Beerball Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Players are growing frustrated with the process... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Players are growing frustrated with the process... There are also legal reasons why you can't release a persons medical information. These days, everybody signs a document saying that you have been given a copy of the physician's or the hospital's privacy policy. Not that it doesn't leak out, or get sold. Based on personal experience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 There are also legal reasons why you can't release a persons medical information. These days, everybody signs a document saying that you have been given a copy of the physician's or the hospital's privacy policy. Not that it doesn't leak out, or get sold. Based on personal experience... Interesting point, SiC - do the HIPAA privacy rules apply to the NFL's injury reporting requirements? "The league's system is pretty straightforward - "probable" means there's a 75 percent chance of a player being ready to go on Sunday, "questionable" means 50 percent chance of playing, "doubtful" means 25 percent chance of playing, and "out" means out. Prior to the 2004 season, Commissioner Paul Tagliabue sent a memo to each team outlining tightened requirements on reporting injuries. He stated that teams needed to be more specific in their diagnosis, and issued a warning about the repercussions of falsifying information." link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Interesting point, SiC - do the HIPPAA privacy rules apply to the NFL's injury reporting requirements? "The league's system is pretty straightforward - "probable" means there's a 75 percent chance of a player being ready to go on Sunday, "questionable" means 50 percent chance of playing, "doubtful" means 25 percent chance of playing, and "out" means out. Prior to the 2004 season, Commissioner Paul Tagliabue sent a memo to each team outlining tightened requirements on reporting injuries. He stated that teams needed to be more specific in their diagnosis, and issued a warning about the repercussions of falsifying information." link I think it does, at least in a strict intepretation. I recall Marvin in the press, refusing to give info on WR Peter Warrick and citing confidentiality. However, the info the press was looking for, was Warrick's somewhat mysterious leg injury. A few years later, the same came up with ST/Safety/WR Ethan Kilmer - it was just called a leg injury. BTW, and unless it changed, it's a 10K fine for playing a player that you listed as out. They did that with Warrick, one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 22, 2009 Author Share Posted May 22, 2009 I think it does, at least in a strict intepretation. I recall Marvin in the press, refusing to give info on WR Peter Warrick and citing confidentiality. However, the info the press was looking for, was Warrick's somewhat mysterious leg injury. A few years later, the same came up with ST/Safety/WR Ethan Kilmer - it was just called a leg injury. BTW, and unless it changed, it's a 10K fine for playing a player that you listed as out. They did that with Warrick, one game. I think that Tucker's article is shining light on how being listed improperly can affect a player down the road. Having someone listed as probable week after week with no chance of that player suiting up may give other teams & the public the impression that they player is soft. Teams obviously do this so that the opponent doesn't know who's in and who's out. You are correct (IMO) about confidentiality being involved in what a team can say about a player, but stating their status for a game is apparently outside of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I don't understand why a team should be required to make any such report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I don't understand why a team should be required to make any such report. I can think of many bookies who could explain it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Players are growing frustrated with the process... Again, there's yet another insinuation that the Cheatriots* are manipulating the injury report for their own gain. Isn't the team good enough to win without cheating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I can think of many bookies who could explain it to you. Bingo! That's all it is for. It's not for the gamesmanship of it. It's not for safety. It's not for the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 “I had a broken bone and I was trying to play with it,” Maroney said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Again, there's yet another insinuation that the Cheatriots* are manipulating the injury report for their own gain. Isn't the team good enough to win without cheating? IIRC, Brady was reported as having a sore shoulder for every game, for years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 IIRC, Brady was reported as having a sore shoulder for every game, for years... No doubt opposing teams were shocked every game when they saw Brady trotting onto the field for the coin toss. That's some more serious "cheating" by the Pats, right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Bingo! That's all it is for. It's not for the gamesmanship of it. It's not for safety. It's not for the fans. So true, so true.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Gotta be frustrating as hell for all the gamblers out there... Belicheat* - In a not-so-subtle attempt to mock the NFL, Belicheat* listed 15 players as probable on the injury report before New England's* Week 6 game at Denver. Among the players* initially on the list were Richard* Seymour* and Troy* Brown*, neither* of whom* even traveled with the team*. Belicheat* was being a tremendous baby and hypocrite, since he* is notorious for manipulating and concealing information on his* injury reports. And, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree... Another example occurred when Chicago voiced concern after Cleveland coach Romeo* Crennel* - a former Belicheat* assistant - failed to report receiver Braylon Edwards as out on Saturday when he was hospitalized with an infection in his arm. Crennel*, a first-year coach, claimed that he was unaware that he had to report changes on Saturdays, too. The league was investigating that bold-faced lie, and deciding whether or not to fine the team. link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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