Tcali Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 1. OJ 2.Jack Kemp 3.Doug Flutie 4.Al Cowlings 5.Terrell Owens 6.Paul McGuire 7.Jim Kelly 8.Bruce Smith 9.Tom Flores 10.Ahmad Rashad #1 isn't arguable....but after #5 its a crapshoot...
Delete This Account Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 t.o. edit: 1-10. everyone else is 11th. trust me. jw
H2o Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 1. OJ2.Jack Kemp 3.Doug Flutie 4.Al Cowlings 5.Terrell Owens 6.Paul McGuire 7.Jim Kelly 8.Bruce Smith 9.Tom Flores 10.Ahmad Rashad #1 isn't arguable....but after #5 its a crapshoot... Flutie and Owens ahead of Kelly, Smith, Reed, Thomas, Lofton, Talley, Bennett, Beebe, Hull, Tasker, and Conlan?
Tcali Posted May 4, 2009 Author Posted May 4, 2009 Flutie and Owens ahead of Kelly, Smith, Reed, Thomas, Lofton, Talley, Bennett, Beebe, Hull, Tasker, and Conlan? I said FAMOUS.....not the best players.
Tcali Posted May 4, 2009 Author Posted May 4, 2009 t.o. edit: 1-10. everyone else is 11th. trust me. jw OJ....known around the world ..definitely takes the top 10 spots.
Delete This Account Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 OJ....known around the world ..definitely takes the top 10 spots. wait until this season's over. t.o. will generate one story a day, starting day 1 of training camp through the start of next free agency. o.j. 11th. jw
BillsWatch Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 You didn't say players and in terms of most famous Bills Marv Levy would make any top 10 list. I have heard even non-football watchers quote him.
Buftex Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 1. OJ2.Jack Kemp 3.Doug Flutie 4.Al Cowlings 5.Terrell Owens 6.Paul McGuire 7.Jim Kelly 8.Bruce Smith 9.Tom Flores 10.Ahmad Rashad #1 isn't arguable....but after #5 its a crapshoot... Good list, but how did Tom Flores make the list, and ahead of Ahmad Rashad? If you mean "most famous" outside of the football world, I would go: 1- OJ Simpson 2- Ahmad Rashad 2- Jack Kemp 3- Dean Caine 4- Doug Flutie 5- Terrell Owens 6- Paul Maguire 7- Al Cowlings 8- Tom Demspey (everyone knows about the half footed kicker!) 9- Travis Henry 10- Chris Spielman 10a-Drew Bledose 11-Ko Simpson!
Major Mud Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 Good list, but how did Tom Flores make the list, and ahead of Ahmad Rashad? If you mean "most famous" outside of the football world, I would go: 1- OJ Simpson 2- Ahmad Rashad 3- Terrell Owens 4- Doug Flutie 5- Dean Caine 6- Paul Maguire 7- Tom Demspey (everyone knows about the half footed kicker!) 8- Travis Henry 9- Chris Spielman 10-Drew Bledose 11-Ko Simpson! I think tragically we need to add Kevin Everett to the list, he was on Oprah, and shes huge, so is her show.
Cru Jones Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 1. OJ2.Jack Kemp 3.Doug Flutie 4.Al Cowlings 5.Terrell Owens 6.Paul McGuire 7.Jim Kelly 8.Bruce Smith 9.Tom Flores 10.Ahmad Rashad #1 isn't arguable....but after #5 its a crapshoot... Famous at the current moment? at thier peak? or all-time? If more than 50% of the US population can name one congressman, 40% can remember that Kemp ran with Dole in '96, 30% can remember who the fvck Al Cowlings is, and 10% know what Flutie Flakes are I'd be very, very, surprised. I like McGuire but he doesnt have the clout of a Madden, Michaels, Costas, or even Summerall in the booth to be more famous than a HOF QB. I put Kelly #2 because at his peak Kelly was a pretty BIG deal. He was on guest star on General Hospital as a patient, gave Rob Schnieder an orgasm in an SNL skit, had a small role in the movie "Necessary Roughness" and he was the starting QB in the Superbowl 4 years in a row. Obviously "General Hospital" And "SNL" aren't what they were in the early 90's, and unless you were the "Isotoner" or "L.A. Gear" pitchman, national ad campaigns weren't there like they are now. So to be in a movie and on national TV other than MNF was a a pretty big deal back then. I think he was as famous as a QB with no rings playing in a small market could get.
TimGraham Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 1. OJ2.Jack Kemp 3.Doug Flutie 4.Al Cowlings 5.Terrell Owens 6.Paul McGuire 7.Jim Kelly 8.Bruce Smith 9.Tom Flores 10.Ahmad Rashad #1 isn't arguable....but after #5 its a crapshoot... This is a fun idea ... I would move Rashad way up (maybe to No. 4) and drop Cowlings a few spots. I don't know how many people would recognize Al Cowlings if they saw him. People would know Rashad in New York City, Los Angeles or Chicago. Tom Flores I can see. He was a Super Bowl-winning coach, known on both coasts. As for the other list, I don't think you can count Dean Cain. He went to camp, but he's not an official Bills alumnus because he never made a regular-season roster. What about Conrad Dobler? Monty Brown?
TimGraham Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 I put Kelly #2 because at his peak Kelly was a pretty BIG deal. He was on guest star on General Hospital as a patient, gave Rob Schnieder an orgasm in an SNL skit, had a small role in the movie "Necessary Roughness" and he was the starting QB in the Superbowl 4 years in a row. Jack Kemp ran for president and was the 1996 vice presidential nominee. I don't think Kelly was ever that big.
Buftex Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 This is a fun idea ... I would move Rashad way up (maybe to No. 4) and drop Cowlings a few spots. I don't know how many people would recognize Al Cowlings if they saw him. People would know Rashad in New York City, Los Angeles or Chicago. Tom Flores I can see. He was a Super Bowl-winning coach, known on both coasts. As for the other list, I don't think you can count Dean Cain. He went to camp, but he's not an official Bills alumnus because he never made a regular-season roster. What about Conrad Dobler? Monty Brown? Yeah, I realize that. But, Tcali didn't really define his requirements. To my knowledge, Cain never officially made any NFL roster, but any time you read something about him, it refers to him as a "former NFL player", and he has represented the Buffalo Bills in some NFL celebrity events over the years. Dobler is a good pick...he had numerous ad campaigns in his playing days... despite coaching a Super Bowl championship team, 30 years ago, I don't think Tom Lores is really a household name, outside the bay area.. hell, I bet Sam Wyche or Ed Rutkowski (regionally) would be more recognized.
Chandler#81 Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 OJ Jack Kemp T.O. Jim Kelly Paul Mcguire Ralph Wilson Marv Levy Conrad Dobler Bobby Moore Kevin Everette H.M.: Bruce, Cookie, Thurmal, Lofton Note: we're probably not the ones to ask this of..
KnightRider Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 1- OJ Simpson 2- Scott Norwood 3- Ahmad Rashad 4- Jack Kemp 5- Doug Flutie 6- Terrell Owens 7- Jim Kelly 8- Paul Maguire 9- Thurman Thomas 10-Bruce Smith A case for Norwood being #1. When you tell some you're a Bills fan, do you hear OJ's name or Norwood's?
Preston Ridlehuber Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 A few things; 1) If you can't spell the guys name, is he really that famous? 2) Bobby Moore? And people tell me I try to prove how smart I am 3) A few nominees I would think need being included a) Ron McDole - significant member of the over the hill gang b) Bubba Thornton - unfortunately made a name for himself as USA track coach c) Lou Saban - NFL films put him on the map with the Whitey, your're killing me That being said, in a country were less then 50% of the people know who their vice president is, I'd be surprised if more then 10% know anyone other then OJ and Jack Kemp Edit; forgot TO, but he still hasn't played for them.
billsfreak Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 1. OJ2.Jack Kemp 3.Doug Flutie 4.Al Cowlings 5.Terrell Owens 6.Paul McGuire 7.Jim Kelly 8.Bruce Smith 9.Tom Flores 10.Ahmad Rashad #1 isn't arguable....but after #5 its a crapshoot... Tom Flores? I know who he is, but he was much more famous for winning two Superbowls with the Raiders, and still most of the country doesn't even know who he is. That is like saying that Marty Schottenheimer is one of the most famous Bills ever. If you are talking about famous with the general public and not with the sporting world, I would make a list something like this: 1. O.J.-Obvious Reasons 2. Al Cowlings-see #1-White Bronco 3. Jack Kemp-Political Reasons 4. Scott Norwood-Wide Right-Everyone watches the Superbowl 5. T.O.-Everyone knows a good As*hole 6. Jim Kelly-Even non sports fans watch the Superbowl/Also several appearances for Krabbe's-i.e. Oprah Show 7. Paul McGuire-Been announcing games forever it seems 8. Doug Flutie-Doesn't everyone like him? 9. Kevin Everett-He was all over the News and TV Shows a few years ago. 10. Thurman Thomas-Lost his helmet during the Super Bowl-the general public doesn't watch the game for the game, but for dumb things like this. This is only a list based on the general public, if I was basing it on the sporting world, it would be all different except for #1.
Coach55 Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 How about Ray Bentley - he wrote the best selling Darby the Dinosaur children's series.
Delete This Account Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 Having given this a little bit of thought, from my perspective, here then are the top-10 Bills who will make the national wire most every time with a story about them. And yes, I'm humbly changing course and going with O.J. at the top. I base this on name recognition, and whether someone in Alabama or New Mexico or Alaska (pick a state, I'm not deriding people living there, it's just that they're far removed from Buffalo) would be interested in these people. OJ Simpson. Terrell Owens. Doug Flutie. Bruce Smith (he's one up on Kelly because he's got the sack record.) Jim Kelly. Jack Kemp (that's a tough one, as unfortunately he is in the forefront of everyone's mind. but based on fame, he did make headlines on and off the field for more than four decades.) Marv Levy. Scott Norwood. Kevin Everrett (will always be remembered as "that Bills player, who overcame paralysis.") Ralph Wilson. jw
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