John Adams Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 That kind of logic tells me you'd take a quarterback if he was the "best overall available" even if we had Peyton Manning and Jay Cutler on our roster. I say this late in the draft, you go with best overall player for your most needed position. There's still more value in a 4th round TE than a 6th round LB. I'd love to see Coffman at 121. He's got great size. Scouting Report http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2009ccoffman.php If the Bills had the luxury of 2 pro bowlers at one position, I would not pick that position. As far as I'm concerned, the Bills barely have any inked-in starters so yes, I'd take the best available player: RB, QB, LB, TE, whatever. Maybe the only position they don't need is DB. I would love a great TE but am not convinced that any TE this late will make a difference whatsoever unless he's a special teams player.
The Senator Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 James Casey Looks like an interesting prospect. Named 1st Team All-C-USA in 2008...Holds the Conference USA record for receptions in a season...Entered the draft after his sophomore season...Played seven different positions for the Owls (tight end, wide receiver, quarterback, defensive end, running back, fullback and safety) and also saw action on special teams as a punt returner...Earned Academic All American honors while carrying a 3.84 GPA with a triple major in Economics, Managerial Studies and Sport Management... 111 receptions and 13 TDs in 2008 keep yer fingers crossed
Maddog69 Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Titans just took Jared Cook. Maybe they pull the franchise tag from Bo Scaife and we can sign him ?
Magox Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Isn't this a freakishly deep TE class? It is deep to a certain extent. There are many of those hybrid TE/WR prospects, but not too many traditional TE prospects who can both run and block effectively. I think this is why you saw the first two TE's chosen fit the classic TE category, and up to now only 1 of the other TE prospects have been chosen.
John Adams Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 We could always draft this guy in the 4th round: He's got 4th round written all over him. The Bills do not have a 4th round pick.
Brandon Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 The Bills do not have a 4th round pick. They have pick 121.
Pete Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 The Bills do not have a 4th round pick. yes we do. Pick 121
extrahammer Posted April 26, 2009 Author Posted April 26, 2009 The Bills do not have a 4th round pick. #121 is 4th round.
Leonidas Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 I asked the same question before. ESPN says we don't, but I think they just didn't give us Philly's pick.
KOKBILLS Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Because Ingram has serious, serious medical red flags. I'll take my chances with Coffman that we can teach him to block. He had almost 1000 yards receiving last season. And I'm glad Cook is gone. Good luck with him, Jeff Fisher. He had a knee injury...He wanted to play at the end of last year but the Florida Coaches held him out...I'm not saying some Teams have not taken him off their Boards because of Medical concerns, but He ran and ran well at the Combine (4.68 at 245 lbs)...Then He went to the Florida Pro Day and blew up...Ingram Pro Day He's a year and a half removed from an ACL...Players come back from ACL's every day in the NFL...This Kid is a special, special Athlete...He's going to have to learn a Pro system...But he's determined and you can't teach what He's born with...
extrahammer Posted April 26, 2009 Author Posted April 26, 2009 So much for Chase Coffman... Casey is the next best guy. James Casey, Rice Height: 6-4. Weight: 243. Projected 40 Time: 4.66. Combine 40 Time: 4.78. Pro Day 40 Time: 4.79. Benchx225: 28. Vertical: 36. Projected Round (2009): 3-4. 2/22/09: James Casey had the second-best vertical for tight ends at the 2009 NFL Combine with 36 inches. His 40 was slower than expected, however. 2/21/09: James Casey tied Travis Beckum for most bench press reps at the 2009 NFL Combine with 28. 1/5/09: It appears as though Casey, 24, will declare as a true sophomore. He finished the 2008 campaign with 111 receptions, 1,329 yards and 13 touchdowns. 10/26/08: James Casey is having a great sophomore year. He has 67 catches, 803 yards and six touchdowns through just eight games. Because of his age, Casey must declare ASAP despite being just a true sophomore. 7/27/08: Let's see... James Casey had 46 catches for 585 yards and four touchdowns as a freshman despite not registering a single reception until Week 4. He runs a solid 40. So, why is he so low on this list? Well, he turns 25 in September 2009, so there's not much more room for growth.
basskik11 Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Well, Chase Coffman is gone. That broke my heart. I really wanted Buffalo to get him
michaelfromgermany Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 So much for Chase Coffman... ups....Beckum also gone...but 3 are there: Ingram, Casey and Nelson.... Lets hope one of them will survive the next 20 picks
BillsZubaz Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Wow. There has been a run on TightEnds in Round 3. Cook, Coffman, Beckum all gone! I'm not a fan of Ingram because he is not a strong blocker. Is our best option at this point to try to work out a deal for Scheffler and focus on OLB and depth with out final picks?
lets_go_bills Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Here's hoping James Casey lasts until our pick.
John Adams Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 #121 is 4th round. Thanks--that shows as a Philly pick on ESPN. I thought the Bills gave that pick up to get Levitre but it looks like they gave the first 4th rounder for him. I stand by my position: pick whoever you think is good. TE is a luxury and none of them this late will be very good.
JStranger76 Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Casey, Ingram and Nelson are the only worthy picks left IMO. 20 more picks, keep your fingers crossed............
BillsZubaz Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Casey is the next best guy. James Casey, Rice Height: 6-4. Weight: 243. Projected 40 Time: 4.66. Combine 40 Time: 4.78. Pro Day 40 Time: 4.79. Benchx225: 28. Vertical: 36. Projected Round (2009): 3-4. 2/22/09: James Casey had the second-best vertical for tight ends at the 2009 NFL Combine with 36 inches. His 40 was slower than expected, however. 2/21/09: James Casey tied Travis Beckum for most bench press reps at the 2009 NFL Combine with 28. 1/5/09: It appears as though Casey, 24, will declare as a true sophomore. He finished the 2008 campaign with 111 receptions, 1,329 yards and 13 touchdowns. 10/26/08: James Casey is having a great sophomore year. He has 67 catches, 803 yards and six touchdowns through just eight games. Because of his age, Casey must declare ASAP despite being just a true sophomore. 7/27/08: Let's see... James Casey had 46 catches for 585 yards and four touchdowns as a freshman despite not registering a single reception until Week 4. He runs a solid 40. So, why is he so low on this list? Well, he turns 25 in September 2009, so there's not much more room for growth. I would be OK with this guy from Rice*.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 At this point, why bother?, You currently have a player who was 4th round rookie last year (Derek Fine) and hurt most of the year and a guy with two years exp (Derek Schoman) who not sure what round he was drafted or by who. Neither of those players have been around long enough to know how good they might be. Unless you get lucky anyone you get at this point likely isn't going to be better than the current players, so I think you're better going with best player available and maybe pick up another FA tight end someplace rather than "waste" and I use that term loosely another pick. Usually after the draft there's a bunch of more signings, maybe you get one there or a training camp cut from soneone. I also would be fine with a trade with some team, but I see no need in drafting one at this point . You can't keep chasing draft picks every year and right away give up on whom you already have. That's the long term secret to failure! But wherever they may get another TE from, just make sure his first name is Derek!
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