You gotta love the flutie magic

[Steely Dan]

Since it is unavailable anywhere on the net I've copied and pasted it;

 

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By BUCKY GLEASON

10/25/01

 

 

So, you're a Doug Flutie fan? It's OK. You're hardly alone in this town.

In fact, it has come to my attention that some of you will be rooting for

the San Diego Chargers this weekend solely because the cuddly little

fellow now wears a different shade of blue. Hey, it's your choice.

 

 

But before you change your allegiance for a week, you might want to know a

few things about the Flutester. For one, he's a phony. He had half of

Western New York, most of Canada and parts of New England snowed into

thinking he was such a great guy when the Bills for years were quietly

laughing while watching his little act.

 

 

Such transparent personalities aren't usually embraced in this town, but

this was a charade for the ages. Flutie had two performances working - the

one he played for the public and the off-Broadway persona reserved for

behind closed doors. We're talking two totally different dudes. You like

the one you see. You wouldn't like the one they know.

 

 

See, Flutie was a selfish, egotistical, conniving, manipulative, shrewd

individualist who did almost anything to make sure he came out looking

better than his former teammate, Rob Johnson, in their battle to run the

offense.

 

 

Did I forget insecure? Yep, Flutie worried that he would never get his

opportunity to quiet lifelong skeptics, so he worked behind the scenes

against Johnson. The word "backstabber" has been tossed around frequently

in Bills' circles to describe Flutie since he left town. Predictably, he

was a model for diplomacy when speaking to the media Wednesday.

 

 

When Johnson was injured he did everything asked to help Flutie get ready

for the next opponent, but it didn't take long for him to realize the

favor wouldn't be returned. How sophomoric did Flutie become? Well, even

when Johnson played well and the Bills won, Flutie told his teammates he

would have done a much better job, that he should have been the

quarterback, that he would have avoided more sacks, that the Bills would

have won by more had he been given the reins. And once his tiresome tirade

was over, he would ask his listeners, "Don't you think?"

 

 

What you don't know is that Johnson approached Flutie several times last

year, long before the story in Sports Illustrated and the interview with

Jim Rome outlined their genuine disdain for each other, and asked him why

he was mouthing off behind his back. Johnson was attempting to handle

things privately, like a professional. Flutie, of course, denied

everything, like an amateur. It didn't matter. Johnson knew the score

because his teammates kept telling him.

 

 

Johnson's dilemma wasn't about quarterbacking but battery. He debated

whether to simply punch out Flutie or keep quiet. Oh, he wanted Flutie in

a small room with the lights off for a woodshed special, but he

reconsidered because he thought it would have been disruptive - to the

Bills. Really, I'm not making this up.

 

 

Together, they stewed in silence. And I mean silence.

 

 

Last year, when the Bills held their quarterback meetings in preparation

for the next opponent, there usually were two people talking and neither

was named Doug or Rob. Instead, bench warmer Alex Van Pelt reviewed the

game plan with offensive coordinator Joe Pendry. Johnson threw in his two

cents every so often. Flutie threw in three cents just to be sure. But

they said nothing to each other.

 

 

What you don't know is that Flutie loved signing autographs in public but

privately complained about the exercise. He was a go-to guy in training

camp because he understood the importance of a good first impression. Give

him credit, he's an engaging man the first few times you meet him.

Grandmas and kids love the guy. People adore the underdog, and he plays

the role better than anyone in recent memory. And to him, all those people

lining up weren't Bills fans as much as they were Flutie fans. Behind the

scenes, say, on a Tuesday with nobody around, Flutie whined about such

inconveniences. After awhile, the Bills dreaded asking him to sign. He'll

deny it to the day he's dead, but it's the truth.

 

 

What you don't know is that Johnson volunteered his services to the Bills'

marketing staff. In fact, he has ordered the community relations people to

keep quiet about his charities, such as the time he spends in Children's

Hospital and his work with Habitat for Humanity, among others. He wanted

his off-field work reserved for his private life, away from the cameras

and commercials. He wanted to be known in these parts as a quarterback,

not a humanitarian.

 

 

Flutie was known as a winner, Johnson a fragile outcast. So why has Flutie

played for eight professional teams since he threw the Hail Mary? Because

Flutie's charm runs only so long before people discover the facade. Teams

aren't far behind.

 

 

Anyway, when it's all added up, the Bills' defense did more for the team's

success than anything Flutie accomplished. He has a better team wrapped

around him now, too. We'll see what happens when the Chargers play

Oakland, Denver and Seattle the second time around.

 

 

You might want to start supporting Johnson because he's not going anywhere

for a while. Since the first preseason game, he has played a grand total

of three plays behind the starting offensive line. Granted, he's no Steve

Young, but he's improving. Fans are giving him less time for success than

he's had in the pocket.

 

 

And that brings us to Bills President and General Manager Tom Donahoe, who

really didn't have a difficult decision about whether he would retain

Flutie or Johnson. Flutie had three offseason meetings with Donahoe and

the coaching staff before the Bills made their choice. Flutie, after

complaining about the process to others, made sure to say their West Coast

offense had better fit his style because he wasn't changing. Flutie told

them straight out, "I'm going to play my way." They were floored.

 

 

Johnson, on the other hand, asked how he could help the team. West Coast?

East Coast? They could have said Gulf Coast, and he would have agreed if

it meant helping the Bills win. Johnson, supposedly a California beach

bum, even asked his bosses whether they wanted him to stay in Western New

York through the winter so he could work on the new attack. They were

floored.

 

 

And when the interviews were completed, the Bills needed about 11 seconds

to realize it wasn't a Flutie-Johnson issue at all. It was Johnson or

someone else.

 

 

See, what Flutie never understood was that public perception didn't always

equate to absolute truth. He apparently didn't realize the Bills would be

talking to everyone from the backup center to the maintenance man at The

Ralph. He didn't realize how many people he insulted when he was here.

It's hardly surprising.

 

 

Doug Flutie was always about one thing. Doug Flutie.

 

 

And you know this, because..... ?

 

See above article.

 

 

Not exactly - I said that apparently most of the NFL front office-types were apparently completely 'in the dark' regarding the greatness that was so obvious to a handful of TSW posters.

 

 

"His inability to stay with any team for more than a cup or two of coffee" seems a bit hyperbolic, and one could argue that his playing in 3 professional football leagues over a 21-year career accounts for that.

 

1985 New Jersey Generals

1986 Chicago Bears

1987 Chicago Bears

1987 New England Patriots

1988 New England Patriots

1989 New England Patriots

1990 British Columbia Lions

1991 British Columbia Lions

1992 Calgary Stampeders

1993 Calgary Stampeders

1994 Calgary Stampeders

1995 Calgary Stampeders

1996 Toronto Argonauts

1997 Toronto Argonauts

1998 Buffalo Bills

1999 Buffalo Bills

2000 Buffalo Bills

2001 San Diego Chargers

2002 San Diego Chargers

2003 San Diego Chargers

2004 San Diego Chargers

2005 New England Patriots

 

* Pro Bowl selection (1998)

* 1984 Heisman Trophy

* 1984 Walter Camp Award

* 1984 Davey O'Brien Award

* 1984 Maxwell Award

* 1984 UPI Player of the Year

* 1985 Pee wee league MVP runner up.

* 1986 Little person of the year award

* 1987 Pop Warner spirit award recipient

* 1988 Grandma's favorite little tyke of the year.

* 1989 Doogie the dog's favorite ass to lick award

* 1990 King of the sandbox award

* 1998 NFL Comeback Player of the Year

* 3× Grey Cup champion

* 3× Grey Cup MVP (1992, 1996, 1997)

* 6× CFL's Most Outstanding Player (1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997)

* 1983 Liberty Bowl MVP

 

 

Yeah, he sucked.

 

Missed a few. Fixed!

[Randolph Duke]

Flutie messiah

Mullet flowing in the breeze

The People's Q.B.

[reddogblitz]

correct.

 

incidentally, the famous 5-game "franchise-saving" winning streak started the next game (2 weeks later b/c of a bye) vs. steve young and the 49ers, a game in which a bills-QB-not-named-flutie went 19-27 (70.4 %), 254 yds, 1 TD, 0 int, and a QB rating of 112.3. But according to all the flutie-lovers, he started the winning streak all by himself.

 

again, i'm not touting johnson here, but let's all be honest about what level of player flutie was and why the team was winning. it wasn't all or even mostly him. look at the numbers objectively.

 

I was at this game and Johnson played GREAT. What happened to him? After a while it got to where he was so predictable. He'd roll out to the right and hang on to the ball and then either get sacked, run out of bounds, or throw it away at the last second. The Bills were like 0-3 and the 49ers were 4-0 or something coming into thsi game. My wife and her cousin were in the parking lot before the game saying where do we meet up at half time if the Bills are getting blowed out? I asked them what are we going to do if the Bills do the blowing out? They laughed.

 

Here he seemed to be a very adequate QB who should be able to win with a great defense. How come he didn't except in this one game and Flutie could the rest of the season? That's what you need to objectively ask yourself.

[reddogblitz]

See above article.

 

 

 

 

Missed a few. Fixed!

 

You also forgot 1986 America's Favorite Midget

[The Senator]

See above article.

see article below...

 

link

 

"Bucky" is an idiot.

[Steely Dan]

see article below...

 

link

 

"Bucky" is an idiot.

 

The site should be called; "Top Shelf; Where Doug Can't Reach The Cookies"

 

So BG has some detractors. Since he came down hard on Flutie it's not surprising.

[thebandit27]

I was at this game and Johnson played GREAT. What happened to him? After a while it got to where he was so predictable. He'd roll out to the right and hang on to the ball and then either get sacked, run out of bounds, or throw it away at the last second. The Bills were like 0-3 and the 49ers were 4-0 or something coming into thsi game. My wife and her cousin were in the parking lot before the game saying where do we meet up at half time if the Bills are getting blowed out? I asked them what are we going to do if the Bills do the blowing out? They laughed.

 

Here he seemed to be a very adequate QB who should be able to win with a great defense. How come he didn't except in this one game and Flutie could the rest of the season? That's what you need to objectively ask yourself.

 

Because Johnson was terrible, that's why.

 

For the last time, this is not a Rob Johnson discussion. Believe me, not all Flutie discussions have to end up at "he's better than Rob Johnson". This does not define someone as a good QB.

 

Kordell Stewart was better than Rob Johnson, that does not make him a good QB. Actually, now this has me curious...I wonder what the comparison between Kordell and Flutie looks like...

 

http://www.nfl.com/players/dougflutie/profile?id=FLU553722

http://www.nfl.com/players/kordellstewart/...le?id=STE777062

 

Eerily similar, except that Flutie more often threw for more TDs than INTs during the regular season, while Kordell had a better ratio during his best statistical season than Flutie. Also, let's keep in mind that Kordell took two teams to the AFC Championship game, and has more playoff starts and wins than Flutie.

 

Wow, this may spark an even better debate--who's better: Flutie or Stewart?

[Cynical]

see article below...

 

link

 

"Bucky" is an idiot.

 

Does Jim Trotter and Nick Canepa of the San Diego Union Tribune also qualify as 'idiots'?

 

By the end of the 2001 season, neither one of those guys were "enthralled" by Flutie either.

[San Jose Bills Fan]

Bandit, here are three of your most recent posts in correct sequence. I've bolded the parts where you talk about Johnson. You keep admonishing people about bringing him up but you are as guilty as anyone.

 

(and again, much like last year's edwards-losman stuff, i didn't like either johnson or flutie), johnson did look very good that game (18-28, 231 yds, 3 tds, 64.3 % comp, 110.9 QB rat.) and Buffalo should've won. it certainly wasn't anywhere near the moods i've seen leaving the stadium after the home opener vs. denver in 2007, the dallas monday nighter, the cleveland monday nighter, the new england homer last december, etc. to chalk up the "saving the franchise" point to your perception of the fans' collective mood after a game 11 years ago is pretty subjective, wouldn't you say?

Furthermore, to refute your point that there wasn't a sense of pessimism surrounding the team in that week 3 game of 1998, it was brought up that the Rams game was the season opener on a picture perfect day and that there was only just over 65,000 in attendance. You never responded to this. Conceding the points of others is how you gain credibility.

 

correct.

 

incidentally, the famous 5-game "franchise-saving" winning streak started the next game (2 weeks later b/c of a bye) vs. steve young and the 49ers, a game in which a bills-QB-not-named-flutie went 19-27 (70.4 %), 254 yds, 1 TD, 0 int, and a QB rating of 112.3. But according to all the flutie-lovers, he started the winning streak all by himself.

 

again, i'm not touting johnson here, but let's all be honest about what level of player flutie was and why the team was winning. it wasn't all or even mostly him. look at the numbers objectively.

Again, you brought Johnson up for the 2nd post in a row while also citing his statistics.

 

I was at this game and Johnson played GREAT. What happened to him? After a while it got to where he was so predictable. He'd roll out to the right and hang on to the ball and then either get sacked, run out of bounds, or throw it away at the last second. The Bills were like 0-3 and the 49ers were 4-0 or something coming into thsi game. My wife and her cousin were in the parking lot before the game saying where do we meet up at half time if the Bills are getting blowed out? I asked them what are we going to do if the Bills do the blowing out? They laughed.

 

Here he seemed to be a very adequate QB who should be able to win with a great defense. How come he didn't except in this one game and Flutie could the rest of the season? That's what you need to objectively ask yourself.

 

Look. This post isn't evolving because people want to cycle back the same arguments from page 3. Can we start fresh?

 

I'm asking you Bandit, Flutie won when we needed wins. There was no other quarterback on the roster who could do this for us. According to Mark Gaughan's mailbag response to my question, he stated in the Bflo News that he gives Flutie and Erkie Kailbourne equal credit for saving the Bills. So can you concede at all that Flutie helped save the team when there was no one else on the roster who could? Yes/No please, no explanation necessary.

 

Also, can you explain to me why someone who contributed to two playoff appearances and possibly helped save the franchise when there was not another QB on the roster who could do this, should be treated with scorn and contempt?

 

I really need to understand this pathological negativity towards someone like Flutie who only helped us when he was here.

 

I understand the negativity towards Jason Peters but someone has to help me understand why a person who did what Flutie did is treated as some sort of villain, like he somehow wronged us.

 

Because of his personality????

[The Senator]

Does Jim Trotter and Nick Canepa of the San Diego Union Tribune also qualify as 'idiots'?

 

By the end of the 2001 season, neither one of those guys were "enthralled" by Flutie either.

Can't say - I'm not familiar with their body of work. Was it Flutie's supposed 'divisiveness' that bothered them, or the declining play of a 40 year-old QB in the twilight of his career?

[San Jose Bills Fan]

Flutie messiah

Mullet flowing in the breeze

The People's Q.B.

I like your haiku. Here's mine:

 

The Bills got much help.

From an unlikely source.

Throw him in the trash.

[San Jose Bills Fan]

Franchise was dying.

Flutie steps in, tickets sell.

Two playoffs he was a bum.

[BuffaloPride]

Bandit, here are three of your most recent posts in correct sequence. I've bolded the parts where you talk about Johnson. You keep admonishing people about bringing him up but you are as guilty as anyone.

 

 

Furthermore, to refute your point that there wasn't a sense of pessimism surrounding the team in that week 3 game of 1998, it was brought up that the Rams game was the season opener on a picture perfect day and that there was only just over 65,000 in attendance. You never responded to this. Conceding the points of others is how you gain credibility.

 

 

Again, you brought Johnson up for the 2nd post in a row while also citing his statistics.

 

 

 

Look. This post isn't evolving because people want to cycle back the same arguments from page 3. Can we start fresh?

 

I'm asking you Bandit, Flutie won when we needed wins. There was no other quarterback on the roster who could do this for us. According to Mark Gaughan's mailbag response to my question, he stated in the Bflo News that he gives Flutie and Erkie Kailbourne equal credit for saving the Bills. So can you concede at all that Flutie helped save the team when there was no one else on the roster who could? Yes/No please, no explanation necessary.

 

Also, can you explain to me why someone who contributed to two playoff appearances and possibly helped save the franchise when there was not another QB on the roster who could do this, should be treated with scorn and contempt?

 

I really need to understand this pathological negativity towards someone like Flutie who only helped us when he was here.

 

I understand the negativity towards Jason Peters but someone has to help me understand why a person who did what Flutie did is treated as some sort of villain, like he somehow wronged us.

 

Because of his personality????

SJB, you continue to talk about everyting Flutie did for Buffalo but all you can come up with is that he saved the franchise. Look, I'll acknowledge that some fans bought tickets because of him, but the majority of fans , like myself, bought tickets because we love our team. You act as though this town owes him. Buffalo made him a rich man to the tune of 5 mil a season. And the good people of WNY lined up at supermarkets to purchase Flutie Flakes, flutie bars, and those faggy little Flutie bears. Doug Flutie prospered very well here in Buffalo. That said, "Ask not what Flutie did for Buffalo, ask what Buffalo did for Flutie."

[San Jose Bills Fan]

Help needed was found.

Bleeding stops playoffs are made.

Throw him 'neath the bus.

[The Senator]

Doug signed for peanuts

Promised a fair chance to start

"Never mind", said Wade.

[VOR]

It was humiliating because it was the first game back in Philly since he was run out of town, it was just after his narcotic overdose (the fans were chanting "OD, OD"), he had three catches for 45 yards against a not so great Philly secondary.

Yeah, and Bledsoe didn't look his way until the 2nd half. Which prompted Jerruh Jones to say ""I was surprised Terrell didn't have more catches. That was not our plan."

Yes, the Eagles were making the playoffs annually----until TO's sophomore season.

Good point. TO was suspended after the 7th game of that season, with the Eagles having a 4-3 record. Doing the math, there were 9 more games after that. And he was top-3 in catches, yards, and TD's for WR's in the NFL.

You miss the point. It's not like Garcia was caught in a closet patting down another man. TO just outed him because he had the opportunity to do so, to be cruel, not because he may actually be gay. Conversely, TO actually OD'd and it was initially reported as a possible suicide attempt. The typical PR circus that followed was classic TO drama.

I'm not missing any point. You said that TO tried to commit suicide. Then you started mocking him for it, or were you mocking "the drama?" What I find funny is that you'd do that, and then get your panties in a wad over TO over calling Garcia gay, which I admitted was wrong. And we don't know what TO stumbled on, given that he was teammates with Garcia for 5 years.

Look, you said Garcia was a "fraud". No facts to back it up. I pointed out that his numbers in SF, with TO, were pretty solid, in fact very similar to Kelly's best stretch (on a much better team). Garcia's performance after SF does not negate his results while he was there. In fact, he and TO were very good for eachother and TO has not doen better with another QB ever. You and TO cannot acknowledge this. Instead, you reach for the "some fan you are for questioning the greatness of Jim Kelly" noodle. Well played!

Of course you'll take the tack that all that matters is a QB's performance with one team, and everything after means nothing. That's the excuse you use for Flutie "just losing" with the Chargers. A great, or even a good QB, will win wherever he goes. Not to mention you've used the "TO is on his 3rd team..." thing several times.

Even you can do the math here--he is entering his second season as the starter, not the backup who keeps coming in for the poorly playing or injured 1st round bust who is out of the league. And while the WR are top notch, you're stretching it more than a bit by mentioning Fine and Nelson, who have yet to do anything in the league.

Trent started the 2nd half of the 2007 season, and was the starter going into last season. He's not merely a "2nd year starter." And Fine and Nelson won't be any worse than Royal. If Trent has a bad year and it's because of the TE's...

See, this is what you do--you are fighting an army of straw men (I never even insinuated that either of those QBs was a "god", HOF caliber, or even great). You just made that up because you can't keep up. You say things like "Garcia was a fraud", "Flutie was as big a self promoter as TO" (or "the cops falsified the police report"--another gem), yet you simply can't back this up. Instead you say that all of the evidence of TO-like Flutie behavior disappeared before it could be documented in the internet! Now you glom onto this rant by some hometown hockey hack, which quotes no one, not even anonymously, and attributes nothing---all after Flutie has left town.

 

If you want to bash the best QB the Bills have had since Kelly (and he was, regardless of what he did before or after the Bills), then go ahead, Superfan. Make your people proud.

Wow, "the best QB the Bills have had since Kelly?" Isn't that like Jauron being the best head coach since Phillips?

 

And the article by Gleason is what it is and proof of what I've been saying. But as is the case, you'll dismiss it because it destroys your belief.

[The Senator]

And the article by Gleason is what it is and proof of what I've been saying. But as is the case, you'll dismiss it because it destroys your belief.

Wow - 'Bucky's' opinion = proof??????

[thebandit27]

Bandit, here are three of your most recent posts in correct sequence. I've bolded the parts where you talk about Johnson. You keep admonishing people about bringing him up but you are as guilty as anyone.

 

 

Furthermore, to refute your point that there wasn't a sense of pessimism surrounding the team in that week 3 game of 1998, it was brought up that the Rams game was the season opener on a picture perfect day and that there was only just over 65,000 in attendance. You never responded to this. Conceding the points of others is how you gain credibility.

 

 

Again, you brought Johnson up for the 2nd post in a row while also citing his statistics.

 

 

 

Look. This post isn't evolving because people want to cycle back the same arguments from page 3. Can we start fresh?

 

I'm asking you Bandit, Flutie won when we needed wins. There was no other quarterback on the roster who could do this for us. According to Mark Gaughan's mailbag response to my question, he stated in the Bflo News that he gives Flutie and Erkie Kailbourne equal credit for saving the Bills. So can you concede at all that Flutie helped save the team when there was no one else on the roster who could? Yes/No please, no explanation necessary.

 

Also, can you explain to me why someone who contributed to two playoff appearances and possibly helped save the franchise when there was not another QB on the roster who could do this, should be treated with scorn and contempt?

 

I really need to understand this pathological negativity towards someone like Flutie who only helped us when he was here.

 

I understand the negativity towards Jason Peters but someone has to help me understand why a person who did what Flutie did is treated as some sort of villain, like he somehow wronged us.

 

Because of his personality????

 

here we go, one at a time:

 

- my mentioning of johnson was done moreso to point out that i remember fans responding positively to his play in those games (vs. st. louis and SF), which was a response to your assertion that people were feeling "doom and gloom" about the team. there was no intention to compare the two players, which--if you re-read my posts--is what i plead with the flutie-supporters to stop doing. also, my response to the third post you referenced was that johnson was a terrible QB.

 

- you know as well as i do that ticket sales are not a concrete barometer of fans' feelings about the team. if they were, how could buffalo sell out as often as they have during this decade of futility? people didn't come to the rams game because the team didn't look like a contender, sure. the san francisco game sold out the next week, however, and that couldn't possibly have had anything to do with flutie, since he was yet to play a meaningful role on the team at that point. this was the basis for my even bringing up rob johnson, to say that people began showing up after he played all of one good game.

 

- as much as you'd like there to be a yes/no answer with no explanation, i think you'd agree that the discussion over the last 11 years has grown far passed absolutes. the original statement that both you (http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=90671&view=findpost&p=1457949) and canbuffan34 (http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=90671&view=findpost&p=1457884) made was that flutie saved the franchise. not helped, not contributed, not that he was the QB on the team that played well enough to sell enough suite tickets to save the franchise, just that he plain and simply did it himself. symantics, in this case, make a huge difference. a huge difference, because (and you'll likely admit this yourself) flutie fanatics have a propensity to vastly over-state his on-the-field NFL credentials (which, as i pointed out, are really quite comparable to kordell stewart). so now to your question: did he HELP save the franchise? yes. as much as anyone else on that team. honestly, if eric moulds doesn't step up and have a breakout campaign, the team doesn't win either. if guys like sam cowart and bruce smith don't turn in huge performances that season, the team doesn't win. that, more than anything, is my point regarding the saving of the franchise. can you concede that much to me?

 

- i don't recall ever expressing "scorn and contempt" on this board, so it may be impossible for me to answer why others choose to express that sentiment. all i've ever said in this thread is that he wasn't a great QB, and that he wasn't a great teammate, and that those were my two reasons for disliking him. if you can show me where i expressed "scorn" or "contempt", i'll gladly explain myself. for me personally, my impression that he wasn't a good teammate comes from the passive-agressive game he'd play during interviews, that ALWAYS irked me. "I" was able to make this play, but "we" weren't able to convert this 3rd down. "I" felt great out there, but "we" couldn't hold it together defensively. i noticed it in every single interview i ever heard from the guy, and (having done some work for the AP during that time) heard from colleagues that it was even more prevalent in his intra-squad communication. can you chalk that up to personality? i don't know, but what i can tell you is that if one of my teammates made a point to speak like that about my team, he'd have a whole lot of explaining to do.

[thebandit27]

SJB, you continue to talk about everyting Flutie did for Buffalo but all you can come up with is that he saved the franchise. Look, I'll acknowledge that some fans bought tickets because of him, but the majority of fans , like myself, bought tickets because we love our team. You act as though this town owes him. Buffalo made him a rich man to the tune of 5 mil a season. And the good people of WNY lined up at supermarkets to purchase Flutie Flakes, flutie bars, and those faggy little Flutie bears. Doug Flutie prospered very well here in Buffalo. That said, "Ask not what Flutie did for Buffalo, ask what Buffalo did for Flutie."

 

bingo

[VOR]

Wow - 'Bucky's' opinion = proof??????

Why, you think he made the whole thing up?