Billistic Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 cause he's not constantly injured? No. Because Tony was All World, the prototypical LT: Speed, strength, football smarts...you name it. Langston may be adequate, with some help. Boselli had one injury. It ended his career.
rstencel Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Look at who he played against when he was at LT last year at the start of the season. He played the whole game at Seattle where he faced Lawrence Jackson, who had two sacks all year. He played a bit here and a bit there against the next team or two. Jaguars - Reggie Hayward, 4.5 sacks all year long, though he did some platooning with Quentin Groves who had 2.5. Neither guy is a big speed guy, though Groves is a bit faster. Raiders - Jay Richardson, 3 sacks. By the time we played the Rams, Peters was playing the whole game at LT, though he sure wasn't back to anywhere close to his old self yet. People don't worry about whether Walker can handle power rushers. He can. They wonder whether he can handle speed rushers. Which he DID NOT DO last year when he played LT. And this year we face a lot of them, including some very very good ones. He also had no report with the LG, and that guard was let go at end of year for his play, and the whole interior of line collapsed consistantly to the inside rush. With a good working relationship with the person he plays with, I think his ability to slide out quickly will improve. Not saying he will be an all pro, but if he can get a yard or 2 farther on his sets, and the interior of line doesnt allow as much of a push up the middle, allot of those outside rushes will go around the QB instead of through him.
Billistic Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 He also had no report with the LG, and that guard was let go at end of year for his play through him. Dockery was let go instead of traded for some talent, and then immediately picked up to start for the Redskins. He'll probably have a fine year for them in 2009, just like London Fletcher has been having since the Bills dumped him.
Alphadawg7 Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Im not sure if I can count on Langston Walker this year on the left side. Looks like a big weakness to me. Another question is... why can't this guy lose any weight? I will tell you what I trust... I trust this board to start at minimum one Langston Walker at LT thread every single day...
VOR Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Dockery was let go instead of traded for some talent...
NyQuil Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 I trust him to be thinking about the play as opposed to someone who recently said they were sometimes concentrating on their contract.
spartacus Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 Dockery was let go instead of traded for some talent, and then immediately picked up to start for the Redskins. He'll probably have a fine year for them in 2009, just like London Fletcher has been having since the Bills dumped him. The Redskins paid him $26 mil the very next day after he got cut by the Bills. maybe with a real OL coach Dockery will return to the high production level which got him his $50 million deal from the Bills just 2 years ago.
VOR Posted July 14, 2009 Posted July 14, 2009 The Redskins paid him $26 mil the very next day after he got cut by the Bills. maybe with a real OL coach Dockery will return to the high production level which got him his $50 million deal from the Bills just 2 years ago. Or...maybe he won't.
Trader Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 As long we throw off the defense with 4 wide packages and have a good running game Walker will do just fine I see him letting about 4-7 sacks Agreed! the no huddle and the 3 step drop will help as well. He will have help on the longer patterns. He will be an upgrade in terms of Pass protection from what Peters did last year (who would not be?). Peters may be a better run blocker than Walker but they are at least even as pass blockers and I give Walker the nod based on smarts. Walker is the better player from the shoulder pads up.
The Dean Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 No, I don't trust him. I've always thought he's been up to no good and I want him out of the neighborhood. He's a nefarious sort, you can just feel it.
Turn Down For Watkins Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 With Bell and Hennesse pushing him, he damn well better perform, or he'll find himself sitting next to Chris Ellis. And Chambers was solid at the Tackle position last year too
True Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 I dont know if I trust Walker, the thing that worries me would be to ask him... I'm not sure he is confident in the position himself. he seems very worried, kind of like the kid who was picked to cook fries at McDs and only ever mopped floors. B.
Thurman#1 Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 I trust him to be thinking about the play as opposed to someone who recently said they were sometimes concentrating on their contract. You misquoted him actually. He said sometimes he thought about his contract after a play. Not during. Gosh, how shocking. So before the next play was called and he knew what to do, he may have thought about his contract. Wow. I know I never think about anything at work but my work, not even for an instant. I'm sure you're the same, NyQuil. It's the wrong question. Of course I trust Langston Walker. I trust him to be Langston Walker, with Langston's strengths and Langston's weaknesses, which I don't believe are a good fit at LT. But yeah, I trust him.
Thurman#1 Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 Agreed! the no huddle and the 3 step drop will help as well. He will have help on the longer patterns. He will be an upgrade in terms of Pass protection from what Peters did last year (who would not be?). Peters may be a better run blocker than Walker but they are at least even as pass blockers and I give Walker the nod based on smarts. Walker is the better player from the shoulder pads up. Peters is not a better pass blocker than Walker? Right. Got it. Revisionist history at its best.
Mickey Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 Langston is not exactly a mystery. He has been around long enough for us to know what we have: a good but not great right tackle who will be in over his head on the left side which will require us to change a lot of what we do to cover up that weakness. I don't expect him to embarass himself out there but I don't expect many highlights either. He is exactly the type of LT you would expect a 7-9 team to have.
djcalvin79 Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 The Redskins paid him $26 mil the very next day after he got cut by the Bills. maybe with a real OL coach Dockery will return to the high production level which got him his $50 million deal from the Bills just 2 years ago. right. and the 'Skins have a long history of correctly identifying talent and making shrewd, smart cash decisions. this is going to be a long weekend, i can feel it already.
Trader Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 Peters is not a better pass blocker than Walker? Right. Got it. Revisionist history at its best. 11.5 sacks is somewhere between awful and pedestrian.
VOR Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 11.5 sacks is somewhere between awful and pedestrian. Sounds like an add for a perfume. "Somewhere between awful and pedestrian lies...Regression. By Jason Peters."
The Dean Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 Sounds like an add for a perfume. "Somewhere between awful and pedestrian lies...Regression. By Jason Peters." I give that joke a 3.5
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