swede316 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I haven't seen anything on the US news about this. http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Politics/2...ery_343694.html I think this is dumb but hey that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Why would the US apologize for African slavery? Are we also apologizing for slavery in Asia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 How about having the Africans apologize for selling their own people to the slave traders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastback Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I'm sorry too. Now can we move on from this and stop using that embarassing period in our history as a crutch for all that ails black americans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 No living person in the United States was a slave or a slave owner. Who exactly is apologizing to whom here? I certainly don't owe anybody an apology. Maybe next Spain will apologize to the Bahamas for all that nasty Christopher Columbus business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I'm Polish (my maternal grandfather came over). I want apologies and reparations from Germany, Russia/USSR and the Austria-Hungarian Empire for taking over Poland before WWI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I'm Polish (my maternal grandfather came over). I want apologies and reparations from Germany, Russia/USSR and the Austria-Hungarian Empire for taking over Poland before WWI I'm Hungarian. I want apologies and reparations from you for the period 1333-1386 when Poland grabbed Hungarian lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I'm Polish (my maternal grandfather came over). I want apologies and reparations from Germany, Russia/USSR and the Austria-Hungarian Empire for taking over Poland before WWI We're extremely sorry for your parents, and we're doubly sorry you had to be born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 FWIW, I believe that there is something in the Senate version that states that this cannot be used as a basis for reparations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Congressional Transcript. SENATE (standing and tapping chest) Our bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I'm sorry that my ancestors wiped out half of South America, maybe we can pay them back and buy up the rest of their cocaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 What about the hundreds of millions of people who's ancestors were still in Europe during slavery? Will this apology contain language that excludes them from it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 We're extremely sorry for your parents, and we're doubly sorry you had to be born. The compassion of liberals is breathtaking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 The compassion of liberals is breathtaking... ..yeah, but dont say the word c u n t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I'm Polish (my maternal grandfather came over). I want apologies and reparations from Germany, Russia/USSR and the Austria-Hungarian Empire for taking over Poland before WWI And the Swedes, and the Teutonic Knights (for which you'll probably have to go to the Vatican). And given that the Chinese claim Ghengis Khan as Chinese, you might want an apology from them, too... Hell, you're Polish. You deserve an apology from damn near everyone, including fellow Poles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 The compassion of liberals is breathtaking... don't mistake the irony of kelly being fair and balanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 The wording also apologizes for Jim Crow..... A concurrent resolution (S. Con. Res. 26), apologizing for the enslavement and racial segregation of African Americans. Whereas, during the history of the Nation, the United States has grown into a symbol of democracy and freedom around the world; Whereas the legacy of African Americans is interwoven with the very fabric of the democracy and freedom of the United States; Whereas millions of Africans and their descendants were enslaved in the United States and the 13 American colonies from 1619 through 1865; Whereas Africans forced into slavery were brutalized, humiliated, dehumanized, and subjected to the indignity of being stripped of their names and heritage; Whereas many enslaved families were torn apart after family members were sold separately; Whereas the system of slavery and the visceral racism against people of African descent upon which it depended became enmeshed in the social fabric of the United States; Whereas slavery was not officially abolished until the ratification of the 13th amendment to the Constitution of the United States in 1865, after the end of the Civil War; Whereas after emancipation from 246 years of slavery, African Americans soon saw the fleeting political, social, and economic gains they made during Reconstruction eviscerated by virulent racism, lynchings, disenfranchisement, Black Codes, and racial segregation laws that imposed a rigid system of officially sanctioned racial segregation in virtually all areas of life; Whereas the system of de jure racial segregation known as ``Jim Crow'', which arose in certain parts of the United States after the Civil War to create separate and unequal societies for Whites and African Americans, was a direct result of the racism against people of African descent that was engendered by slavery; Whereas the system of Jim Crow laws officially existed until the 1960's--a century after the official end of slavery in the United States--until Congress took action to end it, but the vestiges of Jim Crow continue to this day; Whereas African Americans continue to suffer from the consequences of slavery and Jim Crow laws--long after both systems were formally abolished--through enormous damage and loss, both tangible and intangible, including the loss of human dignity and liberty; Whereas the story of the enslavement and de jure segregation of African Americans and the dehumanizing atrocities committed against them should not be purged from or minimized in the telling of the history of the United States; Whereas those African Americans who suffered under slavery and Jim Crow laws, and their descendants, exemplify the strength of the human character and provide a model of courage, commitment, and perseverance; Whereas, on July 8, 2003, during a trip to Goree Island, Senegal, a former slave port, President George W. Bush acknowledged the continuing legacy of slavery in life in the United States and the need to confront that legacy, when he stated that slavery ``was . . . one of the greatest crimes of history . . . The racial bigotry fed by slavery did not end with slavery or with segregation. And many of the issues that still trouble America have roots in the bitter experience of other times. But however long the journey, our destiny is set: liberty and justice for all.''; Whereas President Bill Clinton also acknowledged the deep-seated problems caused by the continuing legacy of racism against African Americans that began with slavery, when he initiated a national dialogue about race; Whereas an apology for centuries of brutal dehumanization and injustices cannot erase the past, but confession of the wrongs committed and a formal apology to African Americans will help bind the wounds of the Nation that are rooted in slavery and can speed racial healing and reconciliation and help the people of the United States understand the past and honor the history of all people of the United States; Whereas the legislatures of the Commonwealth of Virginia and the States of Alabama, Florida, Maryland, and North Carolina have taken the lead in adopting resolutions officially expressing appropriate remorse for slavery, and other State legislatures are considering similar resolutions; and Whereas it is important for the people of the United States, who legally recognized slavery through the Constitution and the laws of the United States, to make a formal apology for slavery and for its successor, Jim Crow, so they can move forward and seek reconciliation, justice, and harmony for all people of the United States: Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the Senate (the House of Representatives concurring), That the sense of the Congress is the following: (1) Apology for the enslavement and segregation of african-americans.--The Congress-- [Page: S6762] GPO's PDF (A) acknowledges the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery and Jim Crow laws; (B) apologizes to African Americans on behalf of the people of the United States, for the wrongs committed against them and their ancestors who suffered under slavery and Jim Crow laws; and © expresses its recommitment to the principle that all people are created equal and endowed with inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and calls on all people of the United States to work toward eliminating racial prejudices, injustices, and discrimination from our society. (2) Disclaimer.--Nothing in this resolution-- (A) authorizes or supports any claim against the United States; or (B) serves as a settlement of any claim against the United States. The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. Under the previous order, there will now be 60 minutes of debate with respect to the concurrent resolution, with the time equally divided and controlled between the two leaders or their designees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 The wording also apologizes for Jim Crow..... A concurrent resolution (S. Con. Res. 26), apologizing for the enslavement and racial segregation of African Americans. Whereas, during the history of the Nation, the United States has grown into a symbol of democracy and freedom around the world; Whereas the legacy of African Americans is interwoven with the very fabric of the democracy and freedom of the United States; Whereas millions of Africans and their descendants were enslaved in the United States and the 13 American colonies from 1619 through 1865; Whereas Africans forced into slavery were brutalized, humiliated, dehumanized, and subjected to the indignity of being stripped of their names and heritage; Whereas many enslaved families were torn apart after family members were sold separately; Whereas the system of slavery and the visceral racism against people of African descent upon which it depended became enmeshed in the social fabric of the United States; Whereas slavery was not officially abolished until the ratification of the 13th amendment to the Constitution of the United States in 1865, after the end of the Civil War; Whereas after emancipation from 246 years of slavery, African Americans soon saw the fleeting political, social, and economic gains they made during Reconstruction eviscerated by virulent racism, lynchings, disenfranchisement, Black Codes, and racial segregation laws that imposed a rigid system of officially sanctioned racial segregation in virtually all areas of life; Whereas the system of de jure racial segregation known as ``Jim Crow'', which arose in certain parts of the United States after the Civil War to create separate and unequal societies for Whites and African Americans, was a direct result of the racism against people of African descent that was engendered by slavery; Whereas the system of Jim Crow laws officially existed until the 1960's--a century after the official end of slavery in the United States--until Congress took action to end it, but the vestiges of Jim Crow continue to this day; Whereas African Americans continue to suffer from the consequences of slavery and Jim Crow laws--long after both systems were formally abolished--through enormous damage and loss, both tangible and intangible, including the loss of human dignity and liberty; Whereas the story of the enslavement and de jure segregation of African Americans and the dehumanizing atrocities committed against them should not be purged from or minimized in the telling of the history of the United States; Whereas those African Americans who suffered under slavery and Jim Crow laws, and their descendants, exemplify the strength of the human character and provide a model of courage, commitment, and perseverance; Whereas, on July 8, 2003, during a trip to Goree Island, Senegal, a former slave port, President George W. Bush acknowledged the continuing legacy of slavery in life in the United States and the need to confront that legacy, when he stated that slavery ``was . . . one of the greatest crimes of history . . . The racial bigotry fed by slavery did not end with slavery or with segregation. And many of the issues that still trouble America have roots in the bitter experience of other times. But however long the journey, our destiny is set: liberty and justice for all.''; Whereas President Bill Clinton also acknowledged the deep-seated problems caused by the continuing legacy of racism against African Americans that began with slavery, when he initiated a national dialogue about race; Whereas an apology for centuries of brutal dehumanization and injustices cannot erase the past, but confession of the wrongs committed and a formal apology to African Americans will help bind the wounds of the Nation that are rooted in slavery and can speed racial healing and reconciliation and help the people of the United States understand the past and honor the history of all people of the United States; Whereas the legislatures of the Commonwealth of Virginia and the States of Alabama, Florida, Maryland, and North Carolina have taken the lead in adopting resolutions officially expressing appropriate remorse for slavery, and other State legislatures are considering similar resolutions; and Whereas it is important for the people of the United States, who legally recognized slavery through the Constitution and the laws of the United States, to make a formal apology for slavery and for its successor, Jim Crow, so they can move forward and seek reconciliation, justice, and harmony for all people of the United States: Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the Senate (the House of Representatives concurring), That the sense of the Congress is the following: (1) Apology for the enslavement and segregation of african-americans.--The Congress-- [Page: S6762] GPO's PDF (A) acknowledges the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery and Jim Crow laws; (B) apologizes to African Americans on behalf of the people of the United States, for the wrongs committed against them and their ancestors who suffered under slavery and Jim Crow laws; and © expresses its recommitment to the principle that all people are created equal and endowed with inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and calls on all people of the United States to work toward eliminating racial prejudices, injustices, and discrimination from our society. (2) Disclaimer.--Nothing in this resolution-- (A) authorizes or supports any claim against the United States; or (B) serves as a settlement of any claim against the United States. The ACTING PRESIDENT pro tempore. Under the previous order, there will now be 60 minutes of debate with respect to the concurrent resolution, with the time equally divided and controlled between the two leaders or their designees. How come Delaware and Maryland never apologized? Those were slave states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 How come Delaware and Maryland never apologized? Those were slave states. Maybe they are still pissed about the 13th amendment....the Emancipation Proclamation missed them the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 if they start paying out reparations to descendants of slaves, those descendants of slaves need to start paying out their own reparations to descendants of Union soldiers who fought to free the slaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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