BillsWatch Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 According to Don Pompei http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/30851442/ Quarterbacks The two best are Rex Grossman and J.P. Losman, a pair of former first-round picks who bombed out with their first teams. It is interesting that no teams up to this point have tried to turn these players into reclamation projects. We have seen many passers fail with their first team only to find themselves with a second team later in their careers, and it is possible Grossman or Losman could be one of those players. There is a trend among teams to go with two young backups rather than to bring in a retread, however. Rumor is his real name is KC Joyner.
davefan66 Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 According to Don Pompeihttp://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/30851442/ Quarterbacks The two best are Rex Grossman and J.P. Losman, a pair of former first-round picks who bombed out with their first teams. It is interesting that no teams up to this point have tried to turn these players into reclamation projects. We have seen many passers fail with their first team only to find themselves with a second team later in their careers, and it is possible Grossman or Losman could be one of those players. There is a trend among teams to go with two young backups rather than to bring in a retread, however. Rumor is his real name is KC Joyner. They both are still available because, uhm, they s u c k!
bizell Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Rumor is his real name is KC Joyner. just because he's saying they're the "best left" doesn't mean he's saying that they are any good.
/dev/null Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 If Grossman and JP are the best available There's not anything good left
Sisyphean Bills Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 There is also a trend for teams to stay with cheaper coaches and smaller staffs. (Trend means not just 1 single team.)
DIE HARD 1967 Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 It would appear to me there are no decent Qb's available
Solomon Grundy Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Let's just hope that Trent Edwards stays upright/injury free this year.
offde-fence Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Those two QB's seem very similar to me in style, as well. I think they'd make a decent fit on a few teams. I'd like to see JP with a really talented QB coach and a decent offense before he's never heard of again...
VJ91 Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 According to Don Pompeihttp://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/30851442/ Quarterbacks The two best are Rex Grossman and J.P. Losman, a pair of former first-round picks who bombed out with their first teams. It is interesting that no teams up to this point have tried to turn these players into reclamation projects. We have seen many passers fail with their first team only to find themselves with a second team later in their careers, and it is possible Grossman or Losman could be one of those players. There is a trend among teams to go with two young backups rather than to bring in a retread, however. Rumor is his real name is KC Joyner. Lost-man will get signed during training camp, as QB's get injured or play their way out of town. As far has him becoming a starter in the NFL that can play 16 games with at least 2,500 yards, 15 TD passes and less INT's, and a steady passer rating over 80, forget it. He could not achieve that behind the Pat's O-line with Moss and Welker, in my humble opinion.
generaLee83 Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 just because he's saying they're the "best left" doesn't mean he's saying that they are any good. Exactly. If I go into Walmart to purchase a bucket and the only one that's on the shelf is full of feces then it's the best left.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 According to Don Pompeihttp://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/30851442/ Quarterbacks The two best are Rex Grossman and J.P. Losman, a pair of former first-round picks who bombed out with their first teams. It is interesting that no teams up to this point have tried to turn these players into reclamation projects. We have seen many passers fail with their first team only to find themselves with a second team later in their careers, and it is possible Grossman or Losman could be one of those players. There is a trend among teams to go with two young backups rather than to bring in a retread, however. Rumor is his real name is KC Joyner. Grossman is trying out for the UFL. According to UFLAccess.com, which is a site for fans, former Bears quarterback Rex Grossman will participate in drills in front of UFL head coaches. The Web site quotes a Las Vegas television station, saying that another player, Graham Harrell, will also participate in the drills in a "pro day" in Las Vegas. A representative from the UFL would not confirm any players who will be in attendance at the workout. http://espn.go.com/chicago/story?id=4182092
ieatcrayonz Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 As far has him becoming a starter in the NFL that can play 16 games with at least 2,500 yards, 15 TD passes and less INT's, and a steady passer rating over 80, forget it. He could not achieve that behind the Pat's O-line with Moss and Welker, in my humble opinion. I also doubt clean up the city boy could achieve those stats with Patriots level talent. In order for him to do that, he would probably need talent around him at an incredibly high level. I mean real high. I mean 2006 Buffalo Bills high.
billfan63 Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Lost-man will get signed during training camp, as QB's get injured or play their way out of town. As far has him becoming a starter in the NFL that can play 16 games with at least 2,500 yards, 15 TD passes and less INT's, and a steady passer rating over 80, forget it. He could not achieve that behind the Pat's O-line with Moss and Welker, in my humble opinion.He did it in 2006 with the Bills O-line and receivers, no reason to think it couldn't happen again
ieatcrayonz Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 He did it in 2006 with the Bills O-line and receivers, no reason to think it couldn't happen again But what are the odds that the NFL will ever see that level of talent assembled on one team again?
vincec Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Losman would be a decent backup for a good team if he had a couple of years under their system to settle down and figure things out. Look, if Todd Collins can play a few good games then Losman can as well.
zazie Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 sadly, even with the extra chances I gave JP for being a first class citizen of Buffalo, he has run out of the benefit of the doubt. He blows. Hope he can catch on as a backup for a couple of years, pad his bank. But, he really should be thinking about what is next in life.
DrFishfinder Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 According to Don Pompeihttp://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/30851442/ Quarterbacks The two best are Rex Grossman and J.P. Losman, a pair of former first-round picks who bombed out with their first teams. It is interesting that no teams up to this point have tried to turn these players into reclamation projects. We have seen many passers fail with their first team only to find themselves with a second team later in their careers, and it is possible Grossman or Losman could be one of those players. There is a trend among teams to go with two young backups rather than to bring in a retread, however. Rumor is his real name is KC Joyner. I would have liked to see Grossman as our B/U QB. JP is an unmitigated bust in every possible aspect.
VJ91 Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 I also doubt clean up the city boy could achieve those stats with Patriots level talent. In order for him to do that, he would probably need talent around him at an incredibly high level. I mean real high. I mean 2006 Buffalo Bills high. I forgot all about 2006. But can you blame me? Lost-man himself forgot how to play that well half way through '07.
thewildrabbit Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 I'm not taking JP's side here, just go back and look at his Head coaches and QB coaches and how frequently they changed, not many QB's could evolve under those circumstances. Not to mention how he kept getting pulled again and again, that would sap anyone's confidence. How would you like Turk Schonert as your QB coach or offensive coordinator, a 10 year backup holding a clipboard and 10 year assistant coach who never achieved anything himself. Ralph Wilson wanted him fired and replaced after last season. Jauron kept him claiming he wanted "continuity" on the team, what a load of HS. This coaching staff is a QB killer and will be until they are all fired and replaced. Want to see someone have a tough time finding another job, see where Schonert goes after this season.
Hossage Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Who here can picture lovie smith saying "Rex Grossman is our quarterback."?
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