grammer_police Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Anyone have the list? E. Moulds should easily be on the list. Other Bills candidates: T. McGee, Lindell, Marv as GM
R. Rich Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Moulds is a pretty good mention. The guy played well despite a seemingly non-ending stream of changing QBs and offensive coordinators, ending up w/ over 600 catches and 9,000 yards in his career as a Bill. W/ all of that chaos and to produce @ the rate he did was very impressive.
KD in CA Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Other Bills candidates: T. McGee, Lindell, Marv as GM Based on the impressive string of 7-9 seasons?
DDD Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Based on the impressive string of 7-9 seasons? Signing Larry Tripplett, Robert Royal, Matt Bowens, and Touton Reyes Passing on Ngata for Whitner only to trade back into the 1st round and draft McCargo Re-signing Kelsay to that ridiculous contact Re-doing Schoebel's deal Marvin Fowler In Marv we trust.
grammer_police Posted June 27, 2009 Author Posted June 27, 2009 Signing Larry Tripplett, Robert Royal, Matt Bowens, and Touton Reyes Passing on Ngata for Whitner only to trade back into the 1st round and draft McCargo Re-signing Kelsay to that ridiculous contact Re-doing Schoebel's deal Marvin Fowler In Marv we trust. Tripplett looked like a good signing at the time. Royal was a good blocker, and actually made a play every now and then. Matt Bowens unfortunetely had injury problems-not Marv's fault. Reyes was just depth. Kelsay is the kind of leader that we have too little of. Also superb against the run. Schobel is the best we have on the D-line. MELVIN fowler was.. ok yeah, he sucks. We are a team right now on the verge of the playoffs because of Marv.
Biggwigg Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Tripplett looked like a good signing at the time.Royal was a good blocker, and actually made a play every now and then. Matt Bowens unfortunetely had injury problems-not Marv's fault. Reyes was just depth. Kelsay is the kind of leader that we have too little of. Also superb against the run. Schobel is the best we have on the D-line. MELVIN fowler was.. ok yeah, he sucks. We are a team right now on the verge of the playoffs because of Marv. Marv is the main reason we are not in the playoffs. Indy let Tripplet go for a reason. Kelsay can not rush the passer to save his life and is highly overpaid. I like Whitter because he is a team player and gives a lot of effort, but he should have never been taken at #8. Fowler isn't good enough to be a backup. Peerless Price??? Oh I forgot to mention Jauron and Dockery, two great additions. Great coach horrible GM.
GOBILLS78 Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Tripplett looked like a good signing at the time.Royal was a good blocker, and actually made a play every now and then. Matt Bowens unfortunetely had injury problems-not Marv's fault. Reyes was just depth. Kelsay is the kind of leader that we have too little of. Also superb against the run. Schobel is the best we have on the D-line. MELVIN fowler was.. ok yeah, he sucks. We are a team right now on the verge of the playoffs because of Marv. We are really no better than we were before he took the helm. No worse, either.
cantstopbeastmode Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Anyone have the list? E. Moulds should easily be on the list. Other Bills candidates: T. McGee, Lindell, Marv as GM McGee is more overrated than underrated. If he wasn't a return specialist, we would view him as the 4th rd mediocre starter that he is. Instead, he made the pro bowl the one year and has all the hype in the world. Moulds is definitely underrated, though.
Big Turk Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 Anyone have the list? E. Moulds should easily be on the list. Other Bills candidates: T. McGee, Lindell, Marv as GM Moulds was very overrated as a player other than 3 years(1998-2000). Other than that his numbers were that of a good receiver, who got lots of passes thrown to him and didn't catch nearly the percentage he should of.
Fingon Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 McGee is more overrated than underrated. If he wasn't a return specialist, we would view him as the 4th rd mediocre starter that he is. Instead, he made the pro bowl the one year and has all the hype in the world. Moulds is definitely underrated, though. Actually, McGee is a fantastic corner. He has been by far our best since Nate left, and he will get a big contract at the end of this season.
DIE HARD 1967 Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 Kevin Everrett Sam Adams London Fletcher Brian Moorman Sam Morris Drew Bledsoe Erick Moulds Takeo Spikes
evilbuffalobob Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 This has turned into a hate Marv thread so FU's. Bl ow me you short-sighted Spinkter Hole s. The Bills are still in Buffalo (aren't they)... thanks to Marv, thanks to Drew, and most importantly thanks to Doug. Go teabag Dan Snyder you non-believers.
evilbuffalobob Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 Anyway, my answer: Kurt Schulz Silently excellent and a nice guy.
Offside Number 76 Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 Moulds is a pretty good mention. The guy played well despite a seemingly non-ending stream of changing QBs and offensive coordinators, ending up w/ over 600 catches and 9,000 yards in his career as a Bill. W/ all of that chaos and to produce @ the rate he did was very impressive. No, he isn't a "pretty good mention" for being underrated. He is, and was, correctly rated. He's not overrated, and he's not underrated. Three Pro Bowls was about right for him; he's not a Hall of Fame guy, and he was no middling role-player, either. He was a very good wide receiver whose time is up. But he never was underrated. The ESPN writer who mentioned him as "overrated" was wrong, but so is this.
Schobel94 Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 I think steve tasker could also be considered underrated. if you start to talk about who is a great special teams player he will rarely come up outside of this board and is not even mentioned in regular NFL conversations. in my mind he was the best special teams player ever(including hester) and i feel that he is overlooked to often because he brought so much to the 90's team in terms of intensity and setting the tempo of the game(physically). there were many times(the game vs the raiders comes to mind where he returned it to the 1) that he has jump-started the bills when they may have had a few lackluster drives. plus how many special teams players are the mvp of the pro-bowl?
lacoy38 Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 Anyone have the list? E. Moulds should easily be on the list. Other Bills candidates: T. McGee, Lindell, Marv as GM love terrence mcgee!!!
lacoy38 Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 Anyone have the list? E. Moulds should easily be on the list. Other Bills candidates: T. McGee, Lindell, Marv as GM josh reed!!
ganesh Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 [/b] We are really no better than we were before he took the helm. No worse, either. I beg to defer...We do have some talent on this team compared to what Marv inherited...... Marshawn, McKelvin, Poz, Stroud,
billsfreak Posted June 28, 2009 Posted June 28, 2009 Kevin Everrett Sam Adams London Fletcher Brian Moorman Sam Morris Drew Bledsoe Erick Moulds Takeo Spikes This isn't a list of underrated players is it? Everett played what 30-40 downs in his whole career before he got injured? Spikes went to what 3 Pro Bowls with the Bills, thats not underrated. Moorman has been All Pro and Pro Bowl-not underrated. Bledsoe's best years, and outside of his first year on the Bills, his only really good years were in the 1990's. Sam Morris is a career backup. Sam Adams went to 4 or 5 Pro Bowls. I would agree with Moulds and London Fletcher without a doubt. I would add Pat Williams to the list, he has been great for most of the decade and never really got recognition until he got to Minnesota. A team that has acheived as little as the Bills have this decade won't have too many underrated players anyway, otherwise the team would have done better than it has. They do have a few that were way overrated though, such as Clements, McGee, Winfield, Jason Peters, Schobel.
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