OCinBuffalo Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Required viewing material for this thread Annoying but necessary thread disclaimers, unfortunately : 1. This thread is about what the title said, ONLY! 2. This thread is not about Ann Coulter, whether Ann Coulter is a POA, Global Warming, Liberal media bias, the BBC, your mothers, women in general, my supposed dislike for women, my ability to know what women want, my ability to know what your mother wants , or any other distraction(the usual distortion/distraction people know who they are). 3. This thread is not about any extreme position taken by Ann Coulter, Micheal Moore, the BBC, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Alan Colmes, the NY times, or your mothers(to include running with scissors). So what I am talking about? Simple. You have to be an idiot or as equally affected as this BBC guy to somehow miss the clear bias in this guy's entire demeanor, or not understand just how badly Coulter Assinated(still laughing at that) him. But how did this happen? In a country like England, where the left has been in charge for so long, an inevitable brain atrophy occurs when your thinking is never challenged. It was clearly present when I worked over there, as it was when I worked in Canada. It happens often in large organizations, public and private, in this country as well, as many professional "agents of change" here can attest. I bet this BBC guy worked all night on that zinger "does it get any better?" and she grabbed his "genius plan" and took his nuts with it. Why? Because the man clearly hasn't been up against somebody that can honestly represent a significant challenge to his position in a long time...maybe ever. BBC guy's hubris is the same disease that allowed the Republican Congress to think they could get away with all the scams they got caught pulling, same with Edwards, same with Clinton. All started believing their own BS. We will suffer the same fate if we remove reasonable debate from this country. Therefore, I hope Obama re-thinks his attacks on those that oppose him in the media, because if he is successful in silencing them(um Fairness Doctrine), then all we have to look forward to is legions of idiots like this BBC guy. That is "Change we don't, won't and will never believe in", and as Americans, per Patrick Henry and the ACLU, we have a duty to "fight"(quotes because I don't want to offend candy-ass sensibilities) against. This BBC guy is the product of what I would call, for lack of something better, intellectual incest, and that ain't good anytime, anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Required viewing material for this thread Annoying but necessary thread disclaimers, unfortunately : 1. This thread is about what the title said, ONLY! 2. This thread is not about Ann Coulter, whether Ann Coulter is a POA, Global Warming, Liberal media bias, the BBC, your mothers, women in general, my supposed dislike for women, my ability to know what women want, my ability to know what your mother wants , or any other distraction(the usual distortion/distraction people know who they are). 3. This thread is not about any extreme position taken by Ann Coulter, Micheal Moore, the BBC, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Alan Colmes, the NY times, or your mothers(to include running with scissors). First of all... What does the media really know?? Maybe there should be a stronger 3rd party. Any representative that changes sides MUST join the Independant Party for 4 years. Why not make the "middle of the road" representatives (Conservative Dems, Liberal Repubs) join the Independant Party. That would give us a unified right, middle and left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 The 'Liberal Hegemony' exchange pretty well summed it up for me. But while I understand your interpretation of this through the one-party prism, I don't understand why this clip *must* be about that. Surely seeing it in the context of liberal bias in the media is more natural - would you contend that such an interview could not have happened in the US four years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 That video and post only shows that you have no reasonable understanding of television. That dude is a lifelong controversial fruitcake celebrity commentator/journalist no different than O'Reilly or Olberman with the only difference being that "Paxo" has been spouting off for decades. It says zero about political parties. It speaks only about entertainment dollars for networks and personal/professional popularity by being intentionally loutish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 That video and post only shows that you have no reasonable understanding of television. A quality that I am proud of, given the current state of TV and TV people. You honestly believe I don't think that they are just as phony as the far-left? From where I am sitting one group is trying to out-phony the other. I would lump them in with televangelists, most lawyers, sports radio hosts(see the soon to be 30 page thread), pretty much every movie person right now, real estate agents, and most health care software providers. Basically the "overpay me for doing something that I tell you requires talent, but my results prove that I don't really have any" crowd. And yeah, unfortunately I have done extensive work for the Hollywood, once...had to do with line producing, so I am fully aware of just how ridiculous their very existence is...see: "my aura is bad today, so I can't get you those requirements you asked me for a month ago." = direct quote. That dude is a lifelong controversial fruitcake celebrity commentator/journalist no different than O'Reilly or Olberman with the only difference being that "Paxo" has been spouting off for decades. It says zero about political parties. It speaks only about entertainment dollars for networks and personal/professional popularity by being intentionally loutish. I didn't say that. I said this is what happens when your thinking never gets challenged...where the concept of introspection is completely foreign...when you live in a phony little world that you and your buddies have created that is not based on principles, but expediency and entitlement...where the rules only apply to other people, or we change them when we can't get out of them applying to us...and where you call people racists/bigots/idiots for providing reasonable challenges to your supposedly infallible world view. Hmmm. Isn't that the very description of this BBC guy, and the far-left??? You bet your azz it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 A quality that I am proud of, given the current state of TV and TV people. You honestly believe I don't think that they are just as phony as the far-left? From where I am sitting one group is trying to out-phony the other. I would lump them in with televangelists, most lawyers, sports radio hosts(see the soon to be 30 page thread), pretty much every movie person right now, real estate agents, and most health care software providers. Basically the "overpay me for doing something that I tell you requires talent, but my results prove that I don't really have any" crowd. And yeah, unfortunately I have done extensive work for the Hollywood, once...had to do with line producing, so I am fully aware of just how ridiculous their very existence is...see: "my aura is bad today, so I can't get you those requirements you asked me for a month ago." = direct quote. I didn't say that. I said this is what happens when your thinking never gets challenged...where the concept of introspection is completely foreign...when you live in a phony little world that you and your buddies have created that is not based on principles, but expediency and entitlement...where the rules only apply to other people, or we change them when we can't get out of them applying to us...and where you call people racists/bigots/idiots for providing reasonable challenges to your supposedly infallible world view. Hmmm. Isn't that the very description of this BBC guy, and the far-left??? You bet your azz it is. God, you spew an endless stream of sewage. How do you then explain the exact same person who is far right? That's right. They are no different. So obviously this is what happens when you're on the far right like yourself, right? So in other words, you're just like this BBC ****. You bet your azz you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Who in their right mind even likes 2 parties? Way to few parties in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Who in their right mind even likes 2 parties? Way to few parties in this country. Heard on Dennis Miller show the other day one of his "minions" calling in saying that the Dems want ONLY one party. Dennis' reply was no because then they wouldn't have anyone to rip on. Do they even listen to the Right Radio broadcasts? That's ALL they do!! Rip on Dems!!! Thrush Limburger, SeeAnn Hannity, Glenn Beck, Dennis Miller, Monica Crowley etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Well we're one step closer, as Joe the Plumber bolts. Actually the TIME article that is linked to this blog is pretty interesting. If the GnoP really is that committed to the far right, we won't be having them to kick around for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Well we're one step closer, as Joe the Plumber bolts. Actually the TIME article that is linked to this blog is pretty interesting. If the GnoP really is that committed to the far right, we won't be having them to kick around for awhile. It's laughable to a true conservative when we hear all the talking heads, like Colin Powell, et al, argue that the right is just too far right and they need to move more to the left so they can get back in the game. The right just ran the most LIBERAL conservative in the freaking world and lost. Do you really think the right is so stupid as to think that MORE John McCains is the answer? Really? Maybe we should have picked Arlen Specter as his running mate? Then we would have had Obama/Biden Lite. "Oh, well you should change your position on social issues like gay marriage!" Really, you mean we should be more socially conservative like Obama, who opposes gay marriage? Jeez, I swear it's amazing to me how absolutely idiotic some people can be sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Without Sarah Palin, John McCain might have actually won. She scared the hell out of a lot of people and make them question McCain's judgement. McCain is not what I'd call liberal but I always gave him credit for being willing to work in a bipartisan manner even when it pissed off his party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 God, you spew an endless stream of sewage. Yeah, yeah, Kelly. How's your aura doing today there Hollywood guy? How does it feel to know that watching people get kicked in the balls/step in crap(literally and figuratively) gets higher ratings than all but a very few shows that have "writers"? That would piss me off if that's what I did for a living, so I don't blame you for being bitter and lashing out at me. But I'm sure this is not due to the terrible product coming from Hollywood, because all Hollywood people are "so great to work with" and are so "good at what they do", just ask them, they say it all the time. How do you then explain the exact same person who is far right? That's right. They are no different. So obviously this is what happens when you're on the far right like yourself, right? So in other words, you're just like this BBC ****. You bet your azz you are. I don't explain the exact same person who is far-right, I excoriate them. I can't stand them. This country is now and will be in serious, long-term economic peril precisely because of many on the far-right. Their stupidity has encouraged forgetfulness on just how utterly retarded socialism is. Instead of focusing on winning the wars, instead of making sure Wall Street was holding up their end, instead of providing oversight and keeping Barney Frank's ridiculous agenda, the root cause for this economic crisis, in check, the far-right had the Republicans worrying about if Mike marries Steve and touches his pee-pee, or, the far-right was caught stealing and made everybody look bad. To be clear, I equally despise: selfish, undisciplined, lazy hippies who think business is "easy" and therefore they are entitled to what I have created from scratch, presume that their political belief makes them "smarter", but then get offended when people prove that patently isn't true, or have been given independent wealth, and now seek to "do good" for "the poor" when they don't know how to "do" anything, and end up screwing us all over when the plan they got out of a junk science or economics book doesn't work in the real world, - and - pompous, judgmental, religious zealots who contradict their own ethos by claiming to know what God/Jesus is thinking, seek to control others instead of focusing on their own grace, and permanently ostracize those who make mistakes/live differently than them, but will callously give them "charity", even though their own playbook tells them over and over, specifically, to forgive and genuinely help others, especially those they disagree with or whose behavior "goes against the Good book". A long time ago, one of these mfers lectured me for a whole week about my lack of penitence, etc. and then he screwed up, ignoring our warnings, and nearly killed me with a 3-ton pipe(I know, "if only", right?). As they are dragging me to a truck, he had the audacity to say that God had something to do with it. Consider: 1. From the S&L scandal in the 80's to today, of all the Republicans, it's almost always the far-right bible thumpers that keep getting caught with their hands in the till. Why? Because they think they are infallible, just like the far-left. 2. IF this country becomes economically weak, all the "gay marriage" social nonsense issues won't matter. In fact, I guarantee you that a whole lot less "Christian behavior" will be happening. So, in screwing up with the corruption in 2002-6, and letting the left get a complete majority, they might create the very conditions they are supposedly against. They are exactly like the far-left in that their stupid ideology ultimately furthers the things they are against...because their ideology is stupid, we all know it, and therefore we punish them for it. 3. Due to #2, Social Issues should always take a back seat to Economic Strength Issues. It's the dumbass far-right that keeps playing the perfect boogey men for the far-left people who want socialism in this country. Every time we might finally kill off socialism/Communism, or do something important like overhaul Medicare/SSI, some idiot far-right guy does something stupid, out comes the distraction, and it's back to square one. Ultimately it is the extremists on the far-left, and far-right, that are responsible for holding this country back. The blind willingness of millions in this country to follow their ideology in all things, instead of common sense, is the greatest issue facing us today. The good news is that centrists/libertarians like myself outnumber them 2-1...but that doesn't matter when the entire government is being run by one extreme or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Yeah, yeah, Kelly. How's your aura doing today there Hollywood guy? How does it feel to know that watching people get kicked in the balls/step in crap(literally and figuratively) gets higher ratings than all but a very few shows that have "writers"? That would piss me off if that's what I did for a living, so I don't blame you for being bitter and lashing out at me. But I'm sure this is not due to the terrible product coming from Hollywood, because all Hollywood people are "so great to work with" and are so "good at what they do", just ask them, they say it all the time. I don't explain the exact same person who is far-right, I excoriate them. I can't stand them. This country is now and will be in serious, long-term economic peril precisely because of many on the far-right. Their stupidity has encouraged forgetfulness on just how utterly retarded socialism is. Instead of focusing on winning the wars, instead of making sure Wall Street was holding up their end, instead of providing oversight and keeping Barney Frank's ridiculous agenda, the root cause for this economic crisis, in check, the far-right had the Republicans worrying about if Mike marries Steve and touches his pee-pee, or, the far-right was caught stealing and made everybody look bad. To be clear, I equally despise: selfish, undisciplined, lazy hippies who think business is "easy" and therefore they are entitled to what I have created from scratch, presume that their political belief makes them "smarter", but then get offended when people prove that patently isn't true, or have been given independent wealth, and now seek to "do good" for "the poor" when they don't know how to "do" anything, and end up screwing us all over when the plan they got out of a junk science or economics book doesn't work in the real world, - and - pompous, judgmental, religious zealots who contradict their own ethos by claiming to know what God/Jesus is thinking, seek to control others instead of focusing on their own grace, and permanently ostracize those who make mistakes/live differently than them, but will callously give them "charity", even though their own playbook tells them over and over, specifically, to forgive and genuinely help others, especially those they disagree with or whose behavior "goes against the Good book". A long time ago, one of these mfers lectured me for a whole week about my lack of penitence, etc. and then he screwed up, ignoring our warnings, and nearly killed me with a 3-ton pipe(I know, "if only", right?). As they are dragging me to a truck, he had the audacity to say that God had something to do with it. Consider: 1. From the S&L scandal in the 80's to today, of all the Republicans, it's almost always the far-right bible thumpers that keep getting caught with their hands in the till. Why? Because they think they are infallible, just like the far-left. 2. IF this country becomes economically weak, all the "gay marriage" social nonsense issues won't matter. In fact, I guarantee you that a whole lot less "Christian behavior" will be happening. So, in screwing up with the corruption in 2002-6, and letting the left get a complete majority, they might create the very conditions they are supposedly against. They are exactly like the far-left in that their stupid ideology ultimately furthers the things they are against...because their ideology is stupid, we all know it, and therefore we punish them for it. 3. Due to #2, Social Issues should always take a back seat to Economic Strength Issues. It's the dumbass far-right that keeps playing the perfect boogey men for the far-left people who want socialism in this country. Every time we might finally kill off socialism/Communism, or do something important like overhaul Medicare/SSI, some idiot far-right guy does something stupid, out comes the distraction, and it's back to square one. Ultimately it is the extremists on the far-left, and far-right, that are responsible for holding this country back. The blind willingness of millions in this country to follow their ideology in all things, instead of common sense, is the greatest issue facing us today. The good news is that centrists/libertarians like myself outnumber them 2-1...but that doesn't matter when the entire government is being run by one extreme or the other. Yet what you SAID to me was, and what I responded to, was blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Hmmm. Isn't that the very description of this BBC guy, and the far-left??? You bet your azz it is. For the record, I don't have much if any affection for ideologues on the far left or for Hollywood types either. I do, however, blame the public for watching the crap like reality shows more than the people that make them. They have consistently shown for decades that they will make anything the public watches. The public has consistently shown for decades that they will watch crap over quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I do, however, blame the public for watching the crap like reality shows more than the people that make them. They have consistently shown for decades that they will make anything the public watches. The public has consistently shown for decades that they will watch crap over quality. That is completely dead on. I find it ridiculously amusing that people are critical of the crap on TV - and I used to be one of them - until you realize that it's no secret the crap would be cut if people would simply stop watching it. I know the public has it in them, otherwise we'd be going into season 3 of "Caveman." But as long as there is an audience for crap, crap will be aired. Look, I think the Chia Pet is the most moronic thing ever manufactured, and remember first thinking "Who the hell is going to want that stupid thing?" Andyet, gzillions are sold every year. Because people love stupid scchiit. The content doesn't sell ad space; viewers do. Kill the viewers, kill the ads, kill the show. Well, except for Olberman, but Immelt needs him more than he needs the ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 That is completely dead on. I find it ridiculously amusing that people are critical of the crap on TV - and I used to be one of them - until you realize that it's no secret the crap would be cut if people would simply stop watching it. And it took you how long to realize this? People have been boycotting stuff they hate for as long as I can recall and I am sure it started way before I was born. It's a simple, proven effective concept. That is, for example, why there are streets named after Cesar Chavez all over the place. Fact is the American people want bread and circuses and that's what they've got. They just don't care enough to boycott this stuff - if they did it would be done. This is nothing new, it's happened throughout recorded history and probably outside that as well. I hope I don't need to tell you the end result if things don't change. I'm sure DCT will be happy to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 And it took you how long to realize this? People have been boycotting stuff they hate for as long as I can recall and I am sure it started way before I was born. It's a simple, proven effective concept. That is, for example, why there are streets named after Cesar Chavez all over the place. Fact is the American people want bread and circuses and that's what they've got. They just don't care enough to boycott this stuff - if they did it would be done. This is nothing new, it's happened throughout recorded history and probably outside that as well. I hope I don't need to tell you the end result if things don't change. I'm sure DCT will be happy to do that. I can honestly say I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Kill the viewers I'm on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Without Sarah Palin, John McCain might have actually won. She scared the hell out of a lot of people and make them question McCain's judgement. McCain is not what I'd call liberal but I always gave him credit for being willing to work in a bipartisan manner even when it pissed off his party. And Joe the gaffe machine scared the hell out of a lot of people too. (and still does) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Fact is the American people want bread and circuses and that's what they've got. They just don't care enough to boycott this stuff - if they did it would be done. This is nothing new, it's happened throughout recorded history and probably outside that as well. I hope I don't need to tell you the end result if things don't change. The Visigoth's run amok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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