SKRAAPY Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 Without a doubt Reich..and hopefully fitzpatrick is our next great backup
Buftex Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 The late, not so great, Matt Kofler will always have a special place in my Bills heart. He barely played, but I remember, having pneumonia, but forcing myself to go to a Bills/Raiders game in 1984 (IIRC). The Bills, who were very bad at the time, were gettting the crap kicked out of them. IIRC, they were down, something like 28-7, when Joe Ferguson got injured. Kofler came in, and led a frantic combeback, that came up just short. I think they lost like 31-28...it was a very exciting game though... Otherwise, have to go with the obvious choices: David Hum, Matt Robinson and Dan Manucci...
ChasBB Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 What about Hamden? I like this guy. He's got good height, strong arm, accurate, team-first type of guy, totally supports Edwards much as Reich supported Kelly and only wants to see the team win games whether he is playing or not. True, we need to see more of what he can really do on the field when it counts, but all indications are that the guy can play.
Greybeard Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 I do remember Dennis Shaw having a great rookie season in what....1970 or 71?? What ever happened to him? When Lou Saban came back in '72, Shaw must have been his starting QB. Next thing you know Saban drafted Fergy in '73 and Joe was starting from game one that season. Does anyone know if Shaw went on to play for any other teams during the 70's?? IMO, Dennis Shaw's stats at the time were mainly the result of Marlin Briscoe. Shaw threw the pass up for grabs and Briscoe somehow came down with it. Briscoe was a real joy to watch. And remember, he wasn't that tall. Among my friends at the time, Shaw going back to pass was referred to as "here comes another duck". He rarely through a tight spiral.
Honey Roy 77 Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 Rob Johnson. I liked him just fine as long as he stayed on the bench. Too bad he didn't stay there. At first I thought you were serious. I'll go with Reich. You guys can pick up the DVD of "The Comeback" at the Hall of Fame Store. Commercial free.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 Funny that Dennis Shaw and the late Matt Kofler were both 2nd round picks from San Diego State. They both had really week arms and put the ball up for grabs continuously. I was also at that Raiders game which was mentioned above in which Kofler led a frantic comeback. It was like God was smiling on him that day. Several of his passes were of the "wing it and pray" variety. It just so happened that on that day, our guys caught the balls and the Raiders didn't. In answer to the question: The Chroise One of my pet Bills backup QBs is Bill Munson who played his last two NFL seasons with the Bills backing up Joe Ferguson. He played 16 seasons in the league and when he would come in for Fergy you could see what a savvy and resourceful pro he was. The arm was gone but he could still move the team. Just a real professional, like a poor man's Earl Morrall, which is a real complement.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 I'll add also that Alex Van Pelt was not a great player or anything, clearly he only had the ability to be a backup. But he's an example of a guy who got the absolute most out of his ability.
Sisyphean Bills Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 I'll add also that Alex Van Pelt was not a great player or anything, clearly he only had the ability to be a backup. But he's an example of a guy who got the absolute most out of his ability. Yet, statistically-speaking he is among the worst Bills starting QBs when he was on the football field. [edit]
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 I'll add also that Alex Van Pelt was not a great player or anything, clearly he only had the ability to be a backup. But he's an example of a guy who got the absolute most out of his ability. Yet, statistically-speaking he is among the worst Bills starting QBs. Therefore your point is...
Sisyphean Bills Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 Therefore your point is... What's your point? That his short, chubby body "maxed out its ability" with a backward ball cap on and holding a clipboard? Since people usually come here to discuss football play, as in on the field, saying he was great at not playing is a nice little tap dance.
The Dean Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 What's your point? That he his short, chubby body "maxed out its ability" with a backward ball cap on and holding a clipboard? Since people usually come here to discuss football play, as in on the field, saying he was great at not playing is a nice little tap dance. Wasn't the topic "your favorite Bills backup QB"? Favorite, not best Backup, not starting Stats are not usually a good way to judge a backup QB.
Sisyphean Bills Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 Wasn't the topic "your favorite Bills backup QB"? Favorite, not best Backup, not starting Stats are not usually a good way to judge a backup QB. He's the one that brought up "maximized his ability". That is what I was commenting on. In fact, I don't even disagree that Van Pelt may have indeed "maximized his ability". My comment was to the effect that his "maximization of ability" elevated him all the way to a damn poor QB, when he did play. I don't care if someone liked Van Pelt as a backup QB. I think he is a nice guy, myself. I find trying to play a semantics shell game to pretend that "maximized ability" really had no connection to his on field play to be confusing at best.
Kettle Creek Football Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 frank reich and van pelt for one reason or another. Always liked him a lot. Not sure why he is qb coach though. Hey, 'NUMARK' - NICE LOGO! I'd have to say Reich, hands-down. BILLY JOE HOBERT was my LEAST favourite!!!!!!!!!
BhamBillsFan Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 Dan DarraughGary Marangi Ed Rutkowski Ditto on Marangi, remember when he came into the Miami game and led the Bills to victory, back in the 70's.
Tcali Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 Ditto on Marangi, remember when he came into the Miami game and led the Bills to victory, back in the 70's. no,cant recall that..lol
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