San-O Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 The Bills have 16 on the depth chart that I see on Bills Daily. They kept 10 - 11 that I can determine last year. Having drafted four (4) DBs with one being a 2nd round pick, who are they going to let go? Understanding that the depth chart will change before the season, who do they dump, John Wendling, George Wilson, John Fox? They are likely going to need to cut 2 or 3 of the DBs they just drafted, which makes the incessant and unyielding drafting of DBs even more confusing to me. If you're going to have a love affair every year with the new crop of DB's, at least draft someone that might possibly make the team. These guys (the F.O.,D.J.) collect DBs like my kids used to collect video games. http://billsdaily.com/depthchart/ P.S. I know, the Bills don't draft any more Dbs than anyone else.
Numark Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Terrence McGee Bryan Scott Donte Whitner Leodis McKelvin Drayton Florence John Wendling Jairus Byrd Ashton Youboty George Wilson Reggie Corner Cary Harris That is what you will probably see. However, simpson may make the team, and if he does, i bet they keep 12. And guess what? All 11 or 12 will contribute in some shape or form.
Magox Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Another thread that criticizes our selection of DB's how original
Numark Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Another thread that criticizes our selection of DB's how original But honestly, who the heck enters OTAs with more DBs than you can keep?
Ramius Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 But honestly, who the heck enters OTAs with more DBs than you can keep? Yeah good call. Obviously DB is the only position where the Bills currently have more players than we can keep. Why even bother with the 80 man roster in the offseason? Lets just keep it at 53 year round.
DaGimp Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 That's it!!!!???? OH MY GOD!!! What will they do....please, please bring in more. You need at least 30 DB's on an NFL team.
zazie Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 I feel bad for the guys drafted in 6th and 7th round, they HAVE to be on the bills, but have very little chance to make the team. Whereas they could be showcasing their skills somewhere that is not so saturated, here they are, thanking DJ just like the rest of us.
Chandler#81 Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Per NFLN, at the Owners meeting, they are currently talking about increasing the roster size in anticipation of 1 or 2 more regular season games soon. Also discussing doing away with 'inactives' due to wear and tear of more plays/games. It appears inevitable -maybe even next year- this will come to pass and the number of healthy DB's will likely be key to late season success.
San-O Posted May 21, 2009 Author Posted May 21, 2009 Another thread that criticizes our selection of DB's how original But they keep doing it! Pick 10 DBs they keep and explain why.
Lurker Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Terrence McGee Leodis McKelvin Drayton Florence Ashton Youboty Reggie Corner Donte Whitner Bryan Scott John Wendling (only because of his ST play) Jairus Bryd George Wilson PS: Cary Harris Gone: Ko Simpson Dustin Fox Ellis Lankster (could go to PS) Lydell Sargent Kyle Ward
Lurker Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 But honestly, who the heck enters OTAs with more DBs than you can keep? Probably every team in the league. They aren't paying these guys right now and it reduces the wear and tear on the starters..
San-O Posted May 21, 2009 Author Posted May 21, 2009 Gone:Ko Simpson Dustin Fox Ellis Lankster (could go to PS) Lydell Sargent Kyle Ward Interesting: Simpson seems to be the odd man out. I can see that.
DazedandConfused Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 But honestly, who the heck enters OTAs with more DBs than you can keep? Just about every good team in the NFL. The best teams are as much about depth as they are about a few (or even one in our publicity restricted little minds) stars who lead the team. Competition is good and injuries are simply a way of life in the NFL. The team is likely doing things the right way when there is for every single unit a demonstrable Pro Bowl level star leading the unit but also real competition between the last guy making the team for a particular unit and the last guy cut from that unit. In the end it is usually ST skill which will make the determination as to who is the last guy on a unit who stays and who is the last guy cut from a unit. The two problems for the Bills is that too often we have not imitated what we have right now at DB for other units and also that the few true stars were really not Pro quality players. But as far as the question of whether there are too many DBs, particularly given the import of solid ST play to this team and in the NFL it is just as legit a question to ask whether there are too few.
SuperKillerRobots Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 The Bills have 16 on the depth chart that I see on Bills Daily. They kept 10 - 11 that I can determine last year. Having drafted four (4) DBs with one being a 2nd round pick, who are they going to let go? Understanding that the depth chart will change before the season, who do they dump, John Wendling, George Wilson, John Fox? They are likely going to need to cut 2 or 3 of the DBs they just drafted, which makes the incessant and unyielding drafting of DBs even more confusing to me. If you're going to have a love affair every year with the new crop of DB's, at least draft someone that might possibly make the team. These guys (the F.O.,D.J.) collect DBs like my kids used to collect video games. http://billsdaily.com/depthchart/ P.S. I know, the Bills don't draft any more Dbs than anyone else. So, would you have felt better if we had drafted that tackle - Joel Bell in the 7th or 6th round and then signed a DB as an undrafted FA? In all probability neither of the two guys we drafted are going to make the team. The only reason they drafted them is because they liked them and knew if they had a choice to sign after the draft, they wouldn't sign with us because we have so many already. The team gets an up close looka t two players they liked and I think you'd have a hard time trying to tell me that there is a real difference between an undrafted guy and a 6th or 7th round pick. this is what happens when you start to have a team with decent depth: your latter round choices are going to the practice squad. It's a good thing. To answer your question though, the following will make the team: McKelvin McGee Corner Youboty Florence Whitner Scott Byrd Wilson Wendling Simpson/Lankster/Harris/7th wide receiver
nucci Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 But honestly, who the heck enters OTAs with more DBs than you can keep? I know someone mentioned it but there are 80 players on the roster right now and they are not keeping all of them. So every team enters OTAs with more players than they will keep.
stuckincincy Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 I know someone mentioned it but there are 80 players on the roster right now and they are not keeping all of them. So every team enters OTAs with more players than they will keep. True...but when ya draft 3 or 4 of them, one has to wonder.
nucci Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 True...but when ya draft 3 or 4 of them, one has to wonder. Agree. Not arguing that point.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Terrence McGee Leodis McKelvin Drayton Florence Ashton Youboty Reggie Corner Donte Whitner Bryan Scott John Wendling (only because of his ST play) Jairus Bryd George Wilson PS: Cary Harris Gone: Ko Simpson Dustin Fox Ellis Lankster (could go to PS) Lydell Sargent Kyle Ward I think you hit the nail on the head. Simpson has been underachieving from day one. I know some of it had to due to injury. His latest brush with the law, and his injuries/lack of production, make him very expendable. Plus Byrd will be a starter from day one. Barring an injury.
/dev/null Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Another thread that criticizes our selection of DB's how original Can JP play DB? That would be an interesting thread
Ramius Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 True...but when ya draft 3 or 4 of them, one has to wonder. I can see it 2 ways. As a player, you're almost better off signing as an UDFA rather than being drafted in round 7. That way you can choose the best situation for yourself to see the field. As a team, you grab the players you want. If there are 2-3 players that you want in round 7 that you could probably sign as UDFAs, you pick the player least likely to sign with you on the open market. Given our roster makeup, Ellis Lankster would be likely to sign elsewhere as an UDFA, where the odds of Joel Bell signing as an UDFA are much better, given our current OT situation.
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