prove you're anti-American and support terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 No. Give examples. How about the ascension of the current Iranian regime? How exactly did they end up in power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I think it's a misguided attempt to prove you're anti-American and support terrorism. Oh, I'm sure. Heaven forbid anyone who claims to be "conservative" actually looks at things from that viewpoint instead of simply regurgitating the party line that got us to this point in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 How about the ascension of the current Iranian regime? How exactly did they end up in power? Because their Muslim terrorists who hate us for our freedoms. It's not our fault...unless you're suggesting we should give up our freedoms to make them happy, you commie pinko bastard Islamofascist baby killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Oh, I'm sure. Heaven forbid anyone who claims to be "conservative" actually looks at things from that viewpoint instead of simply regurgitating the party line that got us to this point in the first place. Much easier to believe they hate us for our "freedom" Still laughing at Gladys Kravitz. Perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 How about the ascension of the current Iranian regime? How exactly did they end up in power? Oh the Shah thing. Apparently we didn't"prop" him up very well. Certainly if America hadn't interfered in Iran 50 years ago today they would be a free thinking,Democratic society and the Mullahs would be hiding in the shadows. Believe what you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Oh the Shah thing. Apparently we didn't"prop" him up very well. Certainly if America hadn't interfered in Iran 50 years ago today they would be a free thinking,Democratic society and the Mullahs would be hiding in the shadows. Believe what you wish. It actually goes back to before the Shah but thanks for your permission. I was totally waiting for that. Now you have my permission to go back and be afraid of people who live in caves and hate your freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 It actually goes back to before the Shah but thanks for your permission. I was totally waiting for that. Now you have my permission to go back and be afraid of people who live in caves and hate your freedom. Yeah, that stuckincincy...scary dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 It actually goes back to before the Shah but thanks for your permission. I was totally waiting for that. Now you have my permission to go back and be afraid of people who live in caves and hate your freedom. Will you quit talking in metaphors and riddles and tell me just what the hell you are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Will you quit talking in metaphors and riddles and tell me just what the hell you are talking about? What exactly isn't clear? Our foreign policy (especially in the Middle East) has been crap for a very long time. If you don't know why, that's your friggin' problem. I'm not a history teacher. Because our foreign policy has been crap, there have been craptastic things that have happened to us as a direct result. Hence the term "Blow Back". This stuff is very easy to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 What exactly isn't clear? Our foreign policy (especially in the Middle East) has been crap for a very long time. If you don't know why, that's your friggin' problem. I'm not a history teacher. Because our foreign policy has been crap, there have been craptastic things that have happened to us as a direct result. Hence the term "Blow Back". This stuff is very easy to understand. God I can imagine the vitriol you think should be directed at England[they did colonize the middle east,after all-or is that yet another history lesson I misunderstood?] The be all and end all of middle east thinking is Israel[created by the UN] If we didn't support them,the middle east would care less about the US except for the $60 a barrel we pay for their oil[which we told them they have,and showed them how to extract]. Yeah,the US deserves"blow back" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 God I can imagine the vitriol you think should be directed at England[they did colonize the middle east,after all-or is that yet another history lesson I misunderstood?] The be all and end all of middle east thinking is Israel[created by the UN] If we didn't support them,the middle east would care less about the US except for the $60 a barrel we pay for their oil[which we told them they have,and showed them how to extract]. Yeah,the US deserves"blow back" Yeah, it's just as simple as "because the U.S. supports Israel". There's little reason to have a discussion when it's apparently so easy for you to ignore history or how rank and file people view things from their little part of the world, especially given the way their media/educational systems work. In this instance you seem to be unable to look at things from the outside despite a plethora of sources that the average Middle Easterner doesn't enjoy. You regurgitate the same tired crap as gospel but pretend you're somehow different and you have access to things they can't even dream of. And it has nothing to do with "vitriol I think should be directed" at anyone. I simply understand that people who are oppressed or perceive themselves to be oppressed will on occasion react strongly against SOMEONE. Our ancestors did it and ended up founding this nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Yeah, it's just as simple as "because the U.S. supports Israel". There's little reason to have a discussion when it's apparently so easy for you to ignore history or how rank and file people view things from their little part of the world, especially given the way their media/educational systems work. In this instance you seem to be unable to look at things from the outside despite a plethora of sources that the average Middle Easterner doesn't enjoy. You regurgitate the same tired crap as gospel but pretend you're somehow different and you have access to things they can't even dream of. And it has nothing to do with "vitriol I think should be directed" at anyone. I simply understand that people who are oppressed or perceive themselves to be oppressed will on occasion react strongly against SOMEONE. Our ancestors did it and ended up founding this nation. Poor analogy. The colonists where under direct rule of the British crown,and of course that was the focus of the revolution.Why do you think the average Saudi or Egyptian hates us? Because we are running their country? You seem to have access to historical information I don't. Please enlighten me as how the US is responsible for the oppressive goverments in the middle east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Poor analogy. Except it isn't. The world is simply a more complicated than it was back then and just because America doesn't directly rule anyone doesn't mean we don't exert significant influence all over the globe. If you think otherwise you're either a fool or are lying to yourself. You seem to have access to historical information I don't. Please enlighten me as how the US is responsible for the oppressive goverments in the middle east. Do your own research. Heaven forbid anyone go outside their own comfort zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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