BB Fan 4 LIFE Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Here's a breakdown of upgrades/downgrades at our positions for 2009-2010. Upgrades Owens for Reed Rhodes for Omon Kelsay for Kelsay on 1st&2d down + Maybin on 3d Down. Downgrades: LT Walker for Peters RT Chambers for Walker LG Lavitrie ® for Dockery C Fowler for ® Wood/2d String Hangengartner (Rosenbagger) OLB Ellison for Angelo Crowell CB Youboty for Jabari Greer Even: Fine for Robert Royal After writing this, I threw up in my mouth a little. Did I miss anything or inaccurately characterize the change?
darkman Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 After writing this, I threw up in my mouth a little. Did I miss anything or inaccurately characterize the change? No comment other than to say you should go swish your mouth out.
Lurker Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 LG Lavitrie Wood ® for Dockery (push)C Hangengartner for ® Preston/Fowler (upgrade) OLB Ellison for Angelo Crowell (downgrade) CB Youboty for Jabari Greer (push)
ans4e64 Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Here's a breakdown of upgrades/downgrades at our positions for 2009-2010. Upgrades Owens for Reed Rhodes for Omon Kelsay for Kelsay on 1st&2d down + Maybin on 3d Down. Downgrades: LT Walker for Peters RT Chambers for Walker LG Lavitrie ® for Dockery C Fowler for ® Wood/2d String Hangengartner (Rosenbagger) OLB Ellison for Angelo Crowell CB Youboty for Jabari Greer Even: Fine for Robert Royal After writing this, I threw up in my mouth a little. Did I miss anything or inaccurately characterize the change? Walker for Peters is an upgrade. Wood for Dockery is an upgrade. Hangartner for Fowler/Preston is an upgrade. Crowell didn't even play last year. So it's not Ellison for Crowell. It's Ellison for Ellison, which is even. It's not Youboty for Greer. It's McKelvin for Greer. Fine/Nelson for Royal is an upgrade.
deep2evans Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 What a terrible post. You're wrong on nearly everything.
DanInUticaTampa Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Walker for Peters is an upgrade.Wood for Dockery is an upgrade. Hangartner for Fowler/Preston is an upgrade. Crowell didn't even play last year. So it's not Ellison for Crowell. It's Ellison for Ellison, which is even. It's not Youboty for Greer. It's McKelvin for Greer. Fine/Nelson for Royal is an upgrade. yes to all
Steely Dan Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Here's a breakdown of upgrades/downgrades at our positions for 2009-2010. Upgrades Owens for Reed Rhodes for Omon Kelsay for Kelsay on 1st&2d down + Maybin on 3d Down. Downgrades: LT Walker for Peters RT Chambers for Walker LG Lavitrie ® for Dockery C Fowler for ® Wood/2d String Hangengartner (Rosenbagger) OLB Ellison for Angelo Crowell CB Youboty for Jabari Greer Even: Fine for Robert Royal After writing this, I threw up in my mouth a little. Did I miss anything or inaccurately characterize the change? Youboty is great, when healthy. The others that are highlighted I think you're definitely wrong about. If you pissed him off my sisters cat would be better than Fowler. JMO
Alphadawg7 Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Did I miss anything or inaccurately characterize the change? maybe a chromosome or two?
VOR Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Walker for Peters is an upgrade.Wood for Dockery is an upgrade. Hangartner for Fowler/Preston is an upgrade. Crowell didn't even play last year. So it's not Ellison for Crowell. It's Ellison for Ellison, which is even. It's not Youboty for Greer. It's McKelvin for Greer. Fine/Nelson for Royal is an upgrade. I agree with all, except that I'd call Walker a push with Peters, compared to last year. And I'd say that if it truly were Youboty for Greer, it would be a push, but it's McKelvin for Greer.
BB Fan 4 LIFE Posted April 26, 2009 Author Posted April 26, 2009 Walker for Peters is an upgrade.Wood for Dockery is an upgrade. Hangartner for Fowler/Preston is an upgrade. Crowell didn't even play last year. So it's not Ellison for Crowell. It's Ellison for Ellison, which is even. It's not Youboty for Greer. It's McKelvin for Greer. Fine/Nelson for Royal is an upgrade. I don't think anyone who is not a Bills fan (which I am) would say Walker for Peters is an Upgrade. Dockery's loss is an upgrade...seriously? Wood is a rookie, you have not even seen him play in the NFL, you cant' seriously think he's an upgrade this season. Hangartener...it might be a push. Fine/Nelson (rookie) ...well fine was on our roster last year, and he played behind Royal, who Royally sucked. Nevertheless, he might be an upgrade after a year of experience, but we don't really know, and neither does the FO. It actually probably is Youboty for Greer, not McLovin'. McKelvin was going to be our 2d this year guy...
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Walker for Peters is an upgrade.Wood for Dockery is an upgrade. Hangartner for Fowler/Preston is an upgrade. Crowell didn't even play last year. So it's not Ellison for Crowell. It's Ellison for Ellison, which is even. It's not Youboty for Greer. It's McKelvin for Greer. Fine/Nelson for Royal is an upgrade. Unfortunately the Bills don't play in your fantasy world where Langston Walker is better than Jason Peters. Other than that your post rings of truth. I got the taste of throw up in my mouth after reading the original post in this thread. Dockery's loss is an upgrade...seriously? Wood is a rookie, you have not even seen him play in the NFL, you cant' seriously think he's an upgrade this season. In terms of immediate impact this might be true, but in terms of cost effectiveness and potential future impact, I think Wood is a big time upgrade over Dockery. By the end of this season I think Wood has established himself as a legit starter for years to come.
DanInUticaTampa Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Hangartener...it might be a push. he has played better in the nfl than our centers easy. how is this a push, let alone a downgrade?
Spiderweb Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 I agree with all, except that I'd call Walker a push with Peters, compared to last year. And I'd say that if it truly were Youboty for Greer, it would be a push, but it's McKelvin for Greer. Touboty showed that when healthy, he's a player, with far greater upside than Greer, Unfortunately, staying healthy hasn't been Youboty's strong suit so far. Fowler? Instant upgrade simply by "addition by subtraction", even if Harngartner or Wood perform poorly.
nucci Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Here's a breakdown of upgrades/downgrades at our positions for 2009-2010. Upgrades Owens for Reed Rhodes for Omon Kelsay for Kelsay on 1st&2d down + Maybin on 3d Down. Downgrades: LT Walker for Peters RT Chambers for Walker LG Lavitrie ® for Dockery C Fowler for ® Wood/2d String Hangengartner (Rosenbagger) OLB Ellison for Angelo Crowell CB Youboty for Jabari Greer Even: Fine for Robert Royal After writing this, I threw up in my mouth a little. Did I miss anything or inaccurately characterize the change? I think I would be an upgrade over Fowler/Preston.
VOR Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Touboty showed that when healthy, he's a player, with far greater upside than Greer, Unfortunately, staying healthy hasn't been Youboty's strong suit so far. Fowler? Instant upgrade simply by "addition by subtraction", even if Harngartner or Wood perform poorly. I was going to say Youboty is an upgrade over Greer, but thought that push would be more conservative and less controversial. And I agree that he's injury-prone, although most forget that Greer missed 6 games last year.
FLFan Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 My brain hurts from the idiocy of the original post. I am going to stop reading now.
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