LynchMob23 Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_12240444 Peter Ginsberg, the attorney representing the Williamses in their federal lawsuit against the NFL in St. Paul, said during a hearing last week that StarCaps were "freely distributed" in the Bills locker room and that "a number" of Buffalo players used StarCaps. In a letter sent Saturday to U.S. Magistrate Judge Jeanne Graham and made public Monday, Ginsberg wrote he has contacted NFL lawyers to serve subpoenas on the Bills and the subscription service that provided a hotline for players to call for information about supplements.
The Tomcat Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 In the Bills heyday of the 90's, when training camp was in Fredonia, I used to work for a company that rented them the golf cars during camp. I got to be in the locker room for the first couple days and remember being in Abe Abrowdowski (SP?) office and seeing bottles and bottles of supplements, protein shakes, amongst other things. I remember being shocked at the amount of different stuff and figured that was the norm for clubs. Nothing to add I guess, it was just an observation. I have no recollection of what they were specifically.
VJ91 Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_12240444 Who cares? Pat Williams is just looking for every excuse he can find to get around his positive drug test.
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 cant they just show the judge our win/loss record over the past 10 years and prove that those supplements obviously dont help?
stinky finger Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 In the Bills heyday of the 90's, when training camp was in Fredonia, I used to work for a company that rented them the golf cars during camp. I got to be in the locker room for the first couple days and remember being in Abe Abrowdowski (SP?) office and seeing bottles and bottles of supplements, protein shakes, amongst other things. I remember being shocked at the amount of different stuff and figured that was the norm for clubs. Nothing to add I guess, it was just an observation. If you delete this quickly you can avoid getting subpoened.
DrDawkinstein Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 question #2: was this when Rusty Jones was still with the team? or Meathead's replacement?
stuckincincy Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Who cares? Pat Williams is just looking for every excuse he can find to get around his positive drug test. Really. Reserve LB Darryl Blackstock manned up. PW should do the same. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seah...syndication=rss
stinky finger Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 cant they just show the judge our win/loss record over the past 10 years and prove that those supplements obviously dont help? That.......and they obviously make one retain an inordinate amount of water. Pat wasn't fat, just bloated.
Beerball Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Who cares? Pat Williams is just looking for every excuse he can find to get around his positive drug test. And Magnuson questioned whether the NFL violated public policy by not warning the NFLPA it learned through independent testing in November 2006 that Bumetanide existed in StarCaps. The product was apparently contaminated in Peru & the NFL 'knew' about it in 06 yet did nothing. Read the article and then draw conclusions. This coming from one who assumed they (the players) were complicit.
tjprime Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Remind me when Kevin Williams played for the Bills? Sounds to me like somebody is reaching. Not to mention, if these Starcaps were readily available and even distributed in the Bills locker room, why didn't any Bills players test positive??????
The Tomcat Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 question #2: was this when Rusty Jones was still with the team? or Meathead's replacement? Jones was still there at that time. I remember some sort of egg shaped chamber they used for, I think, body fat.
The Tomcat Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 If you delete this quickly you can avoid getting subpoened. I have no idea what they were. I could only testify to that. Could have been just GNC stuff....wait, isn't that were the star caps were bought?
Poeticlaw Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_12240444 In reading the article it was determined in 2006 to have the banned substance and Pats last season with us was 2004. He must be trying to get even with the Bills for not retaining him I remebr how upset he was when he left.
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